Comparing Sampras, Federer, and Nadal and Their Ranking

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  1. McEnroeisanartist

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    Comparing Sampras, Federer, and Nadal and their ranking:

    # of year end finishes ranked # 1
    Sampras 6
    Federer 5
    Nadal 2

    # of year end finishes ranked top 2


    Sampras 6
    Federer 8
    Nadal 7


    # of year end finishes ranked top 3

    Sampras 9
    Federer 9
    Nadal 7


    # of years ranked# 1 at some point during the year

    Sampras 8
    Federer 7
    Nadal 4



    # of years ranked top 2 at some point during the year
    Sampras 9
    Federer 9
    Nadal 8


    # of years ranked top 3 at some point during the year
    Sampras 10
    Federer 10
    Nadal 8



    Consecutive years never falling out of being ranked #
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    Sampras 1
    Federer 3
    Nadal 0


    Consecutive years never falling out of top 2
    Sampras 2
    Federer 6
    Nadal 3


    Consecutive years never falling out of top 3
    Sampras 6
    Federer 7
    Nadal 4
     
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  2. Joehax

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    So these players have around 27 years each in the top 3?

    Pretty impressive :p
     
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  3. ledwix

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    "at some point during the year" is an overrated stat to me. Roddick was #1 in two different seasons, but he was only #1 for a few weeks.
     
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  4. NadalAgassi

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    I think spending time at #1 in a year after ending #1 should only count if either:

    1. The player is still ranked there at mid point of the year (eg- going into Wimbledon). In the event one disagees with that then atleast a few months into the year.

    2. The player regains #1 at some point in the year after losing it (even while not ending the year #1 again)

    Starting a year at #1 is easy when you end a year at #1, you shouldnt get any extra credit for doing that.
     
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  5. nadal_slam_king

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    Nadal will last longer at the top than Federer/Sampras did. Those guys had back problems. By Nadal's 30th birthday, he'll have all kinds of records. Its convenient to compare Nadal to Federer/Sampras when Nadal is age 25, so you can rob Nadal of 5 years of achievements.
     
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  6. DolgoSantoro

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    If Nadal plays to 30 he will have to alter his style significantly, without his top caliber movement he would be an entirely different player. I think Nadal will retire at 29 at the latest. He can't keep playing matches like the AO final and maintain his health forever. I wouldn't mind if he proved me wrong but this is how I see things
     
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  7. Joehax

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    I reckon Nadal will probably keep playing, but end up like Hewitt and Roddick

    I can't see him changing his game in a way that will enable him to push into late 20s, early 30s. Especially if his knee problems are legit.

    Djokovic could probably emulate Federer into 30, but who knows..
     
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  8. nadal_slam_king

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    Djokovic is already getting those shoulder/back problems. Awful signs for a 24-year-old. Nadal only gets tendinitis, which he seems to reset each year. Nadal is going to tie the record for consecutive slam-winning years if he wins a slam this year.

    LOL@Roddick/Hewitt. They aren't even remotely similar to Nadal. Roddick is nonathletic. And Hewitt is weak.
     
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  9. TennisLovaLova

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    no matter how people try to put it, Federer is the greatest
     
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  10. nadal_slam_king

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    Only because Nadal is 5 years younger. Give Nadal another 5 years and he passes Federer's 16 slams record, and probably has around 30 masters shields too.
     
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  11. namelessone

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    Wow, this is some pretty bad trolling.
     
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  12. nadal_slam_king

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    I don't think its any secret that Roddick is a rather restricted mover compared to Nadal. And Hewitt, is simply not built like Nadal. Rather obvious.
     
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  13. Matt H.

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    nadal is retiring too much with his knee problem.

    At 30 years old, Nadal will not be able to move like he does now for a full 2 week slam tournament.

    it's not trolling, it's just human biology.
     
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  14. Moose Malloy

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    Connors 12

    Connors 8
     
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  15. McEnroeisanartist

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    Moose, obviously what stands out to me, is that during the year, Federer never fell from being ranked number one for three consecutive years. Also impressive is that during the year he never fell out of the top 2 for six consecutive years. Obviously, the first achievement is a record, is the second achievement a record?
     
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  16. elpolaco84

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    totally unbiased coment
     
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  17. Moose Malloy

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    I doubt Connors slipped out of the top 2 from '74 to sometime in '80

    He has pretty much every longevity record there is.

    From Sep 24, 1973 to May 05, 1986 he spent every week in the top 5!
     
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  18. Fedfan34

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    That must mean he played in a weak era lol
     
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  19. FeVer

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    lolwut?

    And without his serve, Sampras would probably never have won a slam. Without his forehand, Federer may never have made the top 5.

    What's your point?
     
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  20. Apun94

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    Look, it's clear that you are a big Rafa fan (me too) but you rate Nadal WAY TOO MUCH. I am not talking about this post but some of the other posts and you are just too biased
     
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  21. nadal_slam_king

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    Then I suggest you start focusing on the tennis rather than how powerful I am.
     
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  22. McEnroeisanartist

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    Moose, from 2004-2009 (the entire year), Federer was never ranked below #2. Jimmy Connors was ranked number 4 at the start of 1974. He fell to #3 in 1980. Consequently, from 1975-1979 (the entire year), Connors was never ranked below #2. Federer has this record and probably will forever.
     
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  23. mattennis

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    The number of year end finishes ranked top 3 (Open Era) :

    Jimmy Connors: 12 ( consecutive, 1973-1984 )
    Ivan Lendl: 10 ( consecutive, 1981-1990 )
    Pete Sampras: 9 ( consecutive, 1992-2000 )
    Roger Federer: 9 ( consecutive, 2003-2011 )
    Bjorn Borg: 7 ( consecutive, 1974-1980 )
    John McEnroe: 7 ( consecutive, 1979-1985 )
    Rafael Nadal: 7 ( consecutive, 2005-2011 )
    Andre Agassi: 6 ( non consecutive, 1988, 1994, 1995, 1999, 2001, 2002 )
    Stefan Edberg: 5 ( non consecutive, 1987, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992 )
    Boris Becker: 5 ( non consecutive, 1986, 1989, 1990, 1991, 1994 )
    Novak Djokovic: 5 ( consecutive, 2007-2011 )
     
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  24. TopFH

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    nadal_slam_king is Clarky21 in reverse. The former states that Nadal will win everything and the latter that he'll lose everything. *******s are a bizarre bunch.
     
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  25. TopFH

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    At 30, Nadal won't have the physical prowess and strength he has right now at 25.
     
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  27. sunof tennis

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    Yes, and to further clarify, Nadal has been diagnosed with tendonitis in his knees which is a degenerative condition which, unfortutnately, has a significantly high possiblity of getting worse with age and overuse. While Nadal is undisputedly a warrior, I think everyone knows that it remains to be seen whether his body, especially his knees, can withstand the strain and the forces placed upon them for the next five years.
     
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  28. TennisMaestro

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    By the way, for those of you saying that tendinitis isn't that serious, look up the footballer "Owen Hargreaves".
     
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  29. TennisLovaLova

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    Federer is the goat
    Nobody ever reached that kind of tennis level and style
    Deal with it
     
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