Charles Nguyen (nguyenc_07@yahoo.com) is a SCAM ARTIST

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  1. The Topspin Man

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    i am not too sure if it is or isnt

    but i know for sure that charles cant write english for crap

    he is pretty bad at english i think, just from the way he writes

    aint the smartest cookie it seems

    definitely not the smartest cookie messing with us either - or anybody

    so dodgy

    anybody from san jose want to raise or file a complaint report on my behalf?
     
  2. 10sbune

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    I hope you are able to file this Topspin Man. If nothing else, the police will have a record of this individual and perhaps they have similar reports from other persons about this one individual....and if they get enough reports maybe they can pursue it further.
     
  3. meowmix

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    To those of you that emailed me, thanks. I added managed to add 2 (I think) to the group. I sent friend requests to the rest of you. To add you to a secret group, you have to be "friends" with the admin...
     
  4. dantespark33

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    I just remembered something
    it might have been mentioned earlier, something about Viet tradition but i'm not too sure
    anyways, the women answering the phone may deny the person is there because they think the caller is a telemarketer, or when they open the door they think it is a solicitor, because my mom does that when someone she does not recognize calls, she just says they have the wrong number or the person is in the shower etc.
     
  5. origmarm

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    This thread has made for very interesting reading.

    Just a thought, you have his yahoo address, did you try reporting the e-mail to yahoo as linked to internet fraud? They may be able to block his e-mail or something, that might get his attention, I know it would really p*ss me off :)
     
  6. meowmix

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    Hmm... Interesting... I have an idea, but I don't want Charles picking up on it... I'll leave it on the wall in the facebook group.
     
  7. dantespark33

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    =O how do i get added to the facebook thing again?
    i deleted mine but can reopen it back up
     
  8. meowmix

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    if you want to get added to the facebook thing, send me an email w/ your name and your facebook email (or your network) through TW
     
  9. Mark Vessels

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    nguyen is pronounced win
     
  10. The Topspin Man

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    hey meowmix

    can i just applaud your effort with this facebook page

    i havent taken a look yet but it sounds fantastic

    can you send me the link to my email at ivan_kwok_23@hotmail.com

    i dont have facebook but i'll use my gf's

    let me know - cheers mate

    ps. i got TW to make this thread a sticky =)
     
  11. meowmix

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    Topspin man, send me an email through TW with ur gf's facebook email. I can't email a link because it's a "secret" group, so nothing'd show up.
     
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    For the safety of your "private group" I suggest not inviting anyone with accounts made within this month. (AKA Mashimaru) No offense but his account was made 7/17/08.
     
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    ^I'll take that advice. Sorry Mashimaru, but I really don't want to risk it... If you want, I'll email you anything of import that gets said in the facebook group.
     
  14. The Topspin Man

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    hey meowmix

    i still cant find a way to email you through TW?

    can you let me know how i can contact you

    ps. is that you in the picture, on your signature?

    thanks =P

    how did the visit go mashimaru?
     
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    Click my name and a tab will come up. Click send an email to meowmix.
     
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    hey meowmix r you affiliated with the Meowmix cat food sponsored game show? I have been hearing about the audition in San Francisco on radio lately and I might go. I have a cat =)
     
  17. meowmix

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    No, I am by no means affiliated. I simply chose the name because my last name sounds like Meow.
     
  18. fluffy Beaver

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    ^^ No offense but this guy sure types like Charles. Not only that, he/she claims the package was "sent back to the postal office" hmmmm.
     
  19. kobe3pointer

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    He IS mr.charley.... wow, the guts to come back and lie...
     
  20. fluffy Beaver

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    Yup just figured it out even more check out the post below mine.

    There is a reason this guy doesn't want facebook to be used, CAUSE HE PERSONALLY KNOWS HE CAN'T READ IT.

    I hope you go to jail and have them "you know what" happen to you. Scam artist just p*s* me off.
     
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    Get his IP, give it to feds...they will get him
     
  22. The Topspin Man

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    i agree with everybody here!

    i have contacted charles on previous exchanges (whilst doing the deal) and i can tell you that charles really does like this idiot that is "mashimaru"

    i am not 100% if it is, but he certainly does talk like him

    the fact that he cant string a few words together without making stupid grammatical errors clearly potrays him to be charles - he never had the best english skills

    i dont think he can be trusted and the person who first initially made up the idea of shutting him down deserves an award

    you are a lowlife, soleless pig that has some nerve coming back to this thread you dropkick - go die

    ps. if the lady did send the package back to the post office, then i would have received it given it would have been - returned to sender but i didnt get it, so you are just a lyer my friend - a complete bs artist
     
  23. Bend008x

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    Don't forget to mention, mysteriously Charles not long after had 2 K Tours (not to mention same grip size) for sale on CL and thru the flyers. I'm sure it was sent back to the Post Office, Post office of Charles Nguyen
     
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    The criminal always returns to the scene of the crime!
     
