Can Nicolas Mahut beat Wawrinka for his first ATP title?

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  1. JRAJ1988

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    As a qualifier he's got to the final vs the 2nd seed and inform Wawrinka.
     
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  2. Mainad

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    It would be great if he did. Mahut has excellent grasscourt credentials. He's made it now to 3 grasscourt finals (2007 Queens, 2007 Newport and 2013 s'Hertogenbosch) but not yet won any. He's been in the longest grasscourt match in tennis history (against Isner at 2010 Wimbledon) and he beat Murray in the 2nd round of Queens last year!

    I'm hoping he will finally get lucky tomorrow. It will be hard having to face a tough player like Wawrinka who's been on a bit of a roll this year and is now a top 10 player again but, if anyone deserves a bit of luck, its Mahut and he has the game to do it!
     
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    He has a great grass court game, hope he does it and the points from the final should jump him up the rankings.
     
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  4. Max G.

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    He can do it! Should be good. Wish I could see it.
     
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    Mahut will show how real big mens serve and volley on legit grass looks like. none of that girly-men two hander back board nonsense. In fact, I consider this and Halle the two legit grass court slams.

    Either way, tennis wins.
     
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    Definitely going to watch this
     
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    He's never won a title? He deserves one. Would be nice for the loser of the marathon match to win a title at least.
    Benneteau should win one too by the way, but for some reason he only plays good against Federer
     
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    I think that's outstanding. Nicolas is a gentleman and a fighter, and I wish him extremely well.

    (At least he can give all his energy; he won't have to run into John Isner unless they both make the semis, since he's in Andy Murray's quarter and John is in Rafa's. :) )
     
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    Not at the ATP world tour level. He might have some challenger/satellite/futures titles, and/or some junior level titles.
     
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    63 31 Mahut
    I hope so, great S-V player
     
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    6-3, 5-4 serves for the match. Merely one game away...
     
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    It's done with a last serve winner, 6-3, 6-4!
     
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  13. W.P. Mayhew

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    Mahut served it out!

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    Congratulations to Nicolas Mahut for winning a legit grass court major. :) No need for Wimbledon mens event to be held anymore ever since people started winning it from the backboards.
     
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    And Stan the Gentleman made it happen ;)
     
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    Mahut's wishlist:
    -Win a Doubles Slams (hence the tears after RG);
    -Win a Singles Title on the "big" tour;
    -Win Davis Cup;
    -Be back in the top 100.

    One crossed, one on the way (he'll jump from 240 to 127).

    Say, Stan seems more than happy for Nicolas. Did the Gentleman let it happen?
     
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    Fantastic! Congrats to Third-Time-Lucky Mahut on winning a long overdue first title and on grass too, his best surface! It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy! :)
     
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  18. vive le beau jeu !

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    great for mahut ! :)
    1st title at 31, playing his 3rd grass final, being ranked #240 and having gone through the qualifications...

    if we doubted about it... now we're sure he really deserves his wimbledon WC ! ;)
     
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    Congratulations to Mahut. Didn't watch the match so I don't how much "effort" Wawrinka put in here;) Anyway, I don't care, glad he won the title.

    In the Eastbourne final there surely isn't anything given away, both are trying pretty hard. Rooting for Lopez
     
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    Congratulations to Mahut, a deserved champion, especially after his tears after the FO doubles loss. Although it did seem as though Stan was barely out of 3rd gear for most of the match.
     
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    Happy for Mahut. He deserves the win.
    Vamos Nicolas !!
     
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    Congrats to Mahut. Well deserved first title !
     
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    Nice to see this.
     
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    Wawrinka is a clown.
     
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  25. Mainad

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    Nicolas Mahut is the lowest ranked player (#240) to win a maiden ATP title since Kei Nishikori (#244) won Delray Beach back in 2008!
     
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    That's pretty impressive, I can't remember who was the oldest to win a first title...I think Raemon Sluiter was the lowest ranked when he got to the final in 2009 in Holland.
     
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  27. Mainad

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    Mahut may actually be the oldest as well, at least in the Open Era. I can't think off the top of my head who was older. I wonder if anybody else knows?
     
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    I believe Lleyton Hewitt still has the record for being the lowest ranked tennis player to win a ATP main tour title, at #550 when winning 1998 Adelaide.
     
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  29. vive le beau jeu !

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    i've got wayne arthurs winning his 1st title at 33 (almost 34) at scottsdale in 2005... can somebody beat that ? ;)

    and yes, hewitt is still the lowest-ranked winner of an ATP tournament with his 1998 adelaide (#550).
     
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  30. vive le beau jeu !

