Calling all FED fans, Whats feds top 5 most painful loses?

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  1. djokovic2008

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    1. vs Nadal 2008 wimbledon final 6-4, 6-4, 6-7(5), 6-7(8), 9-7
    2. vs Djokovic 2011 US Semi 6-7(7), 4-6, 6-3, 6-2, 7-5
    3. vs Djokovic 2010 US Semi 5-7, 6-1, 5-7, 6-2, 7-5
    4. vs Nadal 2008 roland garros 6-1, 6-3, 6-0
    5. vs Nalbandian World tour finals 2005 6-7(4), 6-7(11), 6-2, 6-1, 7-6(3)

    Other contenders was obviously this year vs djoker in the WTF or nalbandian in madrid and paris, is there any others I might be missing. I think the nadal loss in 08 RG was the most brutal of all.
     
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    Replace 1,2,3, and 5 with other FO finals and throw in that Aussie final against Nadal. That one sucked. Probably because I had stayed up until god knows how late to see it.

    Edit: I am not a dyed-in-the-wool Fed fan. Most of those loses were painful because Nadal was the one winning. Nalbandian is my all time favorite player so that match was just pure win.
     
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    Ah yes that one I forgot to put that on the list as that was epic but not sure if as painful as the top three.
     
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    Losing to Paella in the AO 2009 was awful. Also RG in 2006, 2011.

    2008 wasn't so bad because I knew Paella would moonball Federer off the court.
     
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    The first one is obviously against Nadal in AO 2009. Fed played better, won more points, was leading in all of the sets he lost except for the 5th one. If Nadal was playing the same as he did only had Roddick's face on, Fed would have likely finished the match in 3. Even Nadal looked lost at the end of the 4th set, he was spent.
     
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    Well the Wimbledon loss was pretty bad I guess, but I didn't see the match live and at the time I really liked Federer but I got a bit tired of him winning everything, so I didn't mind that much that Nadal won his first Wimbledon.

    The one that really ****ing hurt was the 2011 US Open loss to Djokovic. I was on vacation with my best friend and we were in the hotel room in the evening, when I suddenly remembered the US Open semi finals were that day. I turned on the TV and the 4th set was just ending. I saw the scoreline and was disappointed.. expecting Djokovic to finish Federer, since he won the last 2 sets. But then he got up 5-3! Wow, I did not see that coming! Federer was playing great and clearly better. When he got up 40-15 I was so happy and started explaining to my friend how unbelievably amazing this is, that Fed at this age is still beating Djokovic in 2011 mode (my friend doesn't watch tennis) and I was ecstatic myself. Then Djokovic hit that return winner, but for some reason it looked out by like half a meter on our crappy hotel tv. So I thought it was over, you know. Then I don't see them coming to net and I think: Oh is Djokovic challenging? Then I got what was really happening and I saw Djokovic doing that stupid thing to the crowd. (No really, at the time that seriously pissed me off.. I had an uncomfortable feeling that it would throw Federer's game off). And well, for the remaining games I just sat their.. watching Federer lose.. thinking to myself: No, this can't be happening, Federer will regain control of this match, it's still possible for him to win.
    And before you know it, the match is over. I felt pretty ****ty.

    I also felt bad after this years WTF loss to Djokovic since I was pretty sure Fed would take the 2nd set. Disappointing to see him lose to Djokovic in these ridiculous manners, very unfitting for such a legend.
     
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  7. The Moonballer

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    The 2011 USO loss to Djokovic was pretty horrific but at least he lost to a deserving player and not to Cheatdal.

    A great consolation was to see Piggy get smashed by Djokovic in the final, loved that
     
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    Federer vs Safin 2005 AO.

    5-7, 6-4, 5-7, 7-6(6), 9-7.
     
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  9. djokovic2008

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    Thats a new one why so painful other than the score do you feel fed deserved the win.
     
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  10. djokovic2008

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    After this loss the mental edge against fed was confirmed.
     
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    I'd take the Nalbandian match out because he was clearly hobbled, and should have lost in straight sets.

    Here's my list:

    1. vs. Del Potro US Open Final 2009
    2. vs. Nadal Wimbledon Final 2008
    3. vs. Djokovic US Open Semi-Final 2011
    4. vs. Nadal Australian Open Final 2009
    5. vs. Djokovic US Open Semi-Final 2010
     
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  12. Bobby Jr

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    The top two here should be the French Open final losses in 2006, 2007 and the next the 2009 Aussie Open and/or 2009 US Open - all of which, if won (and all other things being unchanged), would have seem him secure four majors in a row on each occasion. If it was both the 2009 matches he'd have the calendar slam.

    The 5th match I'd change would be the 2011 French Open final. To beat Nadal there would mean (assuming the above) another career slam secured, a late-in-his-career win over Nadal on clay and make his slam winning years an unbroken run of 10 years (as of this year).
     
