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  1. 150mph_

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    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04

    LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model DH-20A4P-04 - OEM
    Item #: N82E16827106228
    Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy




    $20.99




    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F1 HD753LJ 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    Item #: N82E16822152100




    $74.99




    SAPPHIRE 100256L Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card

    SAPPHIRE 100256L Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    Item #: N82E16814102804


    $99.99
    $89.99




    RAZER RZ03-00260100-R3U1 Silver USB Wired Standard Arctosa Gaming Keyboard

    RAZER RZ03-00260100-R3U1 Silver USB Wired Standard Arctosa Gaming Keyboard - Retail
    Item #: N82E16823114010
    Return Policy: Standard Return Policy




    $44.99




    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
    Item #: N82E16835100007




    $5.99




    Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT25664AA80A

    Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT25664AA80A - Retail
    Item #: N82E16820148212

    $87.98
    ($43.99 each)




    ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

    ASUS P5Q Pro LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    Item #: N82E16813131299


    $129.99




    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
    Item #: N82E16819115017

    $184.99




    XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler

    XIGMATEK HDT-SD964 92mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail
    Item #: N82E16835233014




    $27.99



    Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply
    Rosewill R604-P SL 120mm Fan ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,with mesh air filters,adjustable vents & Tool-Free kits - Retail

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    Rosewill RP500-2 500W ATX12V v2.01 Power Supply - Retail
    Item #: N82E16817182016



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    Rosewill R604-P SL 120mm Fan ATX Mid Tower Computer Case,with mesh air filters,adjustable vents & Tool-Free kits - Retail
    Item #: N82E16811147059



    Subtotal: $737.88
     
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  2. edberg505

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    Not bad, the price is really good. When I built mines it cost me about 400 bucks more. Of course this was about 4 years ago. Why not throw in a blu-ray burner as well?
     
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  3. 150mph_

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    blueray too expensive :oops: and i dont have ps3 so :-?
     
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  4. edberg505

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    You can get get one for about 139, that's not too bad. And you don't really need a PS3. A blu-ray disc can hold up 50 GB of data so backing up your hard drive would be a lot easier.
     
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  5. 150mph_

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    that is a great idea... but due to budgetary constraints i dont think i can spare 140 for an optical drive at the momment... need the workstation to do serious video encoding lol... and i have plenty of harddrives laying around :oops:
     
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    Well, in that case that's not too bad. That's a really good price on a hard drive that size too. How much more would it have been for a TB?
     
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    What site are you buying from?
     
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    8GB memory.. what the hell are you going to be doing with this?
     
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  9. 150mph_

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    video encoding/processing
    i want 16gb memory lol but this mobo only support max 8
     
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    I'd spend more money on ram. idk... DDR2 800? aren't those a bit outdated now?
     
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  11. 150mph_

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    ummm... 1066?
     
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  12. Okazaki Fragment

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    You'll want a bigger hard drive then. The 1.5TB is only $130 now.
     
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  13. Mansewerz

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    I'm reading up on building your own system as well. I wanna get a good system without spending a fortune. Is it difficult?
     
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  14. 150mph_

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    my system is probably the best out there imho for the price.. i got a 28" monitor lol.. so :oops:

    oh and HDD space i got plenty
     
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    And all for less than a grand. Oh hell yea. i'm going to read more!
     
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  16. VadeRetro

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    No Mouse?
    No Display?
    No Front unit with cardreader and USB?
    No OS?
     
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  17. 150mph_

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    OS = [​IMG] (roflmao)
    Display = hanns-g 28" beast
    mouse = i got my old mouse (logitech mx)
     
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  18. 150mph_

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    update - i ordered

    everything is there except i changed the ram to corsair dominator 1066 8gig ... (on sale today)
     
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    Looks like a nice build.Can't say I know a lot about that cooler, but if the HDT-S1283 is anything to go by than Xigmatek make good things. I've not seen Rosewill gear over here before, so I can't comment on the psu or case either :p

    Interesting choice of video cards - may I enquire as to why you went down the Crossfire path rather than getting one more powerful card?
     
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  20. mellofelow

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    Good system. My only concern is the power supply. I built a system for my brother and the Rosewill PSU failed after 4 months. It was my first try with Rosewill and never again. Seriously, it's the heart of your entire system and clean, efficient power is crucial. For me, only Antec... PSU and cases.
     
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    Yeah... but the partnership really not boosting Newegg's image. I'm guessing the concept is like blue-label copycat generic stuff... but ain't no real McCoy.
     
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  24. 150mph_

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    idk.. lol.. i have not been studying computer parts since 5 years ago when i first built a computer... *shrug*


    well i buy things based on newegg reviews lol... so idk hopefully it does not die :oops:
     
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  25. nadalfan!

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    How hard is it to build a laptop from just parts? And how much would it cost to build one or can it not be done? :)
     
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    Laptops I think are much harder. The parts are smaller to deal with. I'm not sure if a regular average joe could do it.
     
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  27. Dags

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    What OS are you going to use with that?
     
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    The biggest problem with building a laptop would be heat issues: you cram everything into a much smaller space, so it a) runs hotter and b) leaves less room for a cooling system. There isn't really demand to build your own laptop, which in turn means that the parts aren't widely available.
     
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  29. 150mph_

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    vista 64?
    :-?
     
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  30. 150mph_

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    it will cost more than an equally good laptop from a real company like HP or DELL
     
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    When you're up and running, can you report back whether:

    - you had (m)any issues finding drivers
    - any 32-bit programmes didn't run properly in 32-bit mode?