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    lowest-ranked tournament winners ?

    would be interesting to make a list of the lowest-ranked players to win an ATP tournaments. i think i've got the top2:
    #550 hewitt, adelaide 1998
    #453 doumbia, lyon 1988


    but then ?...
    does anybody know what was krickstein's ranking when he won his 1st title at 16 in tel aviv in 1983 ?

    will the following ones be in the 'top10' ?...
    #282 doumbia (again !!!), bordeaux 1995
    #258 lapentti, bogota 1995 (same week as the previous one !)
    #244 nishikori, delray beach 2008
    #240 mahut, 's-hertogenbosch 2013


    doumbia, from senegal, is really amazing... only won 24 ATP-level career matches, but won 2 tournaments... each time as a qualifier !
     
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  31. vive le beau jeu !

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    found the following list on the net:
    from: http://plazbovo.free.fr/CHRONOPEN-records.html#exploits

    (should have thought on gonzo, haas and cash... damned memory !)

    besides only starting in 1985, it also seems incomplete as doumbia's lyon title is missing, but we're still getting closer to having an exhaustive list. :)

    Nb: this kelly jones guy managed to successfully defend his singapore title the following year... i think he's the only one in the list to do so !
    (even if hewitt was close)
     
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    Mahut was the 1999 Wimbledon juniors champion. Never lived up to the expectations...largely because of injuries. He's been dragging around a bad knee for quite a while now, but he's got enough talent to compensate. Excellent slice, dangerous drive backhand, and excellent volleys. He used to have a much bigger serve, but the injuries have taken big time MPHs off. When he played Roddick in Queens in 2007, he was hitting up to 140.
     
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    No he wasn't.
     
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    Mahut is not the oldest but he's close! Wayne Arthurs won his 1st (and only) title in 2005 at the grand old age of 33 (Scottsdale). Jeremy Bates won his 1st (and only) title at 31 in 1994 (Seoul).
    ETA: Tom Gullikson also won his only singles title in 1985 at 33 years old and it was on grass (Newport). Frew McMillan, mostly a doubles specialist won his first singles title in 1974 at 31 on carpet.
     
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    Thanks for that. I would never have guessed those names. Always assumed McMillan and Gullikson only ever titled in doubles!
     
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  36. JRAJ1988

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    TW Staff I thought I could bump this as I've got a sneaking suspicion that Mahut is going to have another solid Grass court season.

    He's in the Semis in Holland and has been cutting through the field like a knife through butter. I like seeing this guy play and his 3rd round at the French Open has seemingly woke his season up.
     
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    I agree and think he has a great shot at the title here!

    Hewitt was really unlucky that he had to play Mahut in the first round. Mahut is an exceptional grass player plus already went through qualies, so is very nicely acclimatized to these courts. I don't see Haase beating him despite Haase's good form, and the other guys left are more than beatable for Mahut.
    Rooting for him!
     
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  38. ScentOfDefeat

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    He's no Benneteau, that's for sure. :twisted:
     
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    Mahut is a legend in his own right, despite the somewhat poor tittle record. so many crazy achievements.
     
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    Mahut is a real grass specialist. Nobody should fancy playing him.
     
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    1 more to go for a 3rd grass title.

    How difficult does Federer's 06 Wimbledon draw look now, other than the Bjorkman semi, of course:

    Round 1: Gasquet (finished world ranking 16th 2005, 18th 2006, 8th 2007, so a clear Top 20 player. 07 Wimbledon semi-finalist)

    Round 2: Henman (4-time Wimbledon SF, 4-time QF, still dangerous on grass as Queens showed that year)

    Round 3: Mahut

    Round 4: Berdych

    QF: Ancic (04 SF, still made QF post-mono in 08...was the last man to beat Federer on grass back then)

    F: Nadal
     
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  42. ACE of Hearts

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    Rooting for nicolas. Wanna see goffin vs mahut
     
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    I like Nicolas Mahut. Hope he beats Goffin or Muller in the final (either way it will be very tough).
     
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    Mahut to beat Wawrinka for his first slam title @Wimby'15! Book it!
     
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    Allez, Nico!
     
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    Mouthwatering final tomorrow!
    Liking both Goffin and Mahut, so that's a "whatever outcome, I'll be fine with the result"-match.
    Slightly rooting for grass-artist Mahut though.
     
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    Plus one! The sidebar: Goffin getting to the final in his first grass tourney after his abysmal 1R Wimby loss to Murray last year, which launched his renaissance.
     
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    Yeah! Well, it's a close call for me. Either one claiming the title here would just be as awesome.

    The reason I still choose to root for Mahut is because he's running out of time, at age 33-34 (?).
    Plus, one of the very few true 'specialists' still out on the tour nowadays, plus 2. another title would add to his claim for WCOAT - Weirdest Career of All Time. :D

    I do think Goffin's the favourite for the win tomorrow, though. :)
     
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    So lightening does strike twice in the same place?

    Congrats Mahut.
     
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    When Mahut is playing - expect the unexpected! :)
     
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