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    Heh. Not to rub it in, but this was a very entertaining post :)
     
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    His loss to Nadal at AUSTRALIAN OPEN is BY FAAAAR the toughest loss for me. Really, by a million miles. At that point I realized he really was weak against Rafa. At that point I also saw the possibility of Nadal surpassing Federer as the true best player. Nadal's injuries and Fed's return in 2009 turned that around and kind of saved Fed's legacy as the best of this era. But at that moment, damn that loss hurt.

    Second's got to be Wimbledon 2008

    FO 11 final hurt bad too because I believed he could do it.

    Delpo 2009 USO

    Then there are a ton of matches like RG 06 and 07, Safin or Nalby in 05, or some match prior to his first major.
     
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    1. Wimbledon final 2008 vs. Nadal
    2. Aussie final 2009 vs. Nadal
    3. US final 2009 vs. Del Potro
    4. Aussie semi 2005 vs. Safin
    5. Olympics final 2012 vs. Murray

    The 2008 French wasn't painful as Fed knew he had no chance to win from the start.
     
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    1 - AO '09.
    Federer was destroying everyone, 2-0-0 in Delpo, clinched a 2-0 comeback against Berdych...

    2 - Master's Cup '05
    Damn Nalbandian.

    3 - W '08
    He almost did the impossible. Comeback in that match, saving championship point the way he did, and then lost the match in that forehand...

    4 & 5 - USO '10 & '11
    Come on. Two match points in both matches.
     
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    AO 2009
    Wimbly 2008
    USO 2009 (spent the majority of the match telling my then-girlfriend how great Fed was, and then he up and loses)
    FO 2006 (such a great start, and couldve won the 4th set TB. So much fail on his part in that match)
    FO 2011 (same thing, shouldve won both the first two sets, and did win the third)
     
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    Surprised no one has listed Rome 2006. A match Roger should have won IMO.

    that match IMO was very important. Would have been the first time Fed beat nadal on clay in a Best of 5 and it may have helped him sneak in a FO by beating Nadal just by the added belief it would have given him. I have always felt that Fed was good enough to beat Nadal atleast 1 out of the 5 times they played at the FO. A Rome victory in 06 might have been the mental edge he needed but alas, it was not to be.
     
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  19. djokovic2008

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    Come on you had no expectation of fed winning that one despite Nadal putting his worst performance ever in a RG final. That one should not hurt but its seems like everyone is going with AUS 09.
     
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    Oh yes! And he lost 2 CP's, was 4-1 up in the fifth...
     
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    The 5 set loss to Hewitt in the Davis cup semi after being up 2 sets to 0 and serving for the match at 5-3 in the 3rd , he blew it. This year he blew his Davis Cup chances again by losing to Isner on clay(and by losing the doubles). It would have been a perfect opportunity to try to win the Davis Cup this year with Nadal out injured.
     
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    He cried like a sobbing baby girl. How can it not be more painful ? ****** stole the last bastion of surface fED had a cling on, in their GS rivalry.............that I think was more painful for him than the first 2 you mentioned
     
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    I agree. Especially that 2009 AO final and the stupid crying in public.
     
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  26. beast of mallorca

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    Rome Masters Final of 2006, I think though was their best match. If he won that, Rafa might have lost the FO 2006and would not have the mental edge over Fed. That I think, in perspective, was the worst loss he had against Rafa.
     
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    AO 09 is the most painful by far. He should have won that match and he knew it. Hence the tears...he mentally folded when the match was his for the taking.
     
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    Your right that should replace RG 08 as the crying tipped the balance.
     
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    I think this thread is excellent in that it's very therapeutic for the OP, it calms him down to revel in Fed's tough losses which stops him from snapping and going all Gunther Parche on ol' Fed, it's good to keep his fragile mental psyche (which was even more damaged when Fed won Wimbledon this year, I'm guessing he barely recovered from that one) in check.

    On the topic I'd say 2008 Wimbledon F and 2009 AO F for the reasons already mentioned in this (therapeutic) thread.
     
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    1. Wimbledon 2008 final
    2. AO 2009 final
    3. USO 2009 final
    4. FO 2008 final
    5. That Djokovic match I think it was Miami where Fed was so furious and on a frustrating run he smashed his racket. I honestly thought he was going to give up on tennis at that point
     
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    AO 2009 was a lot worse than W 2008, because it was on hard court and Federer was outplaying Nadal for most of the match unlike at Wimbledon.
     
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    This is the correct list. FO losses to Nadal dont matter. it was to clay GOAT and not that he came close.

    Also so much was at stake in these majors. Fed would have been at 22 majors if he had won these matches.

    Before Fed's career is over, I would like for him to win a major Final or semis after being down by a match point.

