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  1. AngieB

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    What we need right now is a healthy dose of the calm, British demeanour of Sarah Virginia Wade.

    Is there anyone here who remembered in 1972 when Billie Jean revealed she had an abortion the previous year? Does anyone remember the response to her announcement?

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    If its true why would he need her permission? It's ancient history........nothing that wasn't discussed behind the scenes anyway for yrs. Chrisse has had a well deserved reputation as a man eater since the 70s - that whole little Catholic girl next door was a well known sham in tennis circles. I think she's great and I'm a huge Evert fan - this means nothing vs her image.
     
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    You have a point, but not a good one. I agree that if Chris had as many pr***s sticking out of her as she's had sticking in her, she'd be a porcupine, but this is different.
    It's not something people want to to be known. It's one of the most secret things in a persons life. If they've had an abortion, or was an accomplice by paying for it, or driving them there, etc. How can you not understand that? It doesn't matter if you're for choice or against it. The point is the same. Jimmy betrayed her.
     
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    OUCH! Yeah, she was secretly a man-eater, this is now acknowledged. I'm thinking Connors told her he was going to reveal this...I just don't see him being this big an a-hole towards her (tho' he certainly was to many others).
     
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    I hope and pray that JC is not divulging anything without Chris' permission. That was a huge deal in the 70's It was still a huge deal in the 80's when the rumors (turned out to be true by her admission in 2001) made the rounds that Hana Mandlikova skipped Wimbledon in 1987 to have an abortion.

    Interestingly, I remember Chris being sweetly protective of Hana when the press tried to get the truth out of the players. They had never been close but their relationship changed after that.
     
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    I don't know it she was a "man eater". She had fun. There is a double standard. It's not fair, but that's how it is.
    Also, I hope Jimmy got the OK from Chris before telling this story. If he didn't, then he's pretty messed up.
     
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    Connors should have kept quiet about this knowing what kind of hate Chrissie will get from people who seem to have nothing else to think about. I wonder if he is trying to get some favorable moral publicity out of this and financial gain of course.
     
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    I am pretty sure he is doing it without her permission. It is a win-win situation for him as he comes across as a hero but actually did not have to do anything about it which would have affected his career. And it is a lose-lose situation for Evert.
     
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    Does he require her permission to disclose?

    Legally does he need her permission? Morally - yes. But legally since he was involved - I don't think he requires any permission to disclose events in his life.

    Hope this book is better than Agassi's book!
     
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    No - outside her very protected public image Chrisse was notorious for going thru men........anyone working around the tour from the late 70s thru the 80s saw it. People just didn't say anything.....just like her marriage to J Lloyd falling apart - she was the one having the affairs.

    I'm not going to touch or even try to assume why she has been unable to keep any type of long term relationship - and I don't think it's a issue she is a grown up and has the right to hook up as often as she can and wants to.

    I have to believe that Jimbo AT LEAST sent her an early copy to review or his agent/lawyers contacted her and let her know what was going to be published. If not that's pretty low -

    Proof is so far you have not seen any huge outcry from the Every camp.......it was 40 yrs ago -
     
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    Well I see that StarWng Sports mgt and Everts agent put out a very brief statement from Chrisse,

    "In his book, Jimmy Connors has written about a time in our relationship that was very personal and emotionally painful," Evert said in a statement released to Reuters on Saturday through her agent Lawrence Frankopan at StarWing
    "I am extremely disappointed that he used the book to misrepresent a private matter that took place 40 years ago and made it public, without my knowledge. I hope everyone can understand that I have no further comment."

    There you go.......pretty much admits its true, good for her to drop it. Interesting that Jimbo didn't give her a heads up........understand why ($$$$$ book sales) but still kinda classless.
     
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    That's one of the worst things a man can do to a woman. I don't care how long ago it was. It's just mean.
    You can't convince me that he needs the money, so WHY would he write about that?
     
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    Connors was always a big *** hole.I loved watching him and part of it because he was such an *******.his nature.
     
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    An important part of his life - glad he wrote it. Hopefully the rest of the book is as honest and candid!
     
