Courier's Backhand towards the end....

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  1. theagassiman

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLZK0KaDH0k
    from the latter part of his career

    Interesting shot. Often cited by commentators as a 'weak shot', western grip but he could hit an okay passing shot with it.
    In that match especially though it keeps dropping short as a rally ball you see, so while it can't be a 'nothing' shot, it never threatened.
    He couldn't drive through consistently like Agassi, because the grip was too awkward and though high balls to most backhands are difficult, for Courier it was harder than most.

    It seems to me also that Enviquist was part of a new generation who tended to hit harder than Courier anyway and started to 'figure' him out.
     
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  2. Limpinhitter

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    Weak backhand? A new generation that hit harder than Courier? Oy!
     
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    The backhand did'nt seem weak. It just had a lot of spin on the ball so that even though Courier hit the ball in the service box it jumped up very high to reach the baseline area.
     
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  4. scootad.

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    It was definitely a weak shot especially for a player of his stature.
     
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  5. Lambo

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    in comparison to his forehand not weaker but of a different style. More than adequate for his game.
     
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  6. scootad.

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    Adequate for his game?? Sure he had a big forehand but much of the reason he ran around his backhand so much to hit forehands while standing in the doubles alley is to avoid having to hit a backhand.
     
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  7. Limpinhitter

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    Accord Federer and Nadal.
     
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    It was a substantial handicap IMO as his career went on. As he lost a little footspeed, his standard court positioning to the left exposed him more and more.
     
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  9. theagassiman

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    yes certainly better than it looked but you can't help but think technically flawed shot. Of course these things are subjective so whatever....

    also his forehand grip was good for inside out shots, when he played rally forehands or running ones he had to adjust (thats why people would go to that side for second ball, as time went on)
     
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  10. Lambo

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    Most people who have rocket forehands generally run around their backhands i.e weaker shot in order to hit the forehand. Evidenced federer I would not say he has a weak backhand. He still beats 99% of players with that backhand and only nadal can exploit the weaker backhand.
    Fed still runs around his backhand in order to use his weapon i.,e. forehand.
     
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  11. scootad.

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    Nowhere near as frequently as Courier did.
     
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  12. robow7

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    Sampras was another to camp over there hitting inside out forehands but for a different reason, eventually somebody thinks they can take their backhand down the line since Pete would leave it so open but then uh-oh, here comes that running forehand. Point over.
     
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  13. junbumkim

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    Courier's backhand was really a mediocre shot, just steady without any threat, but it was more liability when he had to hit it on the run. With his awkward grip, he had limited leverage on bh, and the fact that he was not an excellent mover made the problem worse. His forehand grip was also pretty extreme and didn't have as much leverage. The textbook play against Courier was to go wide to his forehand and then go to his backhand to really exploit the problem. In his interview with tennis magazine back in 1998 or 9, he talks about this and says that Sampras was the first one to employ this strategy against him.
     
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  14. theagassiman

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    link? would be worth a read
     
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