Colleges with American players?

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  1. tkoziol

    tkoziol Rookie

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    I was wondering if there were any teams that tend to avoid recruiting internationally or limit recruiting internationally. In my searches I can only find threads debating the pros and cons of the trend to recruit internationally. And further in depth as to why coaches do this. I've seen a few teams listed here and there. But it must be outdated, because the roster on the website shows majority international players.

    So far the best* team that I can find that has majority American players is Georgia. Are there any other major programs out there that strive to get American players?

    *top tier team with many tournament appearances
     
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  2. Clemson_tennis

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    You didn't look very hard. Virginia/UCLA/USC/Texas A&M/Illinois/Ohio State/Duke all have more Americans than international players. Texas is even.
     
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  3. treeman10

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    University of Alabama, current roster of nine has 8 Americans, ranked 34 at end of last year.
     
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  4. DaveKB

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    UVA will have 6 Americans in top 6 and only had one foreigner last year

    The recent and maybe always trend is that the traditional tennis powers attract all of the top Americans and the rest have to get foreigners and low level Americans, because there are not enough quality Americans to actually win in the NCAA's beyond the top 25 or maybe less ranked American guys.

    The new rules adopted a couple of years ago that restricts foreign players from playing college tennis is factor. It used to be that they first played the European club/pro circuit for a year to see how they do. In the old days they they could go full time pro or choose a 4 year college career in the states as a fall back. That has been eliminated or at least severely restricted. The significant change is that you only get three years of eligibility if you came to college after one year beyond when your HS class graduates.

    They can still come, but getting a college degree in 3 years is very tough to do, which is why many used to come here to play and they also had an all expenses paid (with at least a partial scholarship) training ground for tennis with a pro career still possible if you get better. Paying coaches, trainers, practice partners etc. and covering travel costs is a huge cost (I have seen estimates of up to $100,000 a year if you travel the world). Except for the portion of the scholarship cost you have to pay for everything else is "free" in college tennis.
     
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  5. Bdarb

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    I played NCAA d3. I had to sit through meetings with NCAA officials talking about if we ever took money for the sport we played on any level we were 'professionals' and our eligibilty was no good. For instance, a friend of mine could not run track or cc for my school because he had an endorsement deal with Adidas. How is being a pro tennis player somewhere else not contradicting this rule??
     
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  6. tennis7777777

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    USC had 4 foreign guys in the lineup last year.....Alabama had 3/4 foreign guys in the lineup last year too, this year will be different
     
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  7. kingcheetah

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    UVa is pretty much all domestic, and was last year (Mitchell Frank, Alexander Domijan, Mac Styslinger etc.)
     
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  8. Jonny S&V

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    As long as you only take money up until your expenses, you are still an amateur. Once you start pocketing prize money or accept a paid endorsement is when they question you eligibility.
     
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  9. Bdarb

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    gotcha, must be a ***** to enforce. Even getting something like a 'player package' discount would seem like a gray area to me just going based on what they told me in those meetings.
     
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  10. Jonny S&V

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    I mean, players barely break even at these tourneys, and if they do, they're doing well. Some even inflate their costs so they can use some money at the next tournament in-case they don't do as well.
     
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