Cleaned up and strung a Max 200G this past Saturday...

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  1. Bud

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    ...then used it all day Sunday.

    Man, I'd never played this stick with full gut strung at 43#. I knew from the first hit this racquet was something special.

    It reminds me so much of my PK 5G's... with the same solid, slightly muted, vibrationless feel.

    Sweet!!!

    I could use this racquet seamlessly with my 5G's they are so similar.

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    6 pts. HL.


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  2. Virginia

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    There's no doubt this is a truly magnificent racquet - I think probably one of my absolute favourites. I can never pass up the opportunity to buy one and in fact, now have ten of them! Four black originals (one of which I sanded down completely and repainted matt black all over, with no other graphics), three 200G Pro's and three of the newer blue/green models. I suppose I should take a family protrait sometime. I have bags for every one of them too.
     
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  3. Bud

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    This one is virtually new. The previous owner had wrapped the grip above the collar and when I removed and replaced the grip, it stripped the (very lousy) paint from the frame.

    The paint on these frames comes off if you just look at it :twisted:
     
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  4. v1rotate

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    That's the neatest head protector tape aplication I've seen anywhere. There's not one crease in the whole job.

    P.S. Nice Socks! (First Picture)
     
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  5. jorel

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    how is 13 oz similar to the 11.7 oz 5g??? (in Bizaro world maybe)

    but i agree. the max 200g is a sweet stick... i dont think my onehanded backhand ever had so much stick
     
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  6. Bud

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    Well, my 5G's are a tad heavier. I replace the stock grip with a TW thick leather grip and then re-balance them to stock (about 8 pts. HL) by adding lead at 3/9. They end up at about 12.5-12.6 oz. So, they are very close.
     
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  7. jorel

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    no desire to use the heavier 5g pro?
     
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  8. gsquicksilver

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    you strung it wrong. the 2 outer mains need to move 1 hole inside on the top end. bottom end of the outer mains is correct. the outer mains should have an angled look.
     
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  9. jorel

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    AGREE..........
     
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    Nice Job ! Looks just like my rackets as I also like those TW leather grips, or fairways, and nat gut at low tensions, I usually dont go that low but that will really magnify the feel. I also like that thin black elastic head tape all accross the upper hoop. The power pads also enhances the classic look, add some tremlings to really make it classic :)
     
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  11. plasma

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    you guys are an inspiration. The loss of grip shape is the one thing preventing my original 200g's (1st generation ) from top performance, can't wait to test drive an inexpensive tw leather grip!!!, will post pics once my max's are rejuvinated, head tape idea was also flawless idea, thanks for a valuable thread!!!
     
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  12. Bud

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    The PSE? I like customizing the weight distribution on the racquet. The PSE is too heavy stock for customizing.
     
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    Yes, there are two pieces of head tape on there... too easy to scrape up the tops of these babies :)
     
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  14. jorel

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    must really add some stability to the hoop as well... man im jeolous
     
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    McEnreo's rackets were strung as pictured. I thought the correct way is is the parellel outside main lines instead of the angled outside main lines.
     
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    Yes, I like them parallel, too!

    Don't like the 'correct' method with the two outside mains angling sharply inward.
     
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  17. mwitiiram

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    Do the Max 200G's hold value like the PS 85? I've got one in about 7/10 condition that I'd like to sell but I have no idea what would be a fair asking price. Suggestions?
     
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  18. Mick

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    i bought this new max 200g racquet. the previous owner told me he could not bring himself to string this racquet, so he sent me the string in addition to the racquet. i could not bring myself to string the racquet either :)
     
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  19. jimbo333

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    An unstrung new 200G is a beautiful thing for sure:)

    But what about the feeling of hitting a freshly strung 200G? Maybe even better:):)
     
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    like the old saying "a mind is terrible thing to waste ..". Therefore, string it and play it.
     
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  21. Bud

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    I have that problem with my grommetless Slazenger Phantom... they are pretty rare now and it's never been strung.
     
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  22. plasma

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    I get these things to play with because the feeling and experience of playing with them is unmatched...string em up!!!!! st. vincent will reward your selfless bravery with good racquet Karma....I cherry popped a new kneissl masters 10! and my sweet black fischer superform is about to loose her innocence tommorow when the worlds fastest stringer, a man who calls himself the "Doctor" ("racquet doctor", otherwise Plasma prefers a female practitioner!) (this is not a joke, he is a speed stringing champion, I've seen it, it looks like bull riding/ performance art/ live painting/ racquet tecking) comes over to Plasmas crib tomorrow to help devirginized some more vintage stock...
    everything in the plasma collection eventually sees the court...

    party like a Rockstar!!!!
     
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  23. Mick

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    i understand what you guys are saying but the feeling of having some unused/never strung vintage racquets is pretty good too :)
     
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  24. plasma

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    make sure you swing them through the air in the middle of the night. I still have some reigonal championship trophies from decades ago that I credit to visualization, watching videos set to relaxing reggae music, and "shadow-stroking"...just like "shadow boxing" shadow stroking builds skill fast! best time to program the brain to remember things is right before sleep...tags don't seem to be of any value to other collectors but I love and cherish them, retro tags on a new unstrung racquet increase the "time machine effect" to a quantum level!!!
     
