Clemson Tiger tennis

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  1. Clemson_tennis

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    Ansari breaks! 4-3
     
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    That's one helluva win. Last year we would have folded there for sure. Harrington might close this out for 5-2
     
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    Nice win for your guys. I thought with Dom Maden out Auburn would get you - I was definitely incorrect.
     
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    Doubles was tough. Ansari and Wibowo led 3-0 but dropped it 7-9 and that ended up being the decider. Disappointing Dom Maden could not play again because that would have been a great doubles match at #1, #10 Maden bros vs #1 Mies/Cochrane.

    Singles: (Clemson won all but 4)

    1: 83 Yannick Maden def 106 Andreas Mies 6-3 6-2
    Very good performance from Maden here. Last year Mies dominated Maden and kept Maden back-peddling. I was impressive with Mies then but I am not any longer. He has regressed, He has no plan on court and is not a natural tennis athlete. Maden was far more solid and controlled the court all match.

    2: Hunter Harrington def Daniel Cochrane 7-5 3-6 6-3
    These players are pretty much mirror images of one another. Harrington has the bigger and more versatile forehand though and controlled the majority of the points. Went down a break in the 3rd at 1-0 and this was when Ansari trailed at 6, 3-2. That was a dicey few minutes where it looked like Auburn may come from behind and pull it out. But Harrington buckled down and played solid throughout the 3rd.

    3: Gerardo Meza def 120 Lukas Ollert 6-4 6-1
    Very solid win. Ollert is a good good player. Very quick and great footwork, legs always churning. But gets too defensive sometimes and Meza was able to push him around. Meza also did a very nice job of closing at the net when the opportunity presented itself, not something that is usually his strength but he did it well today and it won him a lot of points with Ollert glued near the wall.

    4: Dennis Lengsfield def Ayrton Wibowo 6-2 6-0
    Classic Wibowo terrible display.

    5: Zac Rigsby def Lucas Lopasso 6-2 6-0
    Last year Rigsby got beat by Lopasso 6-2 6-1 and a complete about face this year. I didnt see a lot of this match to see why Rigsby was doing so well.

    6: Austin Ansari def Joseph Van Dooren 6-3 3-6 6-3
    Austin won the first set and I was expected another roll through the 2nd as he has been doing all this season. But Van Dooren dug in and caused Ansari's level to drop. I went over and watched the whole 3rd set. The beginning of the set was intense. Both guys throwing their bodies around and making ridiculous gets. It;s times like these where you realize how ridiculously fit college tennis players are. On one of the changovers Van Dooren told his coach "I can't feel my legs". Down 2-3 Ansari started to push the action more. Chose his spots and hit a few winners from the baseline and made some great net closes. His finished at the net proved to be huge. He was more aggressive and took the break at 4-3. He put his foot on the pedal and at that point Van Dooren was out of it and didn't threaten to break back at all. Ansari gets his first big clinch of his career.
     
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    Clemson women lost two to Florida and Stanford. Ambitious scheduling there.
     
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    Wisconsin beat Minnesota! That will boost the Badgers ranking higher, which will give Clemson a more quality win. We are still Wisconsin's lone loss.
     
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    If I am reading the ITA manual correctly this is how Clemson should look tomorrow in the rankings:

    4 countable wins for February 24th period.

    at #21 Auburn, 61 points + 10% for away = 67.1
    # 38 Louisville, 44 points = 44
    #55 Alabama, 30 points = 30
    at #64 Dartmouth, 25 points + 10% away = 27.5
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    loss to #8 Georgia = .2
    168.6 / (countable wins + points from losses, which is 4.2)
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    40.142

    Looking at last years rankings a score of 40.142 is good enough for around 14-19 in the rankings.
     
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    That'd be one heck of a jump - did you look at any other teams to see what they'd look like to see if it adds up as well?
     
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    yes. I'll post it in the rankings thread.
     
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    looks like the ITA didn't give the away boosts. My final total had them in, their total of 38.02 is without the away boosts.
     