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    Nice line Shaggy!

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  26. Bend008x

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    Just return the rackets, show some proof and this whole ordeal will be over. Just ask yourself if the rackets that you scammed are worth have having criminal charges filed against you or being prosecuted over.

    Just send them back
     
  27. fluffy Beaver

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    Again if this user ask to join your facebook group you probably shouldn't. What is it with these "new users" and only responding to this thread.
     
  28. meowmix

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    Well, so far, not that many people have asked to join... Probably under 10. Only about 6 or 7 have sent me emails, and only 3 have actually been added to the group. And yes, all 3 of them are respectable.
     
  29. Azzurri

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    I seriously doubt he would be prosecuted. First thing is, how can TM prove their were his racquets (the ones being sold on craig list)? The address he sent them may not be where Charles lives. Sorry to say, but he got boned. The guy has no options and Charles probably knows this and is now just messing with everyone. Mail and wire fraud is pretty cut-n-dry, but there needs to be proof. I just don't see it. He signed for nothing...correct? I am wondering if the guy admitted to taking (having them in his possesion) them. If so, then there would need to be proof it was HIM who made this confirmation via email. There is so much that needs to be done. Never, ever make a trade with anyone from another country.

    I feel for the TM, but there is nothing he can do.
     
  30. Bend008x

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    While I applause your effort to take this to a private forum, I highly doubt taking this to facebook or to another private forum will be any different from what is all ready going on here.

    While being suspicious is one thing, pointing out everyone as Charles is a bit paranoid. As many people who are here know, one of the main forums for tennis discussion is the TW forums and one of the main places to look for reviews and spec is TW's site.

    But anyhow, I'm not looking for an invite to the society, you can relax. I'm here to offer whatever info/help I can, but if it is not wanted, it is surely not an Inconvenience on my part place my period after this post.

    I believe with a bit of investigation from the authorities, there are tracks that leads back to Charles. First of all, I'm sure the phone number he listed wasn't a prepaid phone and was registered to him or his family. Secondly, the OP would have records to the emails and other exchanges that had with Charles. That shows that there was a deal and that a transaction was taking place and the terms of the deal.

    Secondly, the goods to be exchange from the OP were K Tours with L4 grips, it so happens according to Charles own post, he was looking for some K tours, two weeks or so after, Charles post that he has K-Tours for sale and the exact same grip. It is not hard to connect the dots that rackets Charles is trying to dump are of the OPs - not to mention he posted them on E****. E**** would definitely have name the sellers registered.

    As for the address, there is no doubt in my mind that the address Charles posted was of his actual address. He did not use that address to scam the OP, he has posted that address for MANY of his ads, ones here and ones various other forums along with other hints he has posted in various sites, e.g., "Tennis courts across my house".

    The OP knows Charles involvement, his phone number, his address, what he looks like, emails and other forms of communication, all is left is for the OP to go out there and go after Charles. Contact the SJPD until someone will help, list whatever help you can to place pressure on Charles. Don't let him off the hook!

    Also, if you both ends up on Court TV, I hope you two go in front of Judge Judy. I'm sure it'll be fun to watch Charles lie in front of someone so intimidating (at least to me)
     
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    2 people is paranoid? Both of you are new both of you have all this "help" such as easily finding information about him.
     
  32. Skybox006

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    I am sure that they did open the front door for him, it's his house!! He probably opened it himself, walked outside and made this all up. Anybody can open the front door to their own house and make up a good story.
     
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    I believe with a bit of investigation from the authorities, there are tracks that leads back to Charles. First of all, I'm sure the phone number he listed wasn't a prepaid phone and was registered to him or his family. Secondly, the OP would have records to the emails and other exchanges that had with Charles. That shows that there was a deal and that a transaction was taking place and the terms of the deal.

    Secondly, the goods to be exchange from the OP were K Tours with L4 grips, it so happens according to Charles own post, he was looking for some K tours, two weeks or so after, Charles post that he has K-Tours for sale and the exact same grip. It is not hard to connect the dots that rackets Charles is trying to dump are of the OPs - not to mention he posted them on E****. E**** would definitely have name the sellers registered.

