could the internet have been better?

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  1. pushing_wins

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    with a more central planning, less laissez faire development approach

    sort of like iphone (central planning) vs android (free market)
     
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    What would you improve with the internet?
     
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    Android is controlled by Google
     
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    Absolutely, and they could have named it something like, "The U.S. Postal Service".
     
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    The Internet was a U.S. government project and the key innovations were done, and are still done, with DARPA funding. You don't see them because they are more on the backbone side.

    The USPS was absolutely functional when it was critically needed. Mail as a whole has become less important, and the courier services are mainly for the more profitable parcels business.
     
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    any suggestions on improving the internet?
     
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    by removing the internet
     
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    I thought the internet was an Al Gore project.... If he was in government at the time, I guess he can claim ownership.... :)
     
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    I'd like to see the internet get bigger. In the movie JAWS, there was the line - "we're gonna need a bigger boat...."

    Well, we need a bigger net for the inter.

    The OP is asking a question to anyone in the world with a connection - and is thinking that question can be better asked or responded to?

    The internet is better by individual use of it.
     
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    Aren't they both successful due to the presence of the internet?
     
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    He invented the Internet
     
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    That's what I meant. But now I'm confused. Snopes says one thing and Wikipedia says another. Oh, brother.....
     
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    also promotes and facilitates criminal behaviour

    is bigger necessarily better?

    are you saying - without the internet my question cannot be even asked or responded to?
     
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    Yes, if AlBore's invention caused global warming, it would be ideal.
     
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    One aspect of the internet that is argued for or against depending on how you view it is how secure transmission privacy is. They probably could not have come up with a more surveillance friendly system if they had tried. On one hand that seems like a good thing when you consider the ease with which is had allowed evil folk to meet and conjure up bad things... but also slightly evil in that privacy of things like emails is much lower than people generally think. If someone wanted to they could easily make a copy of every email you ever sent without you knowing it (or without ever having accessed your computer even).
     
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    We need a brain-computer interface into the internet. All minds will be linked and information can be accessed immediately.
     
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    The World Wide Web, which makes the internet useable, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee of CERN.

    And it is an open network whereas walled gardens are popping up everywhere.



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    I think Google has already done that to us, we just don't know about it
     
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    The more interesting question is how can we make the Internet more accessible and usable TODAY?

    These are two distinct issues. To oversimplify, in less developed countries, affordable access is needed as a basic matter. In well developed countries, we should be at a point where higher speeds are available at less cost.

    As a basic example, I called the d-bags at Comcast and asked to upgrade connectivity speed. They were happy to take more money every month, but were unable to deliver any increase in speed. Where is Al Gore when I need him to solve this problem?!
     
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    It's always striking when people who not too many years ago had dial-up connections to the internet and glacial speed complain today about how slow it is. Some people have no perspective of how much things have changed.
     
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    He's too busy making hundreds of millions of dollars selling imaginary carbon credits and TV networks to gullible d-bags.
     
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    The government likes the internet.

    They can get more information about people without them knowing, probably illegally but when has that ever stopped them? :)

    They charge way too much. Speeds are way to low so that they can have different tiers and charge more.

    To improve it, make all interent offerings at 100 mbps. No tiers, no download limits.
     
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    Without the Internet, I would never have known about r2473
     
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    If we had more competition and cable/telecoms weren't near monopolies, then we might have a faster internet. Right now there's no real reason to spend the money to increase infrastructure. The internet in the US is pretty slow and expensive compared to some countries.

    http://www.wired.com/opinion/2012/12/hey-dont-forget-about-internet-access-in-the-u-s/

    http://gizmodo.com/5983300/why-us-internet-access-is-slow-and-expensive

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/05/internet-speed-united-states-digital-divide_n_1855054.html

    So we should be satisfied with a system that's slower and more expensive than it should be? Doesn't mean you don't have perspective, but you may have a sense that you're getting a poor product for the price.
     
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    The danger of not having ubiquitous high-speed broadband (partially due to the vested interests of some companies and partially due to lack of investment) is that it can lead to loss of innovation. New applications and businesses spring up when higher broadband makes new things possible. And what are these new things? That is exactly what cannot be known ahead and what constitutes the danger of being left behind technologically.
     
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    I could have been designed with trusted transactions in mind.

    But I don't think using iphone or android is an good example for the design of the internet.
     
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    LOL! He's been at this self-serving scamming stuff since he, well, invented the whole Internet. Funny how few people understand how nutjobs like Gore have hijacked environmentalism to into their own pocketbooks.
     
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    Could the Web be better? Yes.




    Can the Internet be better? How? Organisations can share files on the FTP 21 and 20, private email via POP/IMAP/SMTP, VPN access for remote employees etc due to the connections of servers located on the internet. No. The internet could not have been made any better than it already was. The only problem with the internet is the people. Especially hackers. Nowadays, it's normally these troubleshooting tools which actually provide the most risk to hacking especially internally. The platform itself is perfect; It's the crackers and internal morons who are the danger to the internet.
     
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    I don't think the speed is the issue per se. It's also that as speeds have increased, pages have become extremely heavy too.

    Often a page with just a line of information useful to you (the viewer) has several MB of images and other eye-candy to make the page look attractive or whatever.

    Or maybe the people complaining of speed are now downloading bluray movies of 4-10 GB.

    I have a really cheap internet connection of 2mbps and that allows me to download a movie of about 1 GB in roughly an hour, which is fantastic compared to the old days of dialup.
     
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    Wow, I guess I can't complain too much about my speed. But, I will, particularly for the high price.

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    Without you, the internet would have been much better ; - )
     
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