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    How's that outdoor facility looking these days? With that ranking, you can now officially start to whisper the H-word.
     
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    Long way from that. With this ranking teams will be gunning for us, looking at us at a good chance to boost their own ranking. Especially teams like UNC,South Carolina,FSU,VT. Opposite of last year where we were the hunter.

    But the facility is ready if the H word comes into play. ;)
     
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    Yannick Maden goes up to 57. He has a chance in two weeks to get a big individual win vs Rafael Aita. Winning that would really help him cement his spot in the individual tournament at the end of the year.


    I hope Dom Maden can come back soon. The Maden's bros at #1 doubles would be competitive with anyone in the nation and gives us a great chance at the doubles point in every match. He is also a more solid 4 than Wibowo. Not anymore talented than Wibowo but far more mentally stable and has more desire to win. Last year D Maden came back from 6-3 3-0 down against Chip Cox to win the match. Wibowo never digs that deep. If things are going badly for him, they keep going badly. Also with Dom Maden out we are one ding injury away from having to put Blaho at 6, which is something that would rather be avoided.
     
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    What is the approx cutoff for individual tournament?
     
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    60-ish. Depends on how many "Conference champions" can make it into the Top 125.
     
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    ClemsonTennis, will you make the trip to Columbia on Sunday? I'll have to miss the match live, which stinks because I was looking forward to wearing my Charlotte Tennis Academy shirt, which is where me and your assitant coach John Boetsch grew up.
     
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    I will absolutely be there. And hopefully all the Gamecock fans will be at baseball so there is no home court advantage. I remember last time we went to Columbia 2 years ago there were literally like 5 Gamecock fans there at the courts.
     
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    You will enjoy the new facility. It is great to sit just above the baseline in any court you want. Have fun.
     
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    Assuming the match is outdoor, which is not a guarantee right now
     
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    match is sunday in Columbia at 1

    Last year The gamecocks came into Clemson and beat us 4-3, Ivan Machado outlasted Gerardo Meza in an epic deciding match. They lost Nick Jones and Ivan Machado from last year and added Tsethov Mihov. Basically the same team talent level as last year. Their best win this year is over #38 NC State. Have lost to #15 Texas and #26 VCU as well as a bad loss to #55 Michigan State.

    potential match ups vs Clemson: (Clemson player listed first)

    Doubles will be 50/50. The winner of doubles will have a big advantage.

    singles:

    1: 57 Yannick Maden vs 106 Tsvetan Mihov
    Mihov is a transfer from Oklahoma. For the Sooners he was a mediocre 3/4 player in their line-up. Now I'm supposed to buy that he is a legit and solid #1 player. The only reason he is ranked is because he beat #53 Juan Spir of GT, when Spir was going through one of his signature "I can't play tennis" phase. Maden has been rolling, he has 3 straight easy wins over ranked players. I expect Maden to win. I do not know how Mihov plays as I have never seen him play before.

    2: Hunter Harrington vs Andrew Adams
    Adams is one of the worst sports in college tennis but has a good forehand that he can hit consistently. Harrington will be able to move him around with his first strike tennis. Adams is not a defensive player and will be uncomfortable having to play defense vs Harrington.

    3: Gerardo Meza vs Chip Cox
    Interesting matchup. In one way it favors Cox because he takes the ball early and will press Meza. Meza was able to work Ollert of Auburn all around the court because Ollert was playing in an adjacent county at times. But Cox stays close to the baseline. In another way in favors Meza because Cox is not good on the move and Meza's solid groundstroke angles will cause Cox to have to move around everywhere.

    4: Ayrton Wibowo vs Thiago Pinheiro
    Pinheiro is a very good player. Lefty from Brazil who has a good mix of power and spin. He can hit his forehand in many different ways. Wibowo(assuming D Maden will be still be out) may have one of his good days or he may not. Who knows.

