CNBC article on Sharapova racquet

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    Thanks for sharing.
     
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    I wonder if Rovell was peaking around on here...
     
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    I believe it is a Youtek Head Radical Pro

    And thanks OP, for the link. Found 2 more interesting articles written by Rovell. Didn't think he would know this much about the tennis racquet industry. He definitely has done his research. I don't find anything wrong with his findings.

    His knowledge about Verdasco and Berdych's racquet troubles/issues is pin-point for sure.
     
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    Ohhh Prince... Good try but do you actually believe anyone buys that?

    i.e he has definitely searched these boards?
     
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    anyone know what racquet sharapova was using the day before... looked like a thin box beam... dare i say... a 6.0 85 paintjob
     
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    The things companies will do for marketing...
     
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    Is tennis the only sport in which the equipment companies consistantly lie to their consumers about the products their atheletes endorse?
     
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    well i think golf got in trouble a few years ago when the ball thtat the company was selling said a pro was using was actually a different ball they were selling
     
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    Really? I'm thinking that it's just the MP version (due to the white grommet)
     
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    The YouTek Radical Pro also have white grommets. In addition it her racquet have a larger headsize than the MP. It is in my very lowly opinion that Maria Sharapova is using the YouTek Radical Pro.
     
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    You're right i think..
    One of my best clients uses Youtek Radical Pro racquets and the shape is the same as sharapova racquets.
    The stringer they interviewed doesn't got a clue about racquets because the said it was a prestige :lol: Prestige racquets don't have 100'' headsize and the fact that the racquet has 8 holes in the throat proves that it's a Radical Pro. It's a 16x19 racquet with 8 holes in the throat and the tieoff of the mains it's on the top of the racquet.
     
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    I also found this statement very amusing by the un-named stringer.
    Where exactly are the custom strips over the C.A.P. System Grommets? LOL
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    dude knows his rackets :shock:
     
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    Funny thing is....some years ago when Prince put out the "Experimental" frame which later became the NRG. All the pros played blacked out frames with "Experimental" on them. They were the rage on the boards. Everyone had to have one.

    The pros were also stenciled.......

    The truth is out there...
     
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    Good memory! That was back at 2003 U.S. Open when Prince was trying to create buzz over the new NRG and the Diablo. Prince just blacked out the Original Graphite Longbody for guys like Coria and Ferrero. Also Prince Blacked out the Retro Precision for players like Capriati and Malisse. But they did have experimental and Prince written on them with a Prince stencil on the strings.
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    Capriati with her Retro Precision Blacked-out to create buzz for the release of the Tour Diablo.

    That can't be done with Sharapova's racquets because they are not Prince racquets. Sharapova is using the HEAD YouTek Radical Pro.
     
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    The reason Maria has no "P" for the stencil is because of the string she is using. The mains being black, with the crosses being white, would make it difficult to do the stencil, as it won't be visible.

    As for the frame, like vsbabolat, I too would like to know what the stringer meant when he/she said they placed "custom strips" over the grommet strip.
     
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    You can look at the photos. There is no C.A.P. Grommets and no strips of any kind on Sharapova's racquet. Just the white teflon HEAD traditional grommets on her HEAD racquet. That stringer did not know what he/she was talking about.
     
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    ^^Agree. Also, a I was watching a match of hers a few weeks ago at a friends house who has a enormous flat screen, which is super duper high quality. We froze it, when they showed a closeup of her butt cap. It is definitely a Head butt cap, blacked out.
     
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    Should be OK to do, Andy Roddick uses black mains at his lines are very visible.
     
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    very different stencil. (By the way, Roddick has gone back to his old string set-up of BHT/Natural Gut. He is no longer using RPM Blast).

    As stringer, I would know. To do this stencil (on Marias Frame), one would need to use Silver stencil, and quite frankly it is barely visible.
     
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    so Prince is going to try to get some old school feel back in their frames to make their contract players happier. Sharapova is telling them "I need something exactly like This (points to Head racquet)."
     
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    It really is sad and pretty disgusting if you think about it, having to hide the truth from the very people who are keeping you in business. Lying is a poor business strategy, but I guess it works for many tennis manufacturers.

    Are there any honest tennis racquet companies out there?
     
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    I am thinking Vantage. The rest are all involved in the paint job game. They have down now to a 2 year cycle for the latest and greatest technology that will transform your game.
     
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    “She will be using some experimental frames over the next few months in practice and in competition. We are well aware that some of the frames she may be using may include racquets that Prince does not carry in its current line. That is part of our program. During this phase of experimentation, she may or may not stencil, but she is a Prince contracted player. We are using one of our marquee athletes to play test, under match conditions, products to help future offerings.”

    Right, why would professional athletes "experiment" with the new frames during competition? Esp when it could be your career.

    Sounds like a load of BS to me.
     
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    Agreed. Even lowly Pro Kennex paint-jobs their only visible pro's (Seppi) frames.
     
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    Just for sake of total correctness, I believe is was NXG not NRG. Typo, I assume.
     
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    That isn't quite correct. While there are some issues with stenciling black strings, that isn't the reason she isn't sporting one. The reason is that she isn't actually using a racquet made by that company, and stenciling would expose Prince legally, as has happened before in some previous racquet fiascos. Prince is just playing it slightly safe at this point.
     
