critique my 2nd serve (video)

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  1. guedoguedo

    guedoguedo Semi-Pro

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    had some fun today with the digital camera. This is a second serve, just spin. Note that i am a 3.X player and i play doubles against old people, so i dont haev to be that good!!! But give me some tips on my form, toss, whatever thanks :p

    http://lucky.phpwebhosting.com/~chkelly/Movie_0001.wmv
     
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  2. SocalTennis

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    Your posture looks very casual and you want to land into the court with your right foot and your serving hand wrap under your body. You would also want to toss a little higher to have more time for preparation (don't toss too high or your serve will suffers).
     
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  3. musicc

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    little/no leg bend... poor racquet drop... not really accelerating towards the ball. maybe you should get a slice serve for a second, its more "safe" then a flat serve...
     
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  4. guedoguedo

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    that was a slice serve, you just cant tell from that angle! will work on leg bend and higher toss, tell me about racquet drop...?
     
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  5. takeuchi

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    You could try these for a better serve too:
    keeping your tossing arm up until the last moment (will help get your shoulder line to point up at the ball)
    stretching your hip (keeping the tossing arm up and stretched would help facilitate this)
    put your shoulders back in the windup (so it stretches your chest muscles)

    combine those with a good knee bend and explosion upwards to the ball and i think you would have a great serve

    i actually though you had a decent racquet drop for acceleration (but then again i am no coach)
     
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  6. ramseszerg

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    A racquet drop is when your elbow points toward the sky and your racquet is close to your body and also parallel to it.
     
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  7. guedoguedo

    guedoguedo Semi-Pro

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    I have made good strides with my serve form I think. Before (as in the video), I isolate my shoulder and put a lot of strain on it. As a result i lose power and can hurt myself, as I did recently....

    I now throw the ball forward more, start out lower and get more kneebend, and put my whole body into it. THe result is i hit it harder much easier, not feeling much strain on my shoulder at all. Will get a video soon.
     
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  8. shindemac

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    Your contact point is a bit low. Your arm is bent at contact. You open up your chest/shoulders too early. Use more knee bend.
     
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  9. guedoguedo

    guedoguedo Semi-Pro

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    heres my update..toss a little higher, knees more bent

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  10. JCo872

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    Nice.

    Try to keep that back foot from coming around and forward into the court too early. I can't tell how your feet
    are positioned, but it looks like your positioning is causing your back foot to come around and into the court mid shot.

    See how Federer keeps his leg back:

    http://www.hi-techtennis.com/serve_index.cfm

    You're getting it though!
     
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  11. MoneyBall

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  12. MoneyBall

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    Once you get this down (both spin and location), you can go ahead and rip the ball. Trust me, you'll hit up at the ball and maybe go airborne a little bit like the pros do.

    I have only been playing tennis for two years and my serve is my biggest weapon and that was how I developed it. Right now, I really have only two serves: a flat first serve and a kick second serve to the opponent's backhand. One-third of the time I use my kick as a first serve just to throw my opponent off a little.
     
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  13. MoneyBall

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    I am not dismissing everyone's suggestions. I think they are all correct but balance is fundamental. Keeping balance is not easy..your toss must be perfect, your backswing and follow through, including the non-dominant arm must be also be fluid.

    Once you get this down, everything that everyone has suggested will become natural.
     
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  14. Duzza

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    The 2nd video is MUCH IMPROVEMENT. much respect. But still try not to "turn" your body that quickly after you've hit the ball. Follow through more, or try running to the net, the feet landing looks weird.
     
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  15. Rickson

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    You're using your right leg as a pogo stick instead of effectively jumping off of 2 feet. You could use some more back bend, keep your tossing arm up a little longer, and look up at the ball a little longer.
     
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