crazy thing after a mixed doubles sectional..

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  1. fire_eaters

    fire_eaters New User

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    So I just came back from my 6.0 mixed doubles sectional, and my team did awesome. We came in second place overall and got our finalist trophies and everything...We lost out of first place by ONE game which was really tough..so after we all came home my captain decided to check all the game stats out online and stuff..come to find out, the team that came in first place cheated. They paired a 3.5 with a 3.0 in several of their matches including the one against us. We have emailed the owner of our club and he said that the first place team should be defaulted, we should email the USTA sectioal corrordiator and that our team should be declared champions and get the invite for nationals. What do you all think of this? I think its nuts..i cant believe it. Do you agree with my club owners assessment?
     
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  2. kendall22

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    Isn't there supposed to be a coordinator checking these things out before the matches start? Certainly at the district level so why wouldn't there be at the section level?
     
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  3. fire_eaters

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    Yes I know for a fact they did that on friday and saturday, but for the finals yesterday i have no idea...I wondered the same thing..how the heck did that get by USTA officials?
     
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  4. kendall22

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    I think I found your section in question. The thing is while there are several players with 3.5 ratings as of 12/31/09 from the "Find A Rating" page, all these players have 3.0 ratings on the team page.

    So while I have never seen this, I would surmise that
    a) When league started in October, they were still 3.0 and your league is not subject to Early Start,
    b) Your section allows them to keep competing under the old ratings throughout the championship season.

    I find (a) odd since my league started in early Nov., very close to this one and was totally subject to Early Start.
     
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  5. fire_eaters

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    Yeah but I was still a 3.0 at the start of the season too but, I got bumped up for 2010 and I wasn't aloud to play with a 3.0 girl? That's cheap if they can be aloud to do that just because they happened to start in october...it doesn't make sense
     
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  6. dizzlmcwizzl

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    Here this happens all the time, at it does not seem at all unusual to me.

    Consistently we have players who get early start ratings and later get bumped up ... howver we are always able to finish the mixed season at our original ratings.
     
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  7. tennis tom

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    It's krap like this that makes me glad I don't play on a team anymore. Tennis should be played between humans and not computers.

    Hire a League Tennis attorney specialist, and lititgate. In about fifteen years, the case should make it to the US Supreme Court. By then the court should be packed with activist judges, so start lobbying judges on the Federal level now.
     
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  8. catfish

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    If your team captain is questioning the player ratings, he or she should contact the local, district, or sectional league coordinator and get an explanation. Contacting the club owner doesn't make any sense. Club owners probably won't know USTA league rules, unless they are also a USTA league coordinator.

    If your USTA mixed league was a 2009 league, that means that players may play with their 2009 ratings. I suspect that those players you mention got bumped up at the end of 2009, so they must play with their new ratings in 2010 leagues. If you do some searching in TennisLink, you can see whether it was a 2009 league. Then check the players ratings for 2009. It may all make sense if you do some searching in TennisLink and look at league dates and the player ratings for 2009 and 2010.
     
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  9. kendall22

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    There is an inconsistency here that cannot be explained unless OP clears it up with his league (or has the details wrong):

    Sectional winning team was allowed to play with dated, 2009 lower ratings in the 6.0 mixed doubles sectional in the 2010 championship year. However, OP states he was not.

    Section rules vary widely across the country. Using old ratings non-Early Start throughout the new year might be allowed in this section, but why was OP not allowed to do that on his team?
     
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  10. catfish

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    Yes, the OP's mixed league was probably an early start league. This could explain a lot. The OP is not clear on details.
     
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    Doubtful if the players listed on the team page have 3.0 ratings next to their names. That's how we figured out individual people had been promoted in our section, which is Early Start. We weren't smart enough to read their super secret esoteric how to know your rating manual and go find a PDF buried in the sectional web page.

    This team has 4-5 players who are now 3.5 on the "Find a Rating" page as of 12/31/09. Couldn't be Early Start.
     
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  12. decades

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    cheating and sandbagging at a USTA sanctioned event? you sure about that? it's virtually unheard of....
     
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