Can I reuse the strings????

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  1. PointConstructor

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    Hello everyone,
    Needed a little help from all you experts.I got one of my 18x20 rackets strung up
    with Volkl Cyclone 18 but the stringer strung it too tight at 57 lbs instead of 52 I asked.As a result racket had little power,comfort and pocketing.
    I have managed to take out the strings with loss of only 3-4 inches so length is no problem.Played only a few minutes with it.
    Is that string good enough now to string my 16x19 racket(Dunlop Biomimetic 200 lite to be precise) and at what tension?
    Thanks in advance.
     
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  2. huba01

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    sure mate, why not ? We all do that
     
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  3. Shaun

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    Yep you can reuse it
     
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  4. Egoista

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    ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
     
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  5. Roger Wawrinka

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    String that has already been strung, and stretched is not that good to use. You can there just won't be very much playability.
     
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  6. Shaun

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    Yep if you want you can do it. They can still be usable but won't be as good as they were on the first string job. I've never did my strings the second time. They were the wrong tension but I just managed to adjust to it. Just try to get another racquet and start hitting on the sweet spot with the other racquet frame. It should loosen up the strings and the tension should drop.
     
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  7. mad dog1

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    Assuming the string is long enough, yes, you can do it. Since the string has been tensioned previously, when you reuse, drop the tension a few pounds from your usual tension as the string will lose less tension in the racquet this time.
     
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  8. Muppet

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    Keep in mind that you lost about 4' for two tie offs or 6' for four tie offs on the first job. Also, you will need to have enough slack for tying off on the second racquet.

    Why can't you get a fresh length of string from the stringer who messed up?
     
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  9. Shaun

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    Shouldn't have taken them out in the first place.
     
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  10. Imago

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    The sure thing is to use it in a hybrid string job.
     
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  11. brokenRPM

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    i don't think it's a good idea if you plan to use the racket and string in the long wrong because a used string strung at 52 would feel different from a new string strung at 52.

    in other words, you would have to waste another set of strings to find the tension you really like.
     
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  12. mad dog1

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    or he could string the used string 2#s lower and not waste another set of strings. :)
     
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  13. Bhairava

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    I have done it. Two 1 piece,8 hour used TB 17 string into one new two-piece stringjob. I used the horizontal part with little vertical part of the stringjobs because the central, vertical part is heavily notched.
    I made the error to use the same tension; the string do not lose tension because it's already used, so it was a bit stiff. I would try 2 kilos less then my usual tension. Beside of that, the pace is ok, the spin is less than fresh stringjob.
    So, at the end I can advice you to do it as experiment and with a good-strung racquet to backup if you will not like it.
    I think multi could work better with restringing(if not seriously damaged)
     
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  14. unorthodox stringing

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    Yes, it can be done. I have tried re-using gut, multi, poly and syn gut with good success. During blind tests, no one even noticed the re-used strings! And neither did the performance dip.

    The key, as Mad_dog1 pointed above, is to use a lower tension.

    Length should be enough since you removed from a 18x20 and is now using it in a 16x19.

    I have not used Volkl Cyclone 18 before, but I'd probably try it re-done at about 40-44 lbs. Since your stringer got it wrong, you should ask him to re-do this for you free. :)
     
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  15. pkshooter

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    NO YOU CANNOT.
    Why these people say you can is disturbing, you will not have enough string to string again, it doesn't matter the patern, you would need a ten +inch frame difference. If you ha a one peice you might hypothetically employ it in a hybrid, but really how frugal are you? My two cents is dont...
     
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  16. Tamiya

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    if its not DIY, I'd like to see OP convincing a commercial stringer to reuse old string... :)
     
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  17. Tennis Fanatic 070

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    Volkl cyclone is so cheap, I pay less than 5 dollars a set, why the hell would you reuse it? Like some other poster already said, your stringer messed up so he should fix it for free.
     
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  18. jim e

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    I cannot understand why you removed the string in the 1st place. If you asked for 52lbs. and received 57 lbs. , then why all the trouble? You should have just returned the racqut to stringer and tell him to restring at tension asked for.And as others pointed out the string is cheap, as you are paying more for labor. The string loses characteristics like resiliency once installed as most players want a consistant job from a stringer and consistancy is out the window attempting to reuse a string, yet alone a cheap one.
     
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  19. BLX_Andy

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    I wouldn't recommend doing it. You'll lose the playability you had when they were first put in. Might as well hit against the wall and see how they soften up.
     
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  20. SFrazeur

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    Sure you can, abso-fricking-lutly!