    XP 64-bit just didn't have the support, so I'm curious whether things have moved on for Vista.
     
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  32. 150mph_

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    what programs do you want to run?
    i dont use any special programs... just whateveryone else is using...
    :oops:
    im a really boring person :(
     
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    I'm mainly interested in 'normal' programmes, so just curious whether you hit any issues. With XP I found certain things just didn't run properly on 64-bit... reminded me of trying to run old DOS-based games in compatibility mode on regular XP.

    Drivers were just a PITA. I managed to get 1 printer out of 4 working, and graphics and sound were really hard to come by with no official support.

    This was all 5+ years ago though, so I'm just interested to hear if things have improved enough to make 64-bit a realistic option.
     
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  34. es-0

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    I just got a new desktop with Vista 64 in late November and besides a brief hiccup with the monitor drivers (and I blame HP for that mishap) I haven't had any real problems yet. Can run any games really, the onboard videocard is weaksauce.

    I'm planing on upgrading the videocard and the power source, any good deals on either of those anyone knows about?

    Right now I'm looking at this card.
     
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  35. nadalfan!

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    What are all the parts u need to build a laptop? And where can I find these?
     
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  36. 150mph_

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    that card is too old...
    try something newer...
     
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    es-0 - what sort of games do you plan on running? That might give us a better idea of what sort of card you will want.
     
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  38. noobplayer

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    its old, but for the price $40 u cant beat it? plus its dx 10 and is much better than his integrated graphics
     
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    Pirating is illegal! Confucious say, you go to jail, bad boy!
     
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    Do I look like Ryan's mum???? Somebody gonna get a hurt real bad!
     
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  41. adams_1

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    I suggest you post your queries on a dedicated PC forum as well as here. Which isn't to say that there aren't people here who know their stuff, it's just that those forums have more of them :)
     
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  42. PCXL-Fan

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    Honestly I like everything I see including the motherboard. Except for the psu which I'm not familiar with that brand or its quality.

    I see you're planning on doing some fairly signifigant overclocking judging from the decent for overclocking p5q pro motherboard and the arctic silver 5 paste and the aftermarket heatsink.

    Just to let you know many many people with recently purchased q6600's have been having trouble overclocking as high as in the past. This is a byproduct of intels desire to increase cpu manufacturing yield. They have tweated the fabrication process of the chips in order to increased yield and reduce manufacturing cost and this has been at the expense of reduced overclocking headroom on the chips. This is a standard procedure that has taken place in the past with previous cpu iterations.

    You still should be able to reach ~3.1ghz but likely not the 3.4 and beyond achieved by those with past G0 stepped q6600s.
     
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    Right now I'm playing Dawn of War, I'm planning on probably getting the new Prince of Persia and Dawn of War 2. Besides that, I just use my computer for work, music, and some design/art stuff.
     
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  44. 150mph_

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    damn.. i just received my 28" monitor...
    this thing is a beast!
    now i can actually SEEEE things
     
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    I have an 8600GT in my PC right now, and it can run all my games smoothly (most on max settings). The GTS version should be even better, and for $40, it's a great deal. Go for it, it makes no sense to drop 3x or 4x the money for a newer one unless you are seriously obsessed with an extra 2 frames per second.
     
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  46. 150mph_

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    depends on what you run...
    some of the newer games on high res and all high settings would not run on that card
    you need quadcore and dual 280s to run at high fps
     
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  47. PCXL-Fan

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    Extra 2 frame? Don't be absurd. And your 8600gt being able to play most games at max setting is incorrect as well unless you are mostly playing 2-4 year old games.

    Lets go through a small list of games that will chew up and spit out an 8600gt/s at 1440 x 900 at max settings (with no AntiAliasing).

    Mass Effect, Crysis, Fallout 3, Grand Theft Auto 4, Bioshock, Elder Scrolls Oblivion, Team Fortress 2, Farcry 2, Grid, Heroes of Might and Magic 5, Witcher, Need For Speed Pro Street, Assassin's Creed, Gears of War....

    Many of the games now coming out now are created primarily for the xbox/ps3 with the pc coming in as a secondary interest. Under the hood of both the ps3 and the xbox 360 you have a gpu that is around as powerful as a 7800gtx/1800xt. Your 8600gt is a fair bit weaker than than a 7800gtx or ati 1800xt, so the graphic performance of your 8600gt will be less than a 360/ps3. Ontop of that when they port games like Pro Street or GTA4 they tend to do a poor job coding it for pc which only adds to the videocard requirements.
     
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    es-0, you might be able to get a 8800GT for cheap, that's if you can find one.
     
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    I think he just has two of everything listed by accident.

    If not... Stupid. Dual videocards are idiotic. They are almost always outperformed by a single solution from the next round of cards. The only justification would be if money were no object. No other reason.

    On the topic of power supplies... I use SeaSonic, they're wonderful.

    I'd recommend flipping through http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer.ars

    They do a pretty decent job at recommending systems if you aren't too familiar with the topic.
     
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  50. vbranis

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    Well, I have one of those games you mentioned (GRID) and I can play it at 1024 x 768, Medium settings, 4x AA. I get ~30 fps. Not bad, IMO, for a demanding game that was released only 6 months ago.

    But then again, I'm not a big gamer, and don't care about everything running at high-res or getting 100 fps. All I can say is that an 8600 will work great for 98% of the games out there and it's a good value. If you want perfection, I guess it might not be enough.
     
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