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    Had no clue Chrissy was such a hot mess. Interesting how her image has evolved over time. America's sweetheart, abortion, infidelity, divorce. It makes for a compelling biopic. Is that what this is all leading towards?

    Connors latest revelation might have been two-fold. For him, to boost sales of his book, for Evert, a future book and or movie. "...no further comment." Don't believe that for a second.

    Smells bull****.

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    i dont see what the big deal is.. it happened and connors is writing about it because it happened to him, theyre his memoirs. whats the point of writing a watered down book that would leave things out as not to not offend anyone so it becomes a story about a life thats not even factual.. and i dont think its tarnishing everts reputation any, shes been divorced 3 times, engaged 4 times, and it was 40 years ago..
     
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    Don't underestimate the money. If Connors' agents had told him he could make a mil more in book sales by revealing this, he might have thought for a second, and then agreed.

    Very easy to convince himself later that he did the right thing. Human nature is very flexible in this regard.
     
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    Seems like a pretty good, gossipy read.
     
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    So I guess Evert will write another book about herself in response. Her first one did say she had gone out with Connors but the way she put it, Evert made their relationship sound like some sweet innocent puppy love. I guess the next one will have the gossip on everybody including Jimmy and Martina, who will then have an excuse to also write her book. (At least half of MN's book will be about Steffi Graf.)

    Don't take it seriously. It's just a game they are playing.
     
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    Maybe it's a very belated retaliation for Evert talking publicly about the comparitive size differential of the Connors and Gerulaitis manhood, which she claimed to have intimate knowledge about each organ.
     
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    I think someone asked her "what is the difference between Jimmy And Vitas?".
    Evert was sipping a soft drink through a straw at the time. She held up the bottle in one hand and the straw in the other and said "One is Jimmy, and one is Vitas". Something like that. I think I read it in Hard Courts. I think Hard Courts said that Chris didn't say which was which, only that that's the difference.
     
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    Which was her favourite position?
    What about John Lloyd and Greg Norman size?
     
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    Me too, but the poster didn't know that and was just trying to share interesting info.
    So thank you to him/her for trying.
     
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    I don't think Jimmy should have put that bit about Evert and the unwanted pregnancy in his book. I'll probably read it.
     
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    I'll read it later. I won't buy it. He should not profit from certain revelations.
     
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    In 6 months, I'll get it used for 99 cents at the well known Internet book selling site
     
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    The book looks like it's going to be superb, with an open honest account of his life. Exactly what I and many people here were hoping for, as had been discussed here.

    I'm amazed at some comments here though in the last few days. Everyone here wanted an open honest account of his life in the book, unlike lots of these boring autobiographies that have most of the controversial comments edited out. But now that some people don't like some of what's been said in the book, they seem to want more editing!

    It seems Jimmy can't win here and please everyone, but then he was never one for pleasing everyone. He was always the outsider.
     
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    You have a good point, except for the ONE thing we're talking about. He shouldn't have told about the abortion. Its too secret. You know if your friends, relatives, coworkers, etc have been divorced and maybe how many times. We know about celebrities. BUT, I bet you don't know how many abortions they all had. Why? Because it's secret. We know what players have been divorced. We know about some of their ex girl/boyfriends. But they don't bring up their abortion stats.
     
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    Jimmy Connors is a worldwide sporting superstar, and my tennis and sporting hero. As a fan I would like to know everything about his life, and the things that influenced him as a person throughout his sporting life. I want to know everything, as much as possible, that he is willing to tell. I want him to be open and honest. For me it is interesting to know what happened in his life, the more detail the better. He has been in the public eye for my whole life, and has inspired many people including me. Incidently I have no interest in the lives of private individuals at all.

    I'm going to read the book, and will be able to have an opinion on the book then. I don't think it's fair to have an opinion from a few articles, it is best to read the whole book in my opinion, even though it does look like it will be great if Jimmy is actually being open and honest about his whole life, i won't actually know until I've read the book. It might still be rubbish, the fact is I don't know yet.

    In fact I will give a review here, as soon as I've read it!
     
