check out my "Frankenstring" setup!

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  1. BruceD

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    After seeing all the hype about Wilson's new steam-Spin racquets and noticing they use a 17x15 string setup I though,"I wonder if I can duplicate this on one of my racquets?". So I took out 'ol Mr. Wilson, a '10 K-Factor Bold that had lost some of it's appeal for me, and proceeded to see which strings would be best left out to produce something like it.
    I came up with a 16x15 setup and went over to my stringer friend Micheal to do the deed!
    Using Pro's Pro Vendetta on the mains and Gamma syn-gut on the crosses produced a very open pattern in the sweet-spot area.
    After only a few "bounce tests" I can see this WILL produce more spin!
    Today I will go hit the ball to see exactly what it did.
    Will I get more spin? Will I get an unplayable racquet, with TOO much power in the sweet spot and nowhere else? Will it just break the strings on the first few hits?
    These questions, along with my findings will be posted later on today.
    I'm hoping to make an older design into something that would cost FAR less than a new racquet.

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  2. canny

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    im looking forward to the play test. I read tennis.com article on the racquets and seem promising. Theoretically it should produce alot more spin.
     
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  3. mmk

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    While it will make for an interesting experiment, from my understanding it would not be legal for USTA play, as the string density in the center of the frame has the same as or higher than at the outer edges which your pattern isn't.
     
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  4. SteveI

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    Sorry to say most USTA players have no clue about equipement or strings. You could make it to the Nationals before anyone might notice. They are all looking for foot faults or planning their next season best "sandbaging" team to win a 3.0 league.

    :)
     
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  5. Andyroo10567

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    Well, time to go try this on my old head.
     
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  6. Ronaldo

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    Don't take this for granted. Had a singles player ask an official to measure the head of my teammate's racquet to determine if it were legal. Our singles player was 65 at the time. Another needle***** move.
     
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    What racket was it? Can't imagine someone doing that....
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    Been 10 yrs but it was either Wilson's Outer Limits or some giant Head racquet. But to pull that move on Gramps who was just eligible for Social Security, come on?
     
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  9. SteveI

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    I bet in true USTA spirit you were winning that match... Class move.. measure a 65 year olds racket. BTW... how does one measure the head of a racket on the court??? Was the offical able to measure square inches?
     
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  10. Ronaldo

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    Was busy with my own match. At least the incident occured before the match started. Yes the old man won for the 19th time that year.
     
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  11. SteveI

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    Good for him!!!!!
     
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  12. Ronaldo

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    Not so good at sectionals, 20 yr olds with two legs and a racquet sent him packing back to the Shady Grove Home for the Weary.
     
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    Length.... I think.

    It says head... but thats the only thing I could think of.
     
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  16. BruceD

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    Power and SPIN!!

    Success! Now I get more trampoline effect AND incredible amounts of spin!

    I don't plan on entering any USTA event soon, so I'm not too concerned about the 'legality' of my monster!
     
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  17. Andyroo10567

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    ^^ Now that's what im talking about!! Im going to probably try it on one of my old Prestiges. I'll post some pics when i get around it.
     
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  18. fortun8son

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    I'm glad it's working for you.
    Tournament legality aside, if it increases your enjoyment, go for it.
    Now, let's see how long it lasts.
     
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  19. MikeHitsHard93

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    I can imagine that your stringer was both happy and confused about stringing less crosses lol
     
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  20. fortun8son

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    I was the stringer.'Twas not bad at all.
    I was more concerned with deformation.
    I wanted to string the crosses tighter.
    It shortened 1/8 inch coming off the machine.
     
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  21. I Heart Thomas Muster

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    My high school assistant coach played the Prince Graphite OS and skipped the second cross from the top and bottom to soften up the string bed but now I wonder if that was enough to add a noticeable amount of spin. This was back in 93 so there was no talk of strings snapping back into place for increased spin.

    This was back when dinosaurs roamed the Earth and we thought strings didn't move.
     
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  22. fortun8son

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    Now, that^^^ is legal and while it will add some power, I doubt that it would do anything for spin.
     