    5: Zac Rigsby vs Kyle Koch
    Last season Koch beat Rigsby 6-2 6-2. Can Rigsby do another about face matches like he did vs Auburn. Similar thing as last year. Against Auburn Rigsby played Lucas Lopasso who he lost to 6-2 6-1 last year. This year he beat Lopasso 6-2 6-0. Is a similiar turn around coming? Likely not, but it also won't be a Koch rout. I expect a close match.

    6: Austin Ansari vs Harry Menzies
    Easy Ansari win. #6 is the Gamecock's weakness and quickly becoming the Tiger's strength.


    the good news is all the fans will be at baseball so there won't be much of a home-court atmosphere for the Gamecocks.
     
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    It will be interesting to see what happens at number 1 then as Mihov beat Junior Ore from A&m in straight sets yesterday
     
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    Ore is the lamb at 1 these days.
     
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    I just saw that your prediction on the site turned out to be correct. The CU v USC match is indoors today. Dubs will be huge for this match.
     
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    Twitter tells me the Gamecocks won the dubs point with victories at 1 and 2.
     
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    I think Clemsontennis's prediction at #1 will be dead wrong. Little fun here. With the doubles loss that now means you'll need to depend on 4 wins from #'s 2-6. Let the uphill battle begin.
     
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    Harrington lost 6-4 6-2
    Meza up 7-5 5-4
    Wibowo and Maden in 3rd sets
     
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    Yannick Maden up 3-1 in 3rd
     
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    Meza just broke cox to win 7-5 6-4
     
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    Clemson takes 1 and 3. Gamescocks take 2 and 4 and dubs. USC up 3-2 with 5 and 6 to go.
     
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    The difference ended up being Wibowo leading 6-4 3-1 and had chances for 4-1 but lost his advantage and then Pinheiro took over.
     
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    This is an example of how having a higher rank is tough. Teams are ready for us now. SC was ready. In fact they apparently sent out emails and stuff to students during the week about the match, effectively tanking the A&M match and getting ready for us. South Carolina is not any better than Auburn or Alabama but Auburn was not ready for us. We were able to go into Auburn and take it to them. Not so easy to do now with a high rank. Team is going to have to work harder.
     
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    "They're still $hitty" (in subtitles)

    - field crew, Major League
     
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    Who is? SC?
     
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    William & Mary today. I don't know why we play this team each year.
    Dom Maden could be back today but probably not. Smarter to wait for Wilmington or even Miami and FSU.
     
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    I don't know why either. Could it be because they used to be a regular in the top 75?
     
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    W&M is bad this year - think they've had a lot of injuries. Georgia rolled them up 7-0 yesterday winning every match in straights with our 7, 8, and 9 guys playing at 4, 5, and 6.
     
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    It's a shame that Whiteford has had such injury issues. He is a good player, could be top 50 in country. He beat Jarmere Jenkins last year in the fall. But looks like he is out for the season just like he was last year.
     
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    Only went down to 20 in the rankings.
     
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    Not the most impressive win in the world today. Meza and Wibowo were caught in battles. Also Harrington had real trouble winning the first set.
     
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    UNC Wilmington tomorrow. At the beginning of the year this was a well scheduled match when they were in the 30s and we were lower. Bit now it's just dangerous as hell. UNCW is the best unranked in the nation. With good doubles and a good #1. Clemson must be ready. UNCW will see this as their last chance to get a big win for their ranking (only other chance vs VCU later).

    Good chance for Yannick Maden to get a big singles win vs #22 Aita.
     
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    Dom Maden is back
     
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    The Madens bros def #15 UNCW doubles team 8-2. Good comeback from injury. However UNCW won 2 and 3 doubles.
     
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    Match tied at 2. Courts 2,3,6 all going to 3rd sets.
     
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    Got the win 5-2. Strong finish from meza, Ansari and Harrington.
    Yannick Maden got a big win for his ranking, 6-2 6-4 over #22 Aita.
     
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    Clemson 5, UNC Wilmington 2

    I was worried about this match. I knew UNCW would be ready to pull an upset and they certainly came to play.

