Comparing Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic since 2009

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  1. McEnroeisanartist

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    Since 2009, Federer has won 19 titles, 3 on clay, 2 on grass, 7 on hard, and 7 indoor. Nadal has won 19 titles, 14 on clay, 4 on hard, 1 on grass, and 0 indoor. Djokovic has won 20 titles, 4 on clay, 13 on hard, 1 on grass, and 2 indoor.

    Remarkable that old man Federer has kept pace with his younger rivals. Also remarkable that Nadal has not won a single indoor tournament.
     
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  2. Evan77

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    well, kudos to Rog for sure. Not surprised with Nadal. Indoor is his weakest surface. I don't think he'll ever win anything indoor. Djoko peaked in 2011, his 2009/10 season was very mediocre (no slams, no big wins, lost his serve completely because of that stupid racket change etc.)
     
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  3. RF20Lennon

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    Completely agree!!!!
     
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  4. Nathaniel_Near

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    Novak Djokovic, the beast of hard courts.
     
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  5. Evan77

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    yeah, I guess you can call him that. I'd say he is the king of slow to medium H.C. Fast HC don't even exist any more :twisted:
     
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    Barely. Dubai and Cincinnati both faithfully remain fast court tournaments.
     
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  7. batz

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    Both are quite remarkable, agreed. Rafa has only won 1 indoor tournament in his entire career.

    I'm going to throw Murray's numbers into the ring as well: 16 titles, 13 on hard, 3 on grass - 2 indoor. Murray with the most grass titles since 2009.

    Hard: Noel
    Clay: Rafa
    Indoor: Roger
    Grass:Murray

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  8. batz

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    EDIT Doublepost
     
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  9. helloworld

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    How many slams did Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic won since 2009?
     
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  10. batz

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    All of them apart from 2.
     
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  11. NadalAgassi

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    Nadal 6
    Djokovic 4
    Federer 4
     
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  12. RAFA2005RG

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    The slam comparison is obviously all that matters-
    Nadal 6 (3rg, 1ao, 1uso, 1wim)
    Djokovic 4 (2ao, 1wim, 1uso)
    Federer 4 (2wim, 1ao, 1rg)
     
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  13. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Wow. And Nadal is the only player of that lot to win at least one of each slam since 2009, proving he is technically more diverse than Federer/Djokovic.
     
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    When all the courts play almost equally slow it's easier to win with a 1-dimensional game, no?
     
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  15. beast of mallorca

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    So thats why Federer amassed the 17 Slams he's had. Hmmmmm :twisted::twisted:
     
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    Think Murray is contesting Nole for king of Hard, particularly after winning the USO, and the fact that Murray is 4-3 against Djokovic on hard (including indoor that is). I'm not too convinced by the differentiation between HC indoor/outdoor, particularly when considering Murray vs Djoker
     
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    last time I checked Federer was already winning slams in 2003, how did Hafa do out of clay before 2008 again?
     
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  18. Tammo

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    Make Fed's clay titles 2, Madrid this year was a fluke...
     
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    I am sorry but unlike the other 3, Murray hasn't won Wimbledon. So that kinda undermines his case for grass superiority.
     
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  20. wy2sl0

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    Why even say that when it isn't true?

    If anything Roger and Novak play well everywhere, whereas when Nadal doesn't have the elements outdoors to even the playing field he generally gets lit up.

    See, I can do that too - the difference is my statement is true and everyone knows it.
     
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  21. RAFA2005RG

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    I know, it is truly staggering that a clay court specialist became the 2nd youngest man ever to win the Career Grand Slam.
     
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  22. McEnroeisanartist

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    It is staggering that in the period after Federer's reign and in the middle of Nadal's prime that only 2 Grand Slams separate them.
     
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  23. RAFA2005RG

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    Federer's 4 slams:
    2009 RG - Rafa injured, would go on to skip Wimbledon
    2009 WIM - Rafa skipped it
    2010 AO - Rafa retired from QF with injury
    2012 WIM - Rafa lost 2nd Round and skipped Olympics/US Open

    Not really staggering. Very understandable.
     
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  24. DolgoSantoro

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    More diverse over a span of a few years, you ignore the previous years (except 2008) where he couldn't but a slam off clay
     
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  25. augustobt

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    Nadal's Majorss:

    2009 Australian Open - Federer mentally tired;
    2010 Roland Garros - Federer out in the QF, mentally very tired
    2010 Wimbledon - Federer out in the QF, way too mentally tired
    2010 US Open - Federer mentally exhausted
    2011 Roland Garros - Federer didn't took it seriously
    2012 Roland Garros - Injured Federer lost in the SF, went to tank against Haas in Halle to prove that.

    You see, using your logic is ridiculous.
     
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  26. RAFA2005RG

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    Mentally tired or just not talented enough?
     
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  27. sunof tennis

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    Keep trying. Yes, the only slam Fed didn't win during that time period was the US Open which he only won 5 times in a row.
    Thanks for playing though. Next.
     
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  28. augustobt

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    Mentally tired. You see that in the same year, Federer kicked Soderling, Nadal and Djokovic's asses in the World Tour Finals, the fifth more prestigious event in the tour.
     
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    You forgot to mention that he was just a few points away from doing it, and winning all 4 majors in a row - something that Nadal's was never able to even get that close in his prime.
     
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    Federer keeping pace with players 5 years his junior, lol. Even after his prime he is still good enough to be the current #1.

    Also those title counts tell me: Federer is the most all around player, Nadal is a clay court specialist, and Djokovic is a hard court specialist. (of course great players can win on any surface but its clear by looking at the number of titles on each surface where one is comfortable).
     
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    But since 2003, Federer has won 2 slams 5 times each or more, and 3 slams 4 times each or more.

    Nadal? Can't even get to 3 on his second best slam :lol:
     
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  32. beast of mallorca

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    Fed is always "mentally tired" against Rafa ? Hmmmm,so he becomes Verdasco when playing Rafa huh. Interesting. You might have something there buddy :shock:
     
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    Please dont bring in this lame logic/argument to this thread.

    Do we really need to bring up Nadals record 6 consecutive final losses (3 being grand slams) to Djokovic????
     
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  34. merlinpinpin

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    Absolutely not. This was by far the worst ownage *in world history*, so please let's not go into this and remember :) RNadal :) as a mentally-tough competitor.
     
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  35. beast of mallorca

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    Tell that to Augustbobt. I'm just echoing what he said, Bob.
     
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  36. augustobt

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    I'm just using the NSK/3-1-0/etc logic. Of course I don't see things that way, I do have a brain.
     
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  37. beast of mallorca

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    Good for you kiddo!
     
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  38. TMF

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    Slams are the most important but WTF, ranking and other stats are important too.
     
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  39. TMF

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    Nadal chose the wrong sport. He should have chosen golf instead.
     
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  40. NDFM

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    some stats always manage to turn into a federer vs nadal argument. Surprised someone said federer wasn't talented enough, quite the opposite actually
     
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  41. RF20Lennon

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    I see RAFA2005RG has joined the likes of NSK (assuming he isnt one of the accounts), Bullzilla(same thing)
     
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  42. RF20Lennon

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    LMAO did you just say Federer wasnt talented enough????
     
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  43. Evan77

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    that 'someone' is your typical member of 'Nadall troll brigade' aka as NSK/6:1/Bullzila etc', so I wouldn't put too much into it :).
     
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