Can one point change the match result ?

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  1. Nostradamus

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    That backhand passing shot miss by Nadal pretty much changed the end result of the match. Had Nadal made that pass, he would have most likely held and go ahead by 5-2 score. and match would have been his. If Novak goes on to win the grand slam this year, then we will look back on that point as the history making point.
     
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  2. Lsmkenpo

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    Yes, one point could have also given Djokovic the first set, and the match would have been over in 3 sets. It would have than been one of the worst major finals played in the open era.

    One point can not only change a match but it can completely change public perception, and tennis history.
     
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  3. 30fifteen

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    A point can change any match result. The line between winning and losing is very thin between two evenly matched opponents.
     
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  4. Nostradamus

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    i think that one point could change history as well. If Novak wins the Grand slam this year, history would have been made.
     
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  5. gregor.b

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    Ask Novak about THAT return of serve against Fed at the US Open last year. See what he thinks.
     
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  6. ledwix

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    Yes, every single point of course has an effect on the score and the match in general. It's not like that single point decided it. It was a combination of everything. If Djokovic took advantage of his 5-3 lead while serving in the tiebreak, he would have wrapped it up in 4. He also had the 0-40 on Nadal's serve. etc.
     
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    weve seen it happen countless of times
     
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  8. Lsmkenpo

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    Not only can one point change a match, but many points can become insignificant as a result of one.

    A player can win more points and games than his opponent but still lose the match.
     
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  9. Sentinel

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    Wasn't there one point that changed Murray's match with someone last year. Pretty big match.

    And one dropshot that changed Roger's match (RG final first set i think). Lots of such examples. Nice alternate universe of one-point-that-changed.

    Roger also admitted one point against Haas changed his match at 2009 RG.
     
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  10. wimble10

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    I think it's much worse when the point is decided by an incorrect line call. Happened a few times in this tournament. eg. Berdych/Nadal, Isner/Nalbandian match.
     
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  11. Hood_Man

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    Davydenko may well have lost the 2010 Australian Open with that wild forehand in the second set, when he had a break point for a double break against Federer in the quarter final.
     
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  12. fundrazer

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    No, it cannot change the match in the way you are thinking. I made this same point to MichaelNadal. You change one point, the whole rest of the match following that point follows a different path.

    But yes, one point can turn around a match.
     
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  13. Xizel

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    Federer's first set against Karlovic this Aussie. Luckiest net cord (I think) ever. Having a set point on Karlovic's serve and winning it with sheer luck.
     
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  14. OddJack

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    Yes sure can.

    People need to remind themselves that at 5-3 Djoker went for a FH winner that was missed for same number of millimeters that Nadal missed that BH. While the passing shot would have given Nadal a 40-15 lead, the FH would give Djoker 3 match points.
     
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  15. ATP100

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    Easy Answer: NO

    In peoples minds....yes
     
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  16. Tammo

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    Roddick could have won Wimbledon 2009 if he had made that volley in the 2nd set TB.
     
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  17. romeo8880

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    There is absolutely no chance of that ever happening.
     
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  18. wintintu

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    The answer is yes - it can:

    Murray missed chance at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Rafa's serve at Wimbledon 2011

    Rafa missed backhand at 2-2 4-2 30-15 against Novak at Australian Open 2012

    Djokovic return at 2-2 4-5 15-40 on Federer's serve at US Open 2011

    They are the ones that jump out at me! Murray's against Rafa in particular - once he hit that shot I knew in my head he would lose
     
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  19. Vamos Rafa

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    That would be the Wimby semi against Rafa. Looked like he would win before missing a simple forehand.
     
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    Can anybody find some video of that shot? I can't find the highlight anywhere?
     
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  21. Don Felder

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    Stole my post. No kidding. That return was a total, resigned tank "smash as hard as I can" shot... and it changed the match!
     
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  22. Ledigs

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    With Djokovic and Nadal, yes. With other pairings probably not so much.
     
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  23. The Gentleman's Sport

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    You've been wrong about Djokovic in the past...

    He also wasn't going to win the USO according to you. (We're now at 5 slams btw)

    Nadal can't do anything, and you think Fed's ever gonna beat Djokovic again?
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  24. Castiel

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    Yes, definetly, I know for sure that the point in the third set in Federer vs Haas match at the FO changed the whole match, and its that point, that actually gave Federer the opprotunity to win the French Open.
    There you go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg_0a9av-E&feature=related
    point starts right after federer misses the forehand
     
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  25. The Gentleman's Sport

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    The answer to the question is yes. Look no further than The Shotâ„¢ from the Djokovic/Fed USO 2011 semi as Gregor mentioned.

    But if we're really talking about Nadal's error, the answer is no. It wouldn't have made a difference. It wasn't a crucial moment or a special shot and there were plenty of chances Djokovic missed earlier in the match which would've wrapped it up nicely in his favour.
     
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  26. Hood_Man

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    Probably the scariest match I've ever seen.
     
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  27. Castiel

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    My heart rate in this match was higher than Nadal's top spin rate.
     
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    If there is only one point I remember from my life as a tennis fan, it would be this one. Just after he hit this IO FH, French commentators were already saying "if Federer goes on to win the FO this year, this FH will be remembered." How right they were! :)
     
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  29. jackson vile

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    Worked for Novak USO 2011, that one point turned around the whole match. Otherwise Nadal would have defeated Federer in the final.
     
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  30. Hitman

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    Yeah, you're right. That one point ensured that Nadal was not going to defend USO. The winner of the event had been decided by that one shot.
     
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  31. westside

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    As mentioned earlier, Roddick missing THAT volley denied him of his first Wimbledon (imo).

    Federer netting a tweener on MP against Safin in the 2005 AO SF. After the shot, you could see in his face that he knew it was an unnecessary shot.

    Roddick v Hewitt 2001 USO QF. This call; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sr3A10qZkE
     
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  32. Beryl

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    The literal answer is no. You have to win by 2 points to take any game, including tiebreakers, so two points to take any match. Two points can change the result, one is insufficient. The easy example is when it's 6-6 in a 3rd set tiebreaker: whoever wins the next two points wins the match.

    However, mentally, one point can definitely shift the match. Most obvious examples is the missed easy putaway forehand sitter by Murray Wimbledon semi 2011 at 7-5, 2-1, 15-30 on Nadal's serve.
     
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