    Doubles:

    1: Maden bros def 15 Blank/Cooprider 8-2
    It's a joy to see Dom Maden back. Forgot how good he and his brothers chemistry is in doubles. Dom is a phenomenonal doubles player. Can hit a lot of shots that the other side dosent expect. The real question is why did it take two years to put the Madens together in doubles.

    2 and 3 doubles was all UNCW at the start. They came out firing and going for it. Clemson fought back on both courts but came up short. Hard to rally from 1-5 down.

    Singles:

    1: 57 Yannick Maden def 22 Rafael Aita 6-2 6-4
    Best win of the year for Maden rankings wise. Great boost to the ranking. Aita looked very strong early, using his cross court forehand to dominate points. But Maden used angles and variety to throw Aita off and really Aira was never in the match after the early break. 4th straight set win for Maden over a ranked opponent in the spring(also had one in fall vs Saba) where a set didn't event get to 7-5. (Also over Mies,O'Shaughnessey and Stieflemeyer)

    2: Gerardo Meza def Chris Cooprider 6-3 5-7 6-0
    Meza retook the #2 slot from Harrington. Probably a good switch going forward. Cooprider is a 5'7 fast guy but has decent firepower as well. At 5-6 30-30 with meza serving, Cooprider made a dubious call on the sideline away from the ref chair. Not overruled and gave Cooprider the set point. He won the set amongst boos from crowd. In the 3rd the crowd and Meza really gave Cooprider a tough time. He became demoralized and Meza despite always looking physically worn, was fresher and his shots seemed to have even more zip than usual. This match ended up finishing last.

    3: Hunter Harrington def Sam Williams 7-5 2-6 6-4
    Harrington played 3 for the first time this season. Sam Williams is 6'6 with a one hand backhand. Has decent movement and net ability for a big guy as well. Harrington trailed in the 3rd set 0-3. This is when things were looking dicey for a Clemson win. Harrington down 0-3, Ansari at 1-1 in 3rd and meza just losing the 2nd set. But out of nowhere Harrington won 5 straight games, at the same time Meza was in the midst of winning a 6-0 3rd set. Impressive close by both players.

    4: Kosta Blank def Dom Maden 6-1 6-3
    While Dom looked like he hadn't missed a beat in doubles, singles reminded everyone of how much time he has missed. His shots were fine but poor tactics and not quite the right movement did him in here. Signs if rust. Wibowo may have been a better idea in singles for today but then again gives Maden a couple of getting back into it matches (another vs Miami coming up) to prepare for FSU.

    5: Zac Rigsby def Kaue Perreira 6-2 6-4
    Good win for Rigsby. Perreira had some nice wins on his résumé including one over Koch. Rigsby lead 6-2 5-2, but Perreira made a slight run and broke for 4-5 with a great passing shot and a loud Vamooooo! But Rigsby broke right back and took the match right there before any rally could gain steam.

    6: Austin Ansari def Zachary Hublitz 6-1 3-6 6-4
    Ansari steamrolled through the first set and everyone expected a routine win. But the lefty Hublitz upped his game and forced Ansari to change tactics a bit. In the 3rd Ansari buckled down and got the line break he needed and was not threatened on his own serve. Ansari had about 10 break points on the 3rd while he faced 0 making the 6-4 score a little misleading.
     
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    Drop from 20 to 25. Due to the teams we beat previously, falling a bit in the rankings.

    Yannick Maden up to 41 from 57.

    Maden brothers doubles up to 11 from 20.
     
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    Vs Miami today.

    This should be routine I don't see many places Miami can bother us. Clemson should win 1,5,6 easy. 4 could be for Miami if Dom Maden is still adjusting. 2 and 3 should be Clemson as well but Flores and Gonzalez are good and could put up a fight.
     
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    Gonna be a rough one for us but you never know until you play the games. That being said, can we just concede the dubs point and go straight to the singles? lol
     
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    Zac Rigsby play doubles with Austin Ansari again. I think Wibowo would pair better with Rigsby at 2.
     
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    Geez, courts 1-3 all down 0-3 early.
     

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