Check out these old greats on vid

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  1. bluetrain4

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    The clips were amazing. As big of a tennis fan as I am, i really haven't watched that many old matches.

    These guys are just supremely talented and so fun to watch. The Laver-Borg clip was incredible.

    On to watch more.
     
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    You can upload the Ivanisevic/Rafter Wimbledon final (edited, about 20 mins per set). PM me for details or just go here: dub dub dub.tennis 4 you.com/forum/index.php?board=18.0
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Sampras start out with a wood racquet (when he was young). Thought that was why he had is PS's weighted up the way he did (to get them closer to the wood Pro Staffs (?) that he learned to play with).
     
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    Sampras said his first racquet was a woodie when he was a little kid.

    Don't place too much weight on my above post - I sometimes get excitable when these debates arise. I think Sampras would be a fine player with wood, just a different one.
     
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    probably true. It's funny but when he first hit the scene he reminded me of the film I'd seen of Jack Kramer. Sampras was the first player I remember to have a powerful and pretty all court game. The S & V crowd that I grew up with didn't have the prettiest ground strokes (McEnroe and Edberg pop to mind).
     
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    I myself don't find Sampras' game to be too aesthetically pleasing. Then again I prefer baseliners to servers and volleyers, so I'm hardly an expert.

    I find that Pete relied on power to get him out of jams in ways that he wouldn't be able to do in past eras. Such as the way he ran around his backhand in later years. But in his peak years he was almost a perfect player, very much unlike the Sampras that Wilander faced in 1989.
     
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    Thank you CyBorg for the games!!!
     
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    hi im new and i was wondering if anyone knew where i could get footage of Cynthia Doerner. I really want to see her play her rank was #15 in women's tennis and she played in the late 70s-ish i can't find her anywhere but that is probably because i am really bad at finding old tennis footage.can somebody help me?
     
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    Can anyone post some Court, King or Goolagong on You-Tube? Tennis did not start with Evert and Navratilova anymore than it did Connors and McEnroe! If they can find Laver ,Rosewall and Ashe to post, they can find these ladies! By the way, some great matches of Evert's and Austins have showed up on y-tube, including Evert's victories in the final rounds of USO 1980, her 1984 loss to Navratilova and Austin's USO victory over Navratilova in 1981. Evert's first open in 1971 is shown as well over Eisel. I'm not techy enough to post links, myself.
     
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    wow, great stuff. Tennis at it`s best, Wish i lived back then...
     
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    can anyone post some ramesh krishnan or derrick rostagno - matches ?
     
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    Nastase was one of the most gifted athletes of all time. Like Borg, his best shot was his body. Was fast like the wind. In tennis terms, he played an artistic allround game like Santana or now Federer. Had all the shots, including the topspin lob. Developed a very hard, underrated serve, especially in his later years. Only weakness was maybe the penetration on the volley, which cost him at least one Wimbledon win. Played and won many , many tournaments, around 80, if you count pre open and open era. Could beat and demolish all top players, including Borg and Connors, whom he owned for most of his career.Under the tutelage of Tiriac, he turned to nasty tricks, often to his own detriment. His nerves were as highly strung as his rackets. Had problems with favorite-status. In 1973, as the only top player, to play Wimbledon, and hottest favorite ever, he lost to Sandy Mayer in round of 16. Playing on his home ground, home clay and before all his relatives as line judges, he gifted the Davis Cup 1972 to the Americans, which made him very unpopular in Bukarest.Was disqualified by referee Horst Klosterkemper in the first round of 1975 Masters vs. Ashe, only to win the tournament vs. Borg 2,2 and 1.
     
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    I don't know if I was the last to know it, but I was delighted to discover some amazing, really old tennis footage in the British Pathe archive (http://www.britishpathe.com). Most of the material consists of Pathe Gazette newsreels, but there's also some raw footage and a few longer films - just beware that the quality of the free previews isn't always good. Some examples of the films I found of Bill Tilden:

    Tilden's firt professional match against Koseluh in 1931:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=4676

    I'm pretty sure the first match is between Tilden and Nusslein:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=50511

    Tennis Greats: Documentary containing footage of 1900!:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=81594


    These are just a few of the clips I found of Tilden, so there's much more good material to explore!
     