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    Roddick was using RPM blast in the mains in his loss to Tipsarevic. But, it doesn't matted, as RPM Blast and PHT are THE SAME STRING.
     
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    ahh, thanks for pointing that out.

    To add, there is no issues stencilling an all black string job. The issue comes in when stringing a hybrid (black strings with white strings).

    If you apply the stencil in a dark color (black/red), it will only effect the white string.

    If you apply the stencil in a light color (white/silver), it will only effect the black string.

    Wasn't aware he switched back to the RPM nor noticed. Perhaps this is why he lost. :)
     
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    OP, thanks for the link.

    I don't mind the pros playing custom rackets based on something produced by the company they have the endorsement contract with; but when it's from another company, that's not right.
     
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    Hey Pug, that's the funniest sig line I have ever seen.
     
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    for those who are asking about other sports, hockey is a traditional PJ type of industry as well

    Stick are often a certain mold then painted with the most relevant graphic, curves are custom and nothing you can buy in the store,

    skates may have an outer cosmetic yet and completely different set up or package under it...

    keep in mind, these sticks go for $200 and skates $500..a pair of skates per season and about a dozen sticks...
     
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    I think we're forgetting that she has suffered badly from shoulder injuries and the pro is quite a soft racquet, so it's a reasonable thing for her to do and it's sensible of Prince to approve of it.
     
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    No...I meant (wrongly) NRG. I guess I got string confused with frame. :) Thanks for the catch.


    I've heard that Prince may be in a spot of trouble from a business standpoint. A high up formerly with Volkl has moved to Prince. I'm not sure of the name, but can ask.

    It would seem the whole O-port line is not moving as well as Prince had hoped.
     
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    They seem to find themselves in trouble every few years. Then again, the entire racquet biz is in some trouble...too many players, not enough buyers, and the price point is absurdly low.
     
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    Yes, but for some obscure reason, pro stock hockey gear is widely and easily available in some e-stores. And it's usually cheaper than retail :confused:. For example, http://www.prostockhockeygear.com/ .

    All the opposite in tennis :(
     
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    Prince is an innovation leader, but their contempt for their own customers is pretty embarrassing.

    To think that they could so blatantly lie about this issue is just sad.

    It's telling that it's impossible to obtain "customer service" from the prince customer service department. They don't answer their phones OR reply to emails.

    Makes me want to switch rackets asap.
     
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    Thanks for posting the link. No stringer would say what the reporter has him saying; I'd bet the rent that he guessed that Sharapova was using a Prestige with traditional grommets substituted for CAP grommets, and the reporter garbled it when writing up his notes.

    That's not to say the stringer's guess is right. It looks like something out of the Rad Pro mold to me, too.
     
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    I don't see any lead on the racket, I wonder if she is playing it at the stock weight. She seems to hit as heavy a ball as anyone in the WTA.
     
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    I agree that it's odd, and a little disturbing, that so many intelligent people think it's OK to tell bald-faced lies as long as it's "just business".

    What's worse is that it's far from isolated to the tennis equipment industry. I fear that it is close to a universal attitude that the "truth" one tells to customers is a different animal from the truth one owes friends and family.

    It's a crazy world. Somebody oughta sell tickets.
     
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    Prince is probably breathing a sigh of relief that Sharapova didnt make it too far or win the USO because how would they market that racquet?
     
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    i know the general nonsenses is that she's using a YT Radical Pro, but is the YT Speed MP 16x19 another possibility?
     
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    I don't know if you combined "general consensus" and "nonsense" on purpose or by accident, but well done. If two words ever belonged together, those two do. :)

    (Generally speaking, I mean. I am less than 100% sure of what Shriekapova is using.)
     
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    This is new news to me. Thanks for posting. Maria's playing style for some reason doesn't strike me as a controled midplus user. Her and the Williams sisters seem more like oversized baseline bashers. But the williams are now playing with k blade 98, maybe she feels she could benefit from the control too.
     
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    The Williams sisters are using the KBlade Team which is 104sq inches.
    http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Wilson_K_Factor_KBlade_Team/descpageRCWILSON-KBLADT.html
     
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    Hidious,

    If you are buying from a place like that its not real "pro-stock" oftentimes its a pro's name on it with a clone curve...and cheaper because there is no warranty...

    granted you can get overruns at team sales and places like Perani's..however most of the time if you are going to look for a Styles curve or specific stock # you will pay just like you do for an H22/TGK 2xx. etc...and need to 'scour the bay

    all the major retailers make their own version of pro-stock that is in essence just an SMU for them in special colors or with a slight change in materials ..it would be like if TW created a special run of pro-stock CB 2.3's that had a closed AirMax unit a la Rafa,

    Just wanted to make sure you aren't overspending for that stuff!!
     
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  49. Winky

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    I think this is much more likely than it being difficult to stencil her racquet because of the alternating string color. Even if it were next to impossible to make the stencil visible, Prince would insist upon it if they could. A little marketing is always better than none.
     
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    Thanks VS for the reminder. Vantage would be an option for conscientious tennis consumer. Maybe Donnay now?


    Maria played well with her "experimental" racquet, if only her serve could get better.
     
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