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  23. BruceD

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    It really DOES add spin, by grabbing the ball better from the open pattern. I can feel it better, too when I try to get more topspin and especially on the serve!
     
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    I've also added weight

    I've added another 10 gr of lead to the balance point on the throat piece now. this brings it up to a total strung weight of around 334 gm, or 11.78 oz. This is close to the weight of my Pro-Kennex composite destiny, that was the last racquet I played with when I could walk.
    That alone was enough to help make my serve something that is predictable, as I was having trouble with all of the new, light-weight racquets in my bag. t hey too got weight added, so I'm off to the courts to see how it helped, or hurt the Babolat Y-105, that NOW weighs in at 340 gm, 11.99 oz, with the same balance point as before, too.
    I've been having some tendinitis in my for-arm lately, so I'm hoping these changes will help alleviate some of it..otherwise I will be practicing hitting lefthaanded a little now, too..let's hope it only becomes an added weapon, not a neccessisty!
     
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  25. BruceD

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    What's next? My Fischer M-Pro no.1 could use a restring...

    I had looked at my fischer before the wilson, so now I see it can support a setup like that on the wilson! Loosing 7 strings, starting with the 4th cross from the bottom, up, should provide a slightly tighter pattern, because of it's 98" head size.


    I also jus snagged a used Fischer Magnetic tour, on the Eb, for $16.07..9.99 2nd day ups!, too!
     
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    So,what's NEXT?
    TOTAL FREAKIN' MONSTEROSITY!!!

    One is a Fischer...yes, but not the M-Pro 98, and MORE!!
    SO MUCH MORE, that it may find the limits of this idea.

    also, I'm very happy with that first Wilson K-bold and when comparing it to a similar weighted and balanced Babolat Y-107, except that the sweet spot on the K-Bold Franken has such a WONDERFUL hot spot, that you get hooked on it and the margin for error isn't very big. 1/2" left or right of a 4"x5" sweet spot seems pretty generous, I know,so it's part of me redeveloping a game!

    Now, if I had a 7"x10" sweet spot! Muhahaha!!
     
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  27. Ronaldo

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    BITD saw a racquet with a 12X16 string pattern strung with what looked like rope. Sold new for $10 but it was some off-brand so forgetaboutit. Had a bunch of Lecoste racquets never heard of too.
     
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  28. fortun8son

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    Monsterosity indeed.
    Vincent Price and Boris Karloff would be proud!
    Edward Racquethands? LOL
     
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    The're Here!! MONSTERS!!!

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    First is a Pro Kennex Graphite Slammer 110, that is called, "Werewolf". Using the same "skipped cross holes" design and spacing as the rest of the family, is very quick and aerodynamic and lethal!

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    Next is a fischer Magnetic Tour with a 105" head. "Count Dracula", is what I named it, for it smooth, but deadly feel, when striking an unassuming tennis ball!

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    Last, is the BIGGEST, BADDEST one of them all, a Prince air-Light 118" , I call,"GODZILLA"! IT has a fantastic 5"x7" long sweet spot now and can put SO much spin on the ball, it should be illegal!

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    ALL of them work just as I expected...FANTASIC, even without using 'poly' strings, they have more power and spin than when using the standard pattern.
    I've added weight to ALL my racquets no, to weigh between 12.5 oz and 13 oz. That makes so much difference in how it handles a ball that comes at you fast and hard, as well as making my serve something to be worried about, From my opponents point of view.

    Super-light racquest may FEEL good, when you pick one up in a store, but without adequit weight, you end up over-hitting trying to find the power you expected and now miss from an older, heavier racquet. Maneuverability isn't really compromised, asi have balanced all to have a head-light balance point, that measures to 12-24 points or 1.5 inches to 3.
    All frames held up fine, using a pattern that adds 5 lbs. to their tension, with a 42x47 lbs.mains X Cross's tension for all of them.
     
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  30. Ronaldo

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    How does a more open pattern add 5# to their tension?
     
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    5lbs was added to the cross tension to try to minimize frame distortion due to fewer cross strings.
    It was a guess. I probably could've gone higher.
     
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