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  25. Mick

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    should i swing the racquets with the covers on or off :confused:
     
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  26. jimbo333

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    If you leave the covers on then it can sometimes increase the swingweight:)
     
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  27. Mick

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    i was thinking maybe the covers should stay on to create the illusion that you are returning a hard hitting ball :D
     
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  28. plasma

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    no, defientely covers off, on some balls (25%) you do a freeze and make a wall out of your body to block the ball back, the rest of the time you want to hear the racquet whoosh through the air. Not with an arm swing though, with a pivot and the entire body as one unit (and the inner body moving first). It's about training co-ordination, looseness, awareness, momentum, balance. The micro adjustments and "WHOOOSH" needed can't be trained with a cover on the racquet. Much of the deadly training is also done in slow motion to awaken and train the inner stomach muscles to move the body instead of the back muscles ... holding a heavy weight far from your body will fry your arm and destroy your career overnight.To master tennis ( or Plasmas "deadly chicken Palm") requires technical perfection. Yet beyond the elusive and complex mechanics are certain non-mechanical intangibles (what the Plaz is currently focusing on). it has to do with the connection between body/mind/soul/karmic feng shui/intention. The deadly forehand can only be attained through meditation and training. The most ferocious champion was once an uncoordinated geek. Buddha bless you
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  29. eagle

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    Nice socks Bud. :)

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  30. Bud

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    Thanks!

    I KNEW someone would comment on the socks :)

    However, it took longer than I thought it would!
     
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  31. eagle

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    Just kidding Bud. :)

    So, do you plan to hit with the racquet?

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  32. Bud

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    Already have... it's sweet! :)
     
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  33. markwillplay

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    aaahhhh yea bud...sweet stick. I am still playing mostly with my 400i's. I don't have my old 200G (someone strung it too tight and it warped) but I wonder now how much they differ. My 400i's are weighted to 12.8 with overgrip at about 8 pts headlight. that is very close to what my 200G's were I think. I think maybe the 200G sliced better but I get a bit more spin I think with the 400i. there is nothing like the feel of those graphile injection dunlops to me. I picked up a couple yonex 002 tours for the modern thing and they have helped me with volleys, but, the control with the dunlop is superior any way you cut it.
     
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  34. markwillplay

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    by the way, I string my 400i's at 43-41 on constant pull machine and I don't think they would play as good much higher than that. I tried them at 47 on same machine and lost most of the feel.
     
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  35. Bud

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    I believe I strung this one is the mid 40's with NG.
     
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  36. markwillplay

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    yup sounds about right. The ball comes off with a bit more spin with the 400i becasue of pattern. that is one thing I used to really like about the 200G is that you could string it low but becaue of tight pattern, you had great control. Never a doubt as to where the ball was going if you struck it anywhere near the middle. I just got so exited reading this thread and seeing that stick that I ordered two thicker leather grips for my 400i's. Enjoy...I bet your serve is on a dime as well.
     
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  37. jimbo333

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    Have you ever tried the 300i? That's been my usual racquet for the last 2 years. I have found nothing better:)

    Suppose the only weakness is for volleys, but luckily I'm a good volleyer, so this doesn't matter:):)
     
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  38. markwillplay

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    what is the difference in 300i and 400i? Never seen a 300i
     
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    Timely post -- I have a minty 400i en route. I was wondering about what to do regarding tension. I think I will go low on this one, even though the "recommended" tension per USRSA is 50-60 pounds. Thanks!
     
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    Nice one!

    I still have 3, only 1 is in as nice shape as yours.

    One of the true holy grails.....
     
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  41. jimbo333

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    The 300i is stiffer than the 400i, also 300i has slightly smaller head. I've always thought that the 200G sort of came in between these 2, in terms of stiffness. I prefer the 300i:)
    The point you made about string tension is really important I think with all of these IMF racquets. I agree completely, do not string them too tight:):)
     
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  42. markwillplay

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    good grief, the 400i seems to be about 85 or so...300i less than that? I imagine tht stiffer is relative (ha ha). I bet none of these sticks is over 55 flex..mine are 47 and 43 (that one may be older)
     
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  43. Virginia

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    Most of them are 43 and the original 200G Pro (2 green stripe model) is 32.
     
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    Bud, what kind of NG is strung in there?
     
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  45. Bud

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    It's Ace Play oily gut :lol:

    Somehow, I think you knew that.
     
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  46. SOY78

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    I knew it looked familiar ;)
     
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    looks like a midsize from a black and white movie, dull muted matching color palette, somewhat stealth
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    her sister the 200g seemed friendlier, I tried to kick it with her but she seemed really stiff and stuck up; not one to hang out where I unwanted I decided to move on...
     
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    Good to see my friends out there enjoying the sun:)

    And it's really important to string not too tight, well below recommended 55, I'd definitely go lower than 50. Then the ball just sticks to the racquet, and flys exactly where you want it:):)
     
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    Agreed... NG at 50# or less and the racquet is one sweet piece of graphite :oops:
     
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  50. plasma

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    those amazing and precise flex specs describe the word of difference I sensed between the 2 stripe and later editions. Thanks so much, Virginia...
    with later versions the ball just goes Meshuginah...???...but with the soft one, it like a slow cream cheese shmear....only it's not just the shmear, you get the whole bagel covered in cream cheese. On an original water bagel mind you! now that's a good thing...
     
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