    Out of the above, the Delpo loss was too painful. Fed was clearly the better player by miles for the first 4 sets. He knew that he was in a zone . He just played too casual at some critical juncture and lost a close tie breaker and shot himself in the foot.
     
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    2012 Olympics should be up there, you could see Fed was gutted since an oly gold will probably always be something missing from his accomplishments.
     
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    The 2009 AO Final is the worst for me. That was the last time I woke up in the morning thinking "Fed's gonna beat Nadal today!"

    Wimbledon 2007 feels like a million years ago...

    The Federer Tsonga match at last year's Wimbledon was pretty annoying too. I didn't see it, I was just watching the live scores on my phone during my lunchbreak at work, but I saw Fed was 2-0 up and thought "Nice! Let's see Fed beat Novak twice in a row, bring on the semi final!"

    Then I went for break in the afternoon... and did I get any sympathy from my coworkers when I came downstairs looking like I'd seen a ghost?

    "LOL! He's crying!"
    "Aww, Fed lost eh? Useless Swiss ****"
    "Oh boo hoo!"
    "We don't care about tennis Hood..."


    ...No, I did not.

    In hindsight... quite funny, though much easier to stomach since he won it this year.
     
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  35. DropShotArtist

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    Definitely AO2009. He absolutely should have won that match as he as the better player. But bad back and confidence cost him. Wimby 2008 also painful but Nadal was playing the best tennis of his life and Fed was not playing his best despite it going to 5. That match could have gone either way. AO2009 should have really been Fed's, therefore it is #1.
     
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    1. US Open 2011 vs Djokovic. I remember being on the edge of my seat, thinking the win was in his pocket with Federer serving for the match with 2 match point. Couldn't believe that lucky return winner Djokovic did and the faults on serve that would follow. Good thing Federer bounced back after this loss.

    2. US Open 2009 vs Del Potro. Great match, lackluster 1st serve for Federer cost him the championship imo.

    3. AO 2009 vs Nadal. Still can't believe he lost that match as he was clearly playing better than Nadal. I'm re-watching it for the 2nd time on ESPN classics and still can't figure out what went wrong.

    4. RG 2011 vs Nadal. After his performance against Djokovic in the Semi, I thought that finally, Federer would beat Nadal at RG. I thought he was going to win the 1st set, once he lost it, I knew he wouldn't pull it off. Shame cause I think the odds he was going to beat Nadal there were great that year.

    5. US Open 2010 vs Djokovic. See #1.
     
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  37. Phoenix1983

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    I agree that was one of their best matches.

    Fed in 2006 was very, very close to being the best player on all surfaces. I remember he shanked a forehand wide in the final set tiebreak of this match, he was very close to winning it.

    Even in the FO final that year he won the first set 6-1 and it looked like he might win. But then Nadal became the Nadal we all know and "love".
     
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    AO 2009 final vs Nadal - I rate this above Wimbledon just because at Wimbledon though Federer had a chance to win, I don't think he really deserved to. With the AO over the first 4 sets I thought Federer had played overall a bit better than nadal and had blown the 3rd set. But he had a big dip in the 5th and Nadal was ruthless.

    W 2008 final vs Nadal - Obviously ruined a chance to win 6 titles in a row and piled on the hurt.

    USO 2011 Semi final - In the 2010 semi I don't think Federer played that well, at least not consistantly. In 2011 though he was 2 sets up, serving for the match later on, with set points.. ouch..

    Rome 2006 Final vs Nadal - The only time over 5 sets that Federer outplayed Nadal on clay... and he still lost. Even though he twice beat him on clay, to play like this at Rome (much harder vs Nadal than Hamburg or madrid) over 5 sets, was his best peformance vs Nadal on clay. Possibly had a big impact on future matches.

    TMC 2005 final vs Nalbandian. All in all, Fed was coming back from an ankle injury, he only just won the first two sets (both tiebreaks) Nalbandian tore him apart in the next 2 before the dreaded 5th set tiebreak again. I wouldn't choose this match if it wasn't for the fact that it lost him the best season win loss record.
     
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  39. beast of mallorca

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    These are my picks as well, though not in the same order. Good job Towser. :)
     
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    It was incredibly frustrating as he was leading for a while and ending up losing the match because of a missed between-the-legs shot. I was pretty pissed.
     
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    thanks. I was in a hurry posting but I will edit my post to eleborate on the reasons.
     
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  42. winstonplum

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    No doubt it was AO 2009, but mainly because Federer saw the course of his career going off the rails with that loss. What had seemed for some time a foregone conclusion of him chasing down Sampras, now started looking not quite as likely. Stuck at 13 slams with Nadal defending at FO and Wimby, 14 quickly began to look distant on the horizon. That's what caused the majority of the tears, IMO. Little did we all know that divorce and knees would change everything very quickly.