    As for the address, there is no doubt in my mind that the address Charles posted was of his actual address. He did not use that address to scam the OP, he has posted that address for MANY of his ads, ones here and ones various other forums along with other hints he has posted in various sites, e.g., "Tennis courts across my house".

    The OP knows Charles involvement, his phone number, his address, what he looks like, emails and other forms of communication, all is left is for the OP to go out there and go after Charles. Contact the SJPD until someone will help, list whatever help you can to place pressure on Charles. Don't let him off the hook!

    Also, if you both ends up on Court TV, I hope you two go in front of Judge Judy. I'm sure it'll be fun to watch Charles lie in front of someone so intimidating (at least to me)[/quote]

    While everything you said is logical, it really does not matter whole lot (maybe in People's court, but not a real judge). You see, TM has no proof any communication was with Charles Ngyeun. Unless Charles admits to any excahnge with TM, it would be hard for a judge to side with the TM. I also doubt the SJPD would do anything because of "circumstantial" evidence and that is what everything can be argued as. This example should be a warning to all that have read and posted on this thread. Trading with someone from another country is just asking to be ripped off, there is NO protection. Trust is the only thing we all have and when one person decides to take advantage of trust, you have this issue.

    The bottom line is proof. All evidence in this case is circumstantial. There is no signature receipt of the racquet, the home has another person as the owner, TM cannot prove the racquet's where his. Unless he has some type of documentation of serial #'s and what not, he has no leg to stand on in any court (talking about local courts and not prosecuting him, that would take police involvement and there is little proof it was actually Charles). There was a crime committed, yes but no proof it was CN.
     
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    Trader Beware!!

    Topspin Man. I feel your pain. We have all been taken at one time or another. For me it took multiple times over many years to figure out that you cannot rely on the word of a stranger no matter how much you want to trust people.

    I have been taken for thousands in the past, and will probably be taken again in some new fashion.

    Here is my suggestion.

    End the talk of revenge or paybacks, because if something bad does happen to him it is likely you will get a look at from the authorities since you have been so public about your disgust and displeasure.

    Seek all legal recourse against him and work to limit his ability to continue his frauds. There is a fine line between these things and harassment, so keep in mind that you put yourself at risk over the price a a few rackets.

    In a perfect world you could call on a friend in the Mob to collect your money, but in reality people like this often skate away free. It is likely that he will get a dose of misery from some direction he never expected, usually a girlfriend or wife. I'll give you an example.

    I had a guy break a racket of mine at a tennis club, a brand new Prince worth around $200 at the time. I was a Pro there and had it sitting in the office, he came by with a someone I knew and without permission just picked it up, walked away with it and broke it in a fit of temper. He promised to pay me for it, but I never heard back. I ran into him again at a club and could have beaten him badly in the parking lot, but let it go. Not worth jail time.

    Years later, I heard that he was doing illegal activity of some kind and had a pile of cash in a safe. Turns out his girlfriend got mad at him, cleaned him out and he could do nothing because it was ill gotten gains. I must have driven him insane. Oh well, bad for him, funny for me. :)

    Anyway, the point is that in the future I would recommend never to send off anything without payment unless you have long experience with someone. Consider this loss part of your education about human nature. There are many good and trustworthy people out there, but separating them from the con artists is only possible by direct experience with them. Other than that, use auctions where you at least have some recourse and can control the outcome. In this case, you are probably out of luck.

    If you want to avoid the risk of really getting really shafted, make sure you don't get married and have kids. Instead of losing a few rackets, try a few homes, a retirement, and a business. You will never get over it. :cry:
     
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    I am wondering if you understand the term "circumstantial"? There is NO proof the OP spoke, text, wrote, etc. with Charles. There is no way to prove he took receipt for a COMMON tennis racquet. The OP had no serial #'s, no eye-witness, no signature receipt. This thread is fine for people to be warned about Charles, but all this crap about prosecuting is NONSENSE.
    No offense, but you are clueless as to how the law works.
     
  36. Mdubb23

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    I know I am a completely new user, but I swear you all can trust me! I've been reading this whole thread, which is extremely entertaining, and decided to branch off of the idea that Charles Nguyen plays college tennis at Fresno City College---there IS a Charles Nguyen on their online roster--http://www.fresnocitycollege.edu/index.aspx?page=478--I know the link doesn't work, but you can copy and paste it into your web adress bar. Here's where it gets interesting though, it says good old Charlie is from Oxnard, California--not San Jose. Topspin, I'd suggest contacting the college, because he obviously is a registered student, which means the administraters at Fresno City College must have his authentic, and up-to-date contact information. Hope this helps.
     