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    I understand that, but what about Chrissie?
    Looking forward to your book review.
     
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    Thanks. Well only 3 days to go now, as I'm sure I can get the book sometime on Monday. Am quite excited, as have been looking forward to this book for years!
     
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    Chrisse is the problem...

    I think there is so much discussion about this revelation because of Chrisse. She's and her media people have created this "good girl" image of her that has been shattered.

    If everyone knew how she was on tour - this revelation would not have the impact that it is having.
     
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    I've read that in two or three of my books.

    There's a double standard for sure. Wilt Chamberlain bragged in A View From Above that he had $ex with 20,000 women. Illie Nastase only had 2500 according to his book Mr. Nastase. Marat Safin had two super hot chicks in sexy clothes in his friends box a lot of the time. These guys are cool! But for some reason, Chrissie is viewed negatively for doing a lot less than that.
     
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    I think many who are more than just casual fans of the sport have heard that Evert was not as squeaky-clean as her image. That's not news.
    My personal feeling is that the fact that she got pregnant by Jimmy and had an abortion is at a whole different level than that. I don't think it's the end of the world, but I'll go so far as to *not* buy this book as a result.
    I'm sure this will gain him more money than it loses him, however.
     
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    Well, the suspense is over somewhat, as I am sure some of you saw Jimmy on the Today Show or Roc Center last week. Chris is not happy he talked about the pregnancy and subsequent abortion she had, and is very upset he came out with this without informing her. Also interesting (but sad) about his mother's being assualted while practicing with Jimmy in E St Louis. Jimmy had a couple more hip replacements, and it looks like he can hardly move on the court, from what they showed (also sad to see).
     
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    I always liked him better that J. MacEnroe.....
     
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    Jimmy is Jimmy. Being politically correct, he is not. He dances to his own tune, always has.
     
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    A couple more hip replacements? He had one several years back, before he started coaching Roddick. He seemed to move pretty well, actually.

    Perhaps he has now had a 2nd hip replacement?
     
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    Quoted for common sense.

    If you have disclosed a very private and painful moment about someone else in your bio, maybe your own story is not that exciting. Not being "PC" is not an excuse for being a jerk.
     
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    It was Connors' child as well who Evert aborted, it's understandable that he was upset he had no say in the matter when he was 50% responsible for the pregnancy.
     
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    This is one of those "Life is not Fair" examples. Connors' or any man can't get pregnant, thus have no say in regarding a woman's body or her choices. If Evert felt the need to keep this matter private; I would imagine that a decent human being would honor that. But no one is accusing Connors of being decent.

    In the interest of full disclosure, I am not a Chris Evert fan.
     
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    Yes, somehow resorting to an abortion because the timing was professionally inconvenient without giving the father of said baby a say in the matter makes Evert a decent human being, right? But when Connors talks about it in his biography, that makes him an indecent human being, right?

    I find this type of "morality" somewhat suspect.

    There's a conflict of interest between the baby and the mother. Someone recently joked that if babies in the womb had guns, there would be far less abortions.
     
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    I loved the Agassi book. Enjoyed Pete's book but was disappointed by "one day the serve was just there" . The Nadal book wasn't smoothly written or arranged but had some great insights and am currently enjoying the Rios book.
    However, I couldn't finish the McErnroe book. Towards the end he goes into his personal life & wealth and I had no interest in that stuff.


     
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    I'm not advocating for Evert. I am advocating for a woman's right for a make a very private medical discussion. Whatever reason Evert had for having an abortion, it was her decision to make. If you have a moral issue with that, don't have one.

    Connors broke no laws disclosing Evert's abortion; and Evert broke no laws about having one. By as a poster commented "Jimmy is being Jimmy"; but when he didn't have to stones to discuss this with Evert while writing is bio or even take her feeling regarding the most private of matters, well yeah, I question whether Connors is a decent human being.
     
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    Jimmy said on the Today Show last week to Savannah Guthrie that he had 2 hip replacements last year. I know he had one a few years ago, so I am assuming (unofficially) that that hip was redone and he also had the other hip done. The interview might be on youtube by now, but I have not checked.
     

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