    A not too distant second has got to be the USO 2011. In 2010, if you watched that match closely, you could see that Fed was basically taking sets off. He won the first set, which was tight, disappeared in the second, won the third (tight) and disappeared in the fourth. It seemed as though Fed knew that once he brought his A game, Nole didn't have the game or the mental strength to keep up. Double break point for the match in the fifth, per the script, but then those break saves. That changed everything. I firmly believe that that was the match that changed Nole's career more than anything else. More than the Davis Cup win in 2010, more than the AO victory in 2011, more than dominating Nadal on clay in 2011. Watch the absolute shock on his face when he wins the USO semi. I had never seen a player react to a humongous win with such absolute shock.

    For Fed to be back there one year later in the identical spot, but this time on his serve. And lose again . . . four total match points. Once Nole broke at 3-5, we knew it was over. Federer losing the the next three games just showed how demoralized and crushed he was.
     
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    I'll just add that I'd bet for Fed neither Wimbledon '08 or any of the RG losses are in his personal top ten. Maybe for his fans, but I don't think he was emotionally or psychologically crushed by any of those losses--the RGs because he probably didn't really think he had a good shot to win, with maybe the exception of '06, and Wimby '08 because how crushed can you be when you've won a tournament the previous 5 years, the last two against the dude who just beat you that day. I'm sure Federer felt he'd be right back in the hunt for Wimbledon the following year.
     
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    I agree. Nadal clearly thought so too, given his words to Fed then.

    Interesting points about the semi vs. Novak in USO 2010.

    Very much disagree there. I'm sure Wimbledon 2008 is right there. And the RG finals (especially 2006) as well.

    He had dominance there, and he lost it.
     
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    How would you know what my expectations were? I felt that since Fed had already won the FO, he'd gotten that monkey off of his back, and would be able to play without pressure and freely. He started off that way, and dictated the match until 5-2.. then had set point. Then it dramatically changed.
     
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    I honestly think I agree with you. All kinds of things changed after that match. He was favored in all of their meetings up to that match, and was finally NOT favored at the FO later that year..

    If fed wins that match, he goes into RG on a winning streak, including over his most dangerous opponent, and who knows what happens.

    But it was not to be :(
     
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    1. 2008 Wimbledon Final....Didn't play up to par in sets 1 and 2, and the 5th set failed on plenty of 30 all points against Nadal.

    2. 2009 Australian Final.....Nadal was exhausted and was not at his highest level because of Verdasco, Lost the lead in the first set, and lost numerous setpoints in the 3rd set. Should have won this in straights but lost in 5.

    3.2006 Rome Final.....had a matchpoint and squandered it....maybe a crucial match that could have changed his belief on Clay.

    4. 2010 US Open Semifinal.....had matchpoints, may have prevented 2011 Novak dominance.

    5. 2011 US Open Semifinal.....had a decent chance to beat Nadal in this US Open compared to 2010. Novak was total crap throughout the match....and still wins it.
     
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    I can agree with those four but the fifth has got to be the french open 2006. Not only me but also many many other thought that it would be the time he'd win vs nadal. And honestly, this was one of the matches vs nadal where I thought federer would be "generally" the better player but has a psychological problem, something mental vs nadal. maybe it was the rome loss, I have no idea. But I'm sure Federer knows how he gave away the FO when he actually would've been good enough to win the tournament. And - not to forget - most likely THE grand slam!

    TMC 2005 final - well, it was a hard final. I can see why it would be statistically nice (winning streak, best year ever by a tennis player). Though I don't think federer gave it that much importance, he didn't seem to be fit and prepared as the rest of the year.

    Neither do I think he regrets the USO 09 loss too much. Del Potro was on fire and well, everyone was speaking about him anyway because of THE SHOT, he had his career grand slam, a huge comeback in 2009...in fact, this probably is the least painful GS final loss by federer.

    the only other painful loss I could see in the top5 would be that semifinal against safin. but again, he lost against someone who had almost a once-in-a-lifetime form in the tournament. it was very high quality tennis and it felt like the final. I think there are more people who remember that rather match than safin's opponent in the final.
     
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  49. Towser83

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    I can see the RG final true, but at that time it was only one loss in a slam final, it was his first RG final. There was still the sense that he could beat Nadal there, it wasn't so crushing even though he did let a good start turn against him and missed a chance to push it to 5 sets
     
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    2009 AO final without a shadow of a doubt. That match killed me for weeks and still has its mark today.

    The 2008 Wimbledon final was kind of expected, at the time I thought Fed won't be winning Wimbledon forever, with a mix of his poor form and Nadal being in excellent shape it was bound to happen that year. Obviously felt dissapointed after the match but it wasn't as long-term as the first one.

    2012 AO vs Nadal - once again Fed has the upper hand (up a set and a break) but finds a way to screw up and lose the next 3 sets.

    2011 US Open semi vs Djokovic - I was already celebrating when that happened...
     
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