Can Djokovic deny Federer the 286 wk record?

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  1. psYcon

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    As of Monday, Federer will have 11075 points and Novak just 75 points less at 11000.

    There are ATP Challenger events available from 80 points to 125 points - if Djokovic acts stubborn (or let's say if Pete pays him) he can play and easily win an 80 point Challenger tournament, he can climb back to #1 spot before Roger can break Sampras' 286 wk record.

    Is this even a possibility in this limited timeframe?
     
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  2. BigServer1

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    I think Djokovic is much more concerned with the Olympics and the Summer hard courts than he is with regaining the #1 ranking. Also, if he won an 80 point event and overtook Fed, but screwed himself for the next two months, it's all but guaranteed that Federer would get #1 back, since Djokovic is defending 3500+ points between Toronto, Cincy and the US Open, and Fed's defending less than half of that.

    Just my take, but I doubt Djokovic plays a challenger.
     
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  3. tudwell

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    I don't know what the cut-off for late entries are, but I don't think Djokovic cares about Sampras' record at all, so why would he do it? He wants to rest and to practice and to get ready for the Olympics. There is absolutely no point in him wasting time and energy playing a challenger event to benefit the legacy of a different player.
     
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  4. MichaelNadal

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    It would be ridiculous if he did that.
     
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  5. DoubleDeuce

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    No,

    He next plays Olympics which is more than 2 weeks away and by that time record is broken, probably for last time.
     
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  6. TMF

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    Maybe he will play if Sampras get on his knee and beg him.
     
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  7. Lawn Tennis

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    Even if he did, it would take a week to reflect the points. In other words, Federer has tied Pete regardless of what Djokovic does. Lastly, Federer could play the same challenger event to prevent it from having any effect. Neither Djokovic nor Federer would ever do it anyhow.
     
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  8. Raz11

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    What does Djokovic have to gain from denying Federer's record? I think he is more concerned about his own performance at the big events than Federer's record at number 1. He may win something small as you say and take back the #1 ranking but at the cost of reducing his chances of winning the OG or US is silly.
     
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  9. MG1

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    Whole tennis world would laugh at him if he does any such thing!!
     
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  10. jamesblakefan#1

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    Even if Djoker were to win a challenger, it wouldn't reflect on his rankings since it isn't among his best 18 results.

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Novak-Djokovic.aspx?t=rb

    Those 0 pointers for withdrawing from Beijing, Washington, and Shanghai really stand out now.

    Also, the trump card - top 10 players cannot play Challenger events.
     
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  11. psYcon

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    just imagine viewing a Challenger draw next week, with low ranked familiar names like Kosakowski, Steve Johnson, Lester Cook and .... BOOM ... Novak Djokovic #1 seed! The tournament director would be like WTF! :confused:
     
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    Is the OP serious?
     
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  13. JustBob

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    I don't even think he would be eligible.

    But Nadal would be: :D

    "An exception happens during the second week of a Grand Slam tournament, when top-100 players who have already lost in the Slam try to take a wild card entry into a Challenger tournament beginning that second week."
     
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  14. cork_screw

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    He would not do that. That's something YOU would do, not him.
     
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    It says during the 2nd week, so Nadal would have had to have done it this week, not next week.
     
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  16. JustBob

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    I know, I was joking.
     
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  17. glazkovss

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    There are 4 world tour tournaments this week, why are you talking about challengers? This thread is nonsense, anyway:)
     
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    I hope he does, then he'll lose early in the Olympics.
     
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    Haha, Djokovic would look so silly if he did something like this
     
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    This has got to be the most retarded theory I have ever heard, no offense, but Djoker has better things to do than try and deny Fed the record.
     
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    He does have space for 1 more 250 event, so that'll be a more realistic option for him. Nevertheless, he'll look like an absolute ****** if he enters a clay event before the Olympics on grass just to deny Federer his record (only to potentially lose the ranking a few weeks later anyway).
     
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    I cant imagine the flow of hate on this forum if Djoko does it...
     
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    Haha....imagine a challenger final between Djokovic and Federer, to decide the number one ranking!! lol..
     
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    Why would he do that? It would honestly be a jerk move to enter a challenger, both to the other players and to Federer because it would be for the sole purpose of denying him a record. Secondly, Fed could also play a challenger if Djokovic decided to, so he could still stay ahead. Finally, why would either of them want to tire themselves out more before the Olympics?
     
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    Relax folks, ...
    To answer the question: yes he can, but he most certainly won't.
     
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  27. PrinceMoron

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    He might meet Rosol if he did.
     
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    people, READ the thread before answering.

     
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  29. sbengte

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    SOG would never play a cheap trick like that against his father.
     
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  30. PCXL-Fan

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    I might guess Novak would get a harder workout through his regular training regime than beating a bunch of guys ranked ~150 to ~300.
     
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    How could he, idiots! He is not in any draw this week, those were made on Friday. Next Monday the record is Rog's.
     
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  32. PrinceMoron

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    Also, the trump card - top 10 players cannot play Challenger events.

    Just a matter of time then.
     
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    Just imagine, out of nowehere suddenly the world's no. 1 and no.2 both arrives on a fking challenger event... lol wtf.
     
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  34. sbengte

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    LOL :D

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  35. psYcon

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    It would be the biggest anti-climax in the history of tennis tournaments.
     
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    fanboy shot at sampras

    Like when you get on your knees to do that thing you like to do, fanboy?

    um, nice grammer there spanky....
     
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  37. TheFifthSet

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    haha that would be petty but absolutely hilarious
     
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    Top 10 players can't participate in challengers as far as I know.
     
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  39. endbegin

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    He'd do it only to lose to Rosol in the second round. :)
     
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    What can Djokovic possibly have better to do than this?

    The whole point of being a pro tennis player is to deny other pro tennis players of success.

    Djokovic should be doing all in his power to deny Federer statistics that he can fall back on to argue that he is the greatest of all time.
     
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    You're really misguided if you think the whole point of being a tennis player is to deny others of success, and not strive for what will maximize your own success. Playing a challenger or 250 would probably throw off Novak's entire preparation for the Olympics and in the long run could cause him to lose the #1 rank again even if he got it back.
     
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  42. PCXL-Fan

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    If a player dies is he automatically removed from the ranking system at the end off the week? Is there an atp rule on deceased players?

    How strong is the greek mafia presence in London? Large is the *********** presence in London?

    To be on the safe side police need to start monitoring Sampras's activities for the next 2 weeks.
     
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  43. jamesblakefan#1

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    Why would you even ask that question? :confused:
     
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  44. PCXL-Fan

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    Just an extremely concerned Federer fan. Seriously, who knows how far Samprastards or Sampras would go to protect his few remaining records.
     
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