Canadian media sexist they attack Eugenie Bouchard YET not Milos Raonic.

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  1. Amelie Mauresmo

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    Anyone who is from Canada can see the sexism in the Canadian newspapers. The National Post a Toronto paper had a chart and graphs about Eugenie Bouchard losing after Wimbledon. The Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star have been relentless criticizing Eugenie. However, Milos Raonic is Canada's golden boy he has a great serve BUT his movement, return of serve and backhand are poor. I do not see the Canadian press making charts or graphs about Milos Raonic losing in the fourth round of the US OPEN for the third year in a row! I also do not see the Canadian media criticizing Milos about his weaknesses. It is clearly sexism. The Canadian media also ignore the fact there are five women who are ahead of Eugenie in terms of accomplishments. The Canadian media have treated Eugenie like she is a failure after Wimbledon and that is ludicrous.Eugenie is adjusting to the expectations and fame. Milos has been high profile longer than Eugenie but he does NOT get the same sexist treatment she has gotten from the Canadian press. I also want to point a lot of these sports writers in Canada are your typical misogynistic straight males. I think I only read one article by a Canadian journalist criticizing Milos Raonic by Damien Cox. Nobody else has said Milos RETURN of SERVE is his downfall. Milos is NOT going higher until he fixes the return of serve.
     
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  2. Midaso240

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    Why are Canadians so weird when it comes to their tennis players? Is it just because it's been so long since they've had a successful player?
     
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    The over-the-top criticism of horseface Raonic is just the latest manifestation of the heterosexist Canadian media culture’s continued failure to seize opportunities to blast Pospisil for his losses in the headlines.
     
  4. KtM

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    Is the article anywhere online to read?

    Keep in mind Bouchard has been hyped as the next big thing, given the lime light over Milos for most of this year. But now that peculiarities and holes are appearing in her results the purpose of the articles may be to bring the hype back down to earth. Milos hasn't been hyped up as a future multislam winner, but Bouchard has, and with that comes the praise, limelight, but also the scrutiny.

    That being said there might be a slight to moderate bit of sexism like you describe.
     
  5. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    You realise Milos has cemented a place in the top 10 and has been doing particularly well, right?

    Sure, he lost last night, but against top class opposition after a real battle, so meh,,,

    I admit I'm not a fan, he's like some hideous hybrid of Tim Robbins and Ivan Lendl, but give him credit where it'a due at least.

    Even in your frothing at the mouth lunacy you must realize Genie hasn't quite been living up to the hype.
     
  6. Love Game

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    wow this is disappointing ... sports writers being sexist ... wouldnt be surprised if soemthing similar is true around the world ... both genie and milos lost today ... maybe since milos match was in the evening, the writers will publish their articles critical of milos tomorrow? :eek:
     
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    As of date I think Raonic even with his obvious limitations has better chances at winning majors than Genie.
     
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    You're probably right although that sounds a tad ironic when it is Bouchard who has made her first GS final at the age of 20 whilst 23 year old Raonic is still seeking his!

    Both are probably over-hyped but it is understandable. All countries tend to over-hype their best players a bit especially the ones who have been starved of success for a long time (eg. UK and Canada). In some cases it is justified more than in others but it doesn't necessarily mean they don't have the potential to go all the way at some point!
     
  10. Gonzo_style

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    You telling me there are people who read Canadian newspapers?
     
  11. tacou

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    I think making two major semis, a Wimbledon final, and a R16 in your second full season is pretty good.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    The difference with Genie is that her hype has extended beyond the Canadian border. She has been called the "It Girl" by Evert. She has been predicted to win multiple slams. The TV commentators have fallen all over themselves proclaiming her greatness. She has accomplished nothing that has warranted her the label as the savior of the WTA (who knew that the WTA needed saving). She has no obvious weapons except her cool calm demeanor on court. Other than the praise heaped upon Milos' serve, I've never heard anyone state anything like this about Raonic (at least outside of Canada).

    The expectations for Genie are so great that when she fails to meet them the height from which she will fall is much greater than for Milos. The WTA president, Stacy Allaster, is Canadian and she has gotten carried away with there being a highly ranked Canadian player. She has built the WTA marketing campaign around Genie. So far, Genie has faltered with the pressure outside of the slams. And as with Sloane, the slams come only 4 times a year. You need to learn to win in the smaller tournaments before you can win in the pressure packed realm of a major.
     
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    More bad news for Genie.

    Justin Beiber arrested . CNN reports 'Justin Bieber was arrested on charges stemming from an alleged fight after his ATV collided with a mini-van in Canada Friday, police say. '
     
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    Is there an actual connection between the two?
     
  17. chrischris

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    But Genie is so hot and Raonic isnt.
    Doesntshe benefit from it in reality despite the perceived slant of perspective in the media?
    After all karisma and sex appeal does attract people more than anything, one would be a fool to pretend it doesnt,
    Despite how political correct one might strive to be, doesnt change that one bit...
     
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    I guess the important thing is not to get carried away and distracted by all the media attention. Hopefully she has able and level-headed advisers about her who can help her to prevent this happening so she can just knuckle down and focus on her tennis and improving her game. Raonic seems quite a level-headed chap who doesn't get carried away by media hype. He is just focusing on improving his game and getting better and better. Methinks Bouchard would do well to watch how he handles it all and follow his example!
     
