Can you guess my serve speed?

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  1. tennis_nerd22

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    hey all,

    ive been wondering what the speed of my serve is, but i have no means of checking, as i dont have access to a radar, and as far as im aware, my club doesnt have one. so ill describe my serve and maybe someone can hazard a guess as to what the speed is? obviously you cant tell me exactly, but just a range (ex 50-60 mph). its my worst stroke and im really trying to work on it.

    k, so my fastest serve (flat, but with a bit of slice) takes 2 bounces to reach the fence. however the second bounce is within a foot of the fence. the fence is regular distance from the baseline of the court. im not sure exactly how far that is, but hopefully you guys know (its about 6 metres). also, i serve about 1 and a half feet from the middle of the court.

    i know this is a hard question, but im just really curious as to how bad my serve really is :) im working on it...
     
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  2. LuckyR

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    By your description, it sounds like the speed is approximately: not-fast-enough-to-rattle-your-competition.
     
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  3. snoflewis

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    there isn't really a way of telling....but im gonna guess it's not very strong.
     
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  4. theartoftennis

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    If you get a loud cracking noise that sends chills through your spine, that's the 90+ sound. :p
     
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  5. Andres

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    7 mph. 8 mph on a good serving day :D
     
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  6. SydneyJim

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    hmmm my ball hits the fence after it bounces in the service box, i serve about 120mph avg, but the thing is if you have a lot of spin it'll bounce high up on the fence as well, so there's really no way for me to tell you how fast your serve is
     
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    Are you kidding me? What kind of bs answer was that? 8 mph? More like 10.233939382832940982532857239547157 mph! Geez!

    Seriously, though, I would say not very fast.
     
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  8. MTChong

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    That's not too good an indicator of speed, but I'd say not too fast - no more than 70mph, I would think. As to why it isn't a good indicator: ball flight path.
     
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  9. tennis_nerd22

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    k thanks for the responses guys, and yes i know my serve sucks. though i can get aces, but it still sucks. anyways, my serve has a weird spin, because it doesnt bounce up that much, it swerves and skids downward... i would say its no more than 70, 80 max, but i doubt that. guess the only way is to radar it somewhere somehow or videotape it...

    actually i was thinking of doing something with a friend or whoever. i jsut get the person to time how long it takes my serve to hit the fence, and find out how fast it went per metre (according to distances on the court, ill use math ;)). and then find it per hour :D
     
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  10. supersmash

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    Oh I love that sound. It sounds even better when I find the courage to blast away on the second serves.
     
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  11. decroo15

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    I would say somewhere in that range.
     
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    From one baseline to the other the ball loses somewhere between 25-50% of its initial velocity due to wind resistance. That says nothing about the big losses due to spin and the big lack of precision on measuring the "touchdown" point. You also won't know total distance.

    All in all, it would be a good excercise for an engineering physics class.

    I would try and get your hands on a radar gun... You don't know somebody that knows somebody that knows a cop?
     
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  13. noobplayer

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    my serve from baseline hits the service box and bounces up and gets stuck to the fence so can u guess that? probably not
     
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  14. SydneyJim

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    lol, you should play indoors, the sound is louder =)
     
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  15. brucie

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    Well it depends how you hit it bounces to fence are a poor method.

    My flat is 105 ish it hits fence on 1 bounce the one in the square a few foot up the fence, my twist i hit around 80 max, that hits the fence higher up than flat therefore this method is useless.
     
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    I would add however and il put it in a new post to be noticed. The how highit is up the fence method is a good way of showing the weight on your serve i suppose.
     
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  17. shindemac

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    How do you know it bounced 2 feet from the fence? Did you see it, or did a friend on the other side see it? If you saw it, it can be deceptive from your angle. You could think it's 2 feet, but it could be more like 8-10 feet.

    Your serve could be anywhere from 70 to 85. Most likely not higher since you couldn't hit the fence. Your serve is decent, but it sounds like you are arming it. My serve was similiar this summer, but I loosened up and now I can hit the fence anywhere from 1-3 feet up. But the balls I'm using are so flat from practicing my serve so much, that I need to buy a new batch of balls to see if the results are still the same. They basically have no fuzz left, so I notice they bounce much higher than other balls with some fuzz left.

    Try to serve at 85% or 90%. This may actually make your serve faster because you will stay loose and not tense the wrong muscles. I think that made the biggest difference for me.
     
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  18. MTChong

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    Definitely, I was playing indoors for the first time ever, and my serve was on. I was hitting corners and straight up the T easily over 100 mph, I'm sure; it would bounce and hit a good 6-7 feet up on the curtain! I've never served that fast in my life; and I know that I have a pretty decent serve. The sound is truly amazing; I love it!
     
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    hehe, i remember the first time i played indoors when i was any good... i loved it... i played like a god lol i was like daym i can hit hard... then i went back outside and it was like wtf happened hahahaha. my fastest server was @ Rice U my 2nd year playing... holy shieetttt 138... didn't think i could ever serve that fast
     
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  20. iamke55

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    Exactly as you said: 50-60 range if it's 2 bounce flat serve.
     
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  21. tarheels2323

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    138? Wow, that's impressive. Many pros never hit that speed.
     
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    Hitting the fence in 2 bounces is too slow unless you were talking about the side fence, in that case you should go pro.
     
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  23. Lleyton Hewitt

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    what is the average serve spped for a 14 year old?
     
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    Only Andy Roddick, Chris Guccione, Taylor Dent, Greg Rusedski, Ivo Karlovic, Ivan Ljubicic, Nicolas Massu, Fernando Gonzalez, Joachim Johannson, Marat Safin, Agustin Calleri, Mark Philippoussis, Max Mirnyi, Thomas Johannson
    Fernando Verdasco, Danielle Bracciali, Mario Ancic, Wayne Arthurs, Jose Acasuso, Wesley Moodie, Feliciano Lopez, Pete Sampras, Gael Monfils, Nicolas Almagro, and Richard Gasquet ;)

    Richard Krajicek only got to 137.6 mph max ;)
    Goran Ivanisevic only got to 136 mph.
     
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  25. MTChong

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    Yeah, I've only played a couple times since because my arm bothers me when I play too frequently. Now 138, I'm nowhere near that - just a 17 year old tennis enthusiast that doesn't play tournaments and is plagued with injuries :neutral:
     
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  26. Caswell

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    The "guess my serve speed" threads are almost as amusing as the "what's my NTRP" threads. Both filled with delusional people.
     
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  27. LN_Dad

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    Really? How did you arrive at these numbers? Did you have someone with a radar gun aiming at your serve?
    One of my better serves will fly by a 5.0 who's 4ft behind the baseline. I can't tell if that's a 100mph or 110mph. Can you?
     
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  28. ryomasengu

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    it must be at least 300 mph
     
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