    I can also put a large pot over my head, beat it with two meat mallets all while dancing an irish jig and singing a rendition of Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy"--but that doesn't mean it's a good idea.
     
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  21. PointConstructor

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    Thanks everyone for chipping in with your advice.
    Let me clarify a couple of things,I am from India and stringing is really cheap here,only $1.50 or so and Volkl cyclones cost me at around $10 here so cost analysis is rather simple.
    But my question is not string specific(I mentioned the string for detail only) but a general one,can a relatively unused mid range to premium range co-poly be restrung to produce decent performance and if yes,how much loser should one string it to account for the earlier stretching?
    I am anyway going to string my Bio 200 Lite considering it is rather cheap but your opinions are very welcome.
    I also try to post my findings about reused string.
    Thanks again for trying to help me out.
     
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  22. unorthodox stringing

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  23. ChicagoJack

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    It's accurate that the TWU studies indicate that strings don't lose much elasticity or resiliency with repeated impacts. It is also real mind bender that string that has suffered significant tension loss, will behave very much like fresh string provided it is simply re-tensioned. That's ground breaking news, in and of itself, but that's only half the story.

    The folks who have the perception that poly gets less comfortable with use aren't imagining things. The explanation provided by the March - April 2013 studies is that two things are occurring. Tension loss and increasing friction due to notching and abrasion. Tension loss makes the stringbed more comfy, and notching/abrasion increases discomfort. That's because when the mains don't slide, dwell time is reduced, this increases impact shock. One or the other will eventually win out and dominate the feel of the string bed.

    So.. while re-tensioning the same string might not sound as wacky as it once did, you'd still have the issue of abrasion and notching. Just an educated guess here, but you'd likely experience decreased comfort. Re-stringing gut isn't a good idea, and pretty hard to execute, but let's imagine the reference tension on a bed of poly is 50, and the string bed drops to 35 getting notched on the way down. You re-string back to 50 with the same old notched string. Those two factors will increase string bed stiffness in both planes.

    -Jack
     
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  24. treo

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    I prestretch my poly and have reused poly mains and they play fine. If you reuse notched mains, the odds are that the old notches will not be a factor and you will be notching in new spots. There is a slight chance that some crosses will line up with the old notches but chances are slim. The old notches probably make the strings play like a thinner gauge.

    Reusing mains on my Prince Speedport Black is easy. I don't tie or cut off the end. I use the full 20 ft and wrap the excess string through the ports on the bridge a couple of times each, secure with two zip ties, run the string down the throat and wrap the rest above the grip and cover it up with black tape.

    The friction from old strings can be fixed by lubricating the strings. I apply a thick silicone oil and let it sit when I'm not playing. I wipe it off before playing so the balls don't get greasy. The oil seems to penetrate my syn gut crosses and the mains will slide again.
     
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  25. spinovic

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    Why would re-stringing gut be a worse idea than any other string? The notching?

    I get why it might be hard to pull off. It seems like it would be more vulnerable to breaking having been strung once already.

    This is all new to me. I would like to try it just to see how it feels and plays.

    That said, all my TFights are the same size and pattern, so the best I could do is possibly hybrid a half set of re-used strings.

    Maybe down the road I can re-use a set from my Blade Team (104, 18x19) in one of my smaller frames. It might have enough extra to do one of the TFights. It is an interesting idea to me. Think of it as a very thorough, extended pre-stretch.
     
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  26. AR15

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    Rather than restringing, your stretched string, to get back to the desired tension, why not use string savers instead?

    Once the string seems to play like it needs restringing, it seems you could add string savers to regain tension. You might be able to apply string savers over a third of the string bed at the first sign of tension loss. Then you could play until you the strings stretch again. and, assuming the string hasn't broken, you could add even more strings savers to rejuvenate the string bed again.

    Just a thought.
     
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  27. AR15

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    I actually tried this last night. The full poly in both of my rackets felt dead and the strings were starting to move, so I was about to restring both rackets. But, instead of restringing, I decided to add string savers, to one of the rackets, to see if they would increase the tension enough to where the string felt good again. I added about a dozen string savers to the sweet spot area of the racket and I could tell the string tension was increasing as I added them.

    I played with both rackets last night, and the one with the string savers was a definite improvement. The tension felt good again although I have no idea what it is now. I regained the control I felt I had lost before I added the savers. I will keep playing until the strings feel dead again, and then I will add more strings savers and see if they rejuvenate the string bed again.
     
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  28. italia

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    Shooter is right. Trash them out. You can't re-use it.
    Even if you manage to string it somehow, you will broke it after several sets.
     
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