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    I feel sorry for you. It sucks that someone would choose to stoop this low. At least we all know not to buy/trade from any of the mentioned culprits in this thread.

    As for something being done unless the authorities in California or that internet fraud force someone mentioned acts I don't think much can happen. Sadly it seems like a life lesson of getting tougher.

    Hopefully though someone can give this guy a taste of his own medicine someday, and take him for what he's worth
     
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    Like Mdubb23, I want you to know that I am trustworthy despite me barely making an account last month (this would be my first post in this thread anyhow). I stumbled over this thread when looking for sellers to stay away from, and I want you to know Topspin Man, if you're still reading this thread, that I hope you somehow get your stuff back. Since I read your guys' whole thread, I'm guessing your plans to catch this culprit continued on into the facebook thread you had made? Well, I hope that you guys, by now, have gotten more leads on him and things have improved. You guys got some pretty close leads on him it looked like at one point, the only problem was that he was probably reading them here. I dunno if you're still going after him, but Golden Ace gave some good advice with that, because karma does always come back and bites you in the ass. What goes around comes around. But still, if there is anything any of us could really do, know that we would. I'm from California (SoCal), and had I stumbled upon this thread earlier, I could have told my friend who actually lives in San Jose to at least take a look around. He's since moved down here, so it's kind of late for that. Not suggesting anything bad, but you know. I wish you the best with your situation, maybe the legal system fails here, but if you notified the authorities you never know if something will turn up. Hope something does man, best of luck!
     
  39. Wow, what a ******. So sorry for you topspin man, I know how it feels. I got cheated on **** but claimed it from paypal. This charles dude will get punished, no doubt, but just a matter of time.

    I don't have facebook, so can someone PM details of what's going on or any updates. It's like a real life detective story, so I can't stop thinking about what is going on now.

    Oh Charles, i know you aren't that smart given that you can't type a sentence without messing up gramatically, but are you really that retarded? Think of it his way; you are risking criminal charges for racquets that cost $200? Is it really worth it? Do you want to drag your friends and family into this? People have your AIM, email, and posts for records and chances are that you did this from your home computer, so your ip will be logged everywhere. The feds can track you down in an instant when they get involved. I may be a kid, but I don't think its too late to apologize to TopSpinMan and send him his racquets or atleast money for their value and time.

    I can't wait until this guy gets caught. Someone PM me any updates form the facebook thing.

    Great investigating guys, keep going.
     
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    I don't think they'll PM us any new updates or anything just to be safe in case we are Charles. Pretty tricky situation, but I guess it's been a month since their last post and they must have some new stuff on him. Hopefully they corner him soon.
     
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    all this stuff is crazy. The only reason i've been reading all of this is because I almost bought one of your k tour 90's from him. I had correspondence with him & he even sent me some link to "get connected" with him somehow (weird since it was only correspondence for that sale - not like we are friends or anything). He referred me to his craig's list ad for pictures & then asked if I lived in San Jose - I live in tx & couldn't meet up with him for the sale. Long story short, I was going to go through with paypalling him but then got cold feet for the only reason that I was worried about getting a fake (I read there are alot of fake k tour 90's out there) So I used my gift card to some giant Golf & tennis store (they bleeped out the name) & paid a lil more but got an authentic k tour 90 in person. This sux & I hope this guy gets pinched. I've had nothing but positive experiences with the few transactions that I've done with ppl from this forum but it's a real downer to hear about someone getting scammed so badly. Good luck topspin man - hope you get your rackets back or some sort of justice is served.
     
  42. Serving155

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    OMFG I got burned by the same guy as well. i ended up getting 96% of the money back because in california, 96% payment is considered full. he still kept like 40 bucks.
     
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    Can you give us some more details of what happened?Did you meet him personally?
     
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    Man, he only lives 10 minutes away from me.
     
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    Wow what a shmuck. community college hahahaha
     
  46. supertrex

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    so did he ever get hes racquet back or no?
     
  47. Chauvalito

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    This is interesting, the number of posts by new users in this thread is quite high, excluding the OP of course. I would even say that it might be statistically significant, especially for a classified thread.

    My point is that I would not be surprised if the culprit has been visiting this thread and commenting.
     
  48. LanEvo

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    idk maybe right? , i mean for all u know it could be any of us here
     
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    you have such a good chance to get justice for a lot of people here!
     
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    yeh, i can second the invalidity of his inquiries
     

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