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    Just some more examples:

    How I play tennis - by Mlle. Suzanne Lenglen. Interesting slow motion footage of Lenglen's shots :
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=75159

    Crawford v Vines 1931 Wimbledon final:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=4059

    Olmedo v McKay, Lew Hoad v Pancho Gonzales in the early 60's:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=68396

    Budge's professional debut in 1939 v Vines:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=22806

    Budge v Riggs. Interview with both at the end:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=50406 -

    Don Budge v von Cramm (unfortunately not the 37 Davis Cup SF...). Despite the narration, amazing slow motion footage of Budge!:
    http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=50411
     
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    Thanks, great footage. The last film shows, that von Cramm had a fine slicing serve. And that the doubles were in contrary to singles much more net orientated, with fast volleying essential.
     
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    I found more good old clips in a couple of other sites. While their collection is not as big as the British Pathe archive, the clips they do have are of a much better quality.

    Some examples from http://www.thoughtequity.com:

    Tilden v Koseluh 1931 Madison Square Garden:
    http://www.thoughtequity.com/video/clip/1617539_003.do

    Budge v Riggs 1942 US Pro Championships:
    http://www.thoughtequity.com/video/clip/1617554_005.do

    Riggs v Kramer 1947 MSG:
    http://www.thoughtequity.com/video/clip/1617568_024.do


    Some from http://www.efootage.com:

    Fred Perry v Wilmer Allison 1934 U.S. Championships:
    http://www.efootage.com/play_clip.php?clip_id=57873

    Rosewall v Smith 1970 US Open final:
    http://www.efootage.com/play-stock-...ames-competition-compete-competing-competitor
     
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  28. Marcos

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    OK, still some more sites offering good ancient tennis clips.

    Examples from http://www.budgetfilms.com:

    Tilden d Richards in 1920's:
    http://www.budgetfilms.com/productdetail.aspx?productid=3604

    A point and excelent slow motion shots of Tilden:
    http://www.budgetfilms.com/productdetail.aspx?productid=3602

    Short clip of Budge d von Cramm Davis Cup 1937 (some consider it the best match ever):
    http://www.budgetfilms.com/productdetail.aspx?productid=3624


    http://www.producerslibrary.com/. Not much on this one, but had to highlight these:

    Budge d Austin, Moody d Jacobs 1938 Wimbledon:
    http://www.producerslibrary.com/displayProduct1.do?product_id=8713&product_name=VM-0225_003

    USA d Australia 1958 Davis Cup Final (Olmedo, Fraser etc.):
    http://www.producerslibrary.com/displayProduct1.do?product_id=8485&product_name=VM-0177_022


    http://www.movietone.com/. This one requires registration, but it is a quite simple one. The video windows are also small, but the image is always very clear. The thing is that they have the best collection I found. Some of their gems:

    Gonzales d Rosewall 1957, Muscles' professional debut:
    http://www.movietone.com/N_search.c...ject=rosewall&V_Year=1928&V_resultsPerPage=10

    Rosewall d Laver 1963 Madison Square Garden:
    http://www.movietone.com/N_search.c...osewall laver&V_Year=1928&V_resultsPerPage=10

    Mal Anderson d Pancho Segura 1959 Wembley:
    http://www.movietone.com/N_search.c...ubject=segura&V_Year=1928&V_resultsPerPage=10
     
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    Tennis has always been better than the last 10 years....
     
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    Is this why I'm getting an error? Because I'm not registered?
     
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    Yes, it does show a generic error message if you are not registered.
     
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    Maybe some of you will like to know that the Gaumont British archive, now owned by Reuters, was added to www.itnsource.com. It has some good tennis footage in newsreels from 1917 to 1952 - I think this includes all of them: http://www.itnsource.com/searchresu...rchTerm=&refineExcludeWords=&sortby=date&pn=9

    I was somewhat surprised by this newsreel of the 1947 Wimbledon finals, where in all his serves Kramer never follows directly to the net:
    http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//RTV/1947/07/07/BGU410230078/?s=jack+kramer

    And this newsreel has good close-ups of Tilden's serve and forehand: http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//RTV/1937/04/05/BGU407220383/?s=tilden
     
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    Fine Clips, Marcos. I haven't seen all of them yet, but it seems that one includes Lenglens revanche on Molla Mallory for her lone loss in all the twenties at the US 1921. She annihilated Molla love and love on the French Riviera the year later. Kramer is coming in, but obviously not after his serve. And regarding Tilden: He is wearing a colored shirt, some 40 years, before the all white rule was broken in international tennis.
     
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    That last match was amazing. McEnroe really showed that he was more than just a pure S&V player that match. He really displayed all of his skills that match. His return and backhand were phenomenal the first two sets.
     
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    Wood racquets don't hit that much slower than graphite racquets; the difference is the head size which allows graphite racquets to produce more spin, therefore allow players more control when they hit harder.
     
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    Grazie! Nice find...:)
     
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