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    Huge difference. Look at the actual competition in women's tennis vs. men's tennis. Bouchard lost in a major final to Kvitova. Who yes is a grass court specialist but is terribly inconsistent. Raonic went out to this 17 time major winner who you might have heard from.

    To put things in more perspective Bouchard's record at majors this year is 19-4 where as her record outside of majors is 23-15. Her ranking is bloated from a few big runs. (Very similar to Sloane last year.) But Raonic on the other hand is 41-16 on the year, 14-4 in majors and 27-12 outside. It doesn't look huge, but take it a step further. In the ATP Master Series tour of the 7 so far Raonic has finished QF or better in 6 with two of those being SF or better. Genie in the 7 top level Premier tournaments has failed to make the QF.

    Raonic has taken a huge step from last year to this year and that was from being a low to fringe top 10 guy to being a consistent top 10 player. He lost to Kei Nishikori, but Kei is another fringe top 10 guy who matches up well against Raonic. Mind you Raonic has accomplished all of this with a pretty strong top 10 field in the ATP that has been pretty uncrackable. Just look at how many straight years Fed, Murray, Djok, Nadal, Ferrer and Berdych have been in the top 10. Raonic has actual implanted himself firmly in there with points earned through the year.

    Again I think the biggest thing with Genie is she is following a far too similar trend to Wozniacki. The hype train is strong, media expects too much, when really they should just expect her to do what Raonic is doing this year, next year and take it one step at a time.
     
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    Wierd poast.
     
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    At the end of the day, the media writes stories about what interests the audience, and clearly there doesn't need to be a detailed breakdown to know that in general, there is a lot more interest in Bouchard than Raonic.
     
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    I am actually from Canada, and I haven't heard anything that would lead me to believe Bouchard is treated unfairly. In fact, and as opposed to the OP, I will provide an actual reference, on TSN The Reporters this weekend, they debated on whether Bouchard and Raonic would ever win a slam in their career. They unanimously predicted Bouchard would while one of them didn't think Raonic would win one.

    On RDS, they were nothing but supportive of her, especially after the way she battled through heat exhaustion in her last match.

    I'm not saying nobody is sexist, I'm just saying, OP, that this kind of hit-and-run is tasteless. Provide references, or else your comments are meaningless.
     
  24. stoo

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    The Canadian sports media are just the same as the American sports media.... full of $**T. How about just watch the sport and form your own opinions without the bias of a bunch of arrogant sports writers.
     
  25. Bartelby

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    Some Canadian newspapers are unforgiveably reactionary both in political and cultural terms, so you can expect anything.
     
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    When there was that incident with Raonic touching the net and lying about it, it became a scandal that everyone in the tennis world was talking about for a couple of weeks. Everywhere except in Canada. There was a complete blackout of the whole thing. I don't think it was orchestrated from a single center, just an amazing occurrence of a groupthink for everybody to see.

    When it comes to Bouchard, I find her technique so flawed that it's grating. Not that I stop watching her play. I like watching women's tennis, so I watch her. Also, I use her game as an example for my daughter how not to play.
     
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    I used to root for both players until the hype got too much. Way. too. much.
     
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    Wait, Canadians can be mean? :)
     
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    Bouchard has both benefitted and been disadvantage by sexism in the media.

    she's certainly taking adv of her looks and how the media has portrayed her as the new glamour girl. her pockets are quite fuller because of it...

    speaking of the OP and his usual obsession with sexuality; i wonder what would be the reaction if Bouchard were to come out as a lesbian?
     
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    Yes, but then we apologize immediately after, if we haven't already apologized before. :)
     
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    I haven't seen any evidence of anti-Genie bias -- quite the opposite -- and there are no links to such things in the OP. Call in to McCown today at 4PM and complain.
     
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    Very funny. :)
     
  33. jrs

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    Exactly...

    These players are athletes and entertainers....I believe the saying in Hollywood is "Don't care what you write about me ....just make sure you spell my name correctly!"

    I think expectations in Canada are higher for Bouchard than Ranoic. So naturally more will be written about her, good and bad.
     
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    Funny how people talk about sexism on a forum full of it.
     
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    no, in the 1950s black people were not allowed on TV:D.
     
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    I think that can be an issue. the media love beautiful women but when they fail they are quick to point at them as failure who are only tennis playing models.

    it was especially bad with kournikova who actually was a very good player (no slam winner material but top10 for sure), even fat guys who have never done any sport would joke about her not being able to play tennis at all.

    even with sharapova during her struggling years people would talk about just concentrating on modeling and multi million dollar marketing deals.

    it is an advantage to be beautiful but when you stumble the jealous people will come out of their holes and attack you.
     
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    I don't understand them being hard on Genie she has done well, I think she would have won if not for the heat getting to her. At least she is a real tennis player with a backhand, unlike freddy forehead the serrvebot clod.
     
  38. ttbrowne

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    Look, she put herself out there and posed for many covers of fashion mags, with the mag putting "The Next Big Tennis Sensation From Canada". That is just asking for it. I realize she needs the money but you have to reap what you sow.
     

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