Currently what are the slowest/fastest hardcourt on the tour?

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  1. timnz

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    I am speaking of outdoor hard courts.

    For slowest - My Pick would be the Australian Open, but could it be Miami? (there are rumours going that it is faster this year but generally Miami is very slow).

    For fastest - It would be Cincinatti I think. (Not that it is fast by 80/90's standards but the fastest of the current hard courts).

    What are people's thoughts?
     
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  2. OddJack

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    Fastest is Dubai and USO
     
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  3. monfed

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    Generally(slowest to quickest) -

    Miami
    IW
    AO
    Toronto
    Shanghai
    Cincy
     
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  4. timnz

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    US Open

    Where do you place the US Open?
     
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  5. monfed

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    The way it played last year, new list(added Dubai)-

    Miami
    AO
    IW
    USO
    Toronto/Montreal
    Shanghai
    Dubai*
    Cincy

    *Dubai,Cincy might switch places the way Dubai played this year,let's see. Excluded indoors since you mentioned Outdoors in the OP.

    PS - Judging from last year Toronto/Montreal and USO are close. Generally USO plays faster than Toronto though.
     
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    I've got a question for those who've been following tennis for a longer time,
    what was the speed of Dubai, Miami, AO, IW, USO, Toronto/Montreal, Shanghai, Cincinnati in the 90's compared to 2011/2012?
     
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    Miami and IW - humid versus dry air - what difference does this make as the courts might actually be similar.
     
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  8. Bobby Jr

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    Yeah... I agree. Let's see how Miami plays. I doubt it'll be slower than the Aussie Open.

    Also - I felt at times like IW wasn't all that quick but at other times it seemed much quicker. That says to me the balls were changing in their characteristics more with the heat/humidity/air pressure rather than simply being a surface thing.
     
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    If the courts are the same, then IW would be faster. Humidity wreaks havoc on "court" speed.
     
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  10. monfed

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    Hope it plays like IW if not faster.

    Hmm ok.
     
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    The Shanghai Masters 1000, as such, is a recent development. In its present incarnation it's been played since 2009.

    http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Shanghai.aspx

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Masters_(tennis)#History

    The Dubai tournament has been around since the mid 90s. Sorry, Don't know the relative speeds.
     
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  12. Nathaniel_Near

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    From what my eyes have told me in recent times:

    Miami
    AO*
    IW

    Shanghai
    USO
    Toronto/Montreal

    Dubai* = Cincy

    Could be wrong, though.


    * = based on 2012 speeds; rest are 2011.
     
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  15. mattennis

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    Indian Wells and Miami have always been (possibly) the two slowest outdoor hardcourts.

    AO with rebound ace was maybe a bit faster than IW and Miami, but still quite slow and high bouncing.

    Cincinatti and USO were clearly faster than IW, Miami and AO.

    The speed depends on many things: the weather, balls, how they resurface it each year,....


    Dubai this year has been possibly the fastest outdoor hardcourt conditions I've seen in some years.
     
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    We are still in the dry season here in Florida.
     
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    Isn't it humid in FL even in the "dry" season?
     
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