Darn it...It's Charleston for the Davis Cup....

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  1. atatu

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    Oh well, no Fort Worth. I'll refrain from making bitter remarks about S.C. and the state flag, I hear Charleston is nice, here's the article from Yahoo....

    Charleston gets Davis Cup semifinals

    May 18, 2004
    WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. (AP) -- Charleston, S.C., will host the U.S. Davis Cup team's semifinal against Belarus in September.

    It's the first time Davis Cup matches will be played in South Carolina, where a formal announcement will be made Wednesday.

    The U.S. Tennis Association had until Tuesday to pick a site. Its five other finalists were Atlanta; Carson, Calif.; Fort Worth, Texas; Houston; and Tunica, Miss.

    Tickets for the best-of-five series Sept. 24-26 go on sale next month.

    The surface will be a slow, hard court.

    The U.S. team is expected to be led by U.S. Open champion Andy Roddick and the top-ranked doubles team of twins Bob and Mike Bryan. They were on the squad that beat Sweden 4-1 in the quarterfinals last month in Delray Beach, Fla., while Max Mirnyi and Vladimir Voltchkov led Belarus past Argentina 5-0.

    Spain's tennis federation announced last week that the Mediterranean resort city of Alicante will host its semifinal against France. A court will be set up in a bullring.

    If the U.S. team wins in September, it would host France or travel to Spain for December's final.
     
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  2. Colpo

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    Thank goodness the surface will be a "slow hard court" rather than the clay previously considered and I thought decided upon. While a clay court would have certainly slowed down Max and Vlad, the US players, including Roddick, would not have been a lock on clay. Pat McEnroe has already shown a mysterious disinclination to giving the 2nd singles slot to Spadea, so who's your 2nd singles on clay, Fish? Ginepri? Blake? Pretty awful options. I'll take a hard court and hopefully we'll knock off Belarus straight up.
     
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    Well, I think Fish was the right choice, although Spadea definitely has been playing well, what Mac said and I agree with is that Fish has been the most consistent over the past year or so. Unless Spadea does something like make the semis at the French, I'd go with Fish again. Besides, that way you can have headlines like "Roddick gets Fish off the hook" etc. etc.
     
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    This is interesting. I live in Greenville, about 3 hours from Charleston and will certainly try to get tickets. The only site that can host the thing, that I know of, is the Daniel Island center that also hosts the WTA Family Circle. The courts there are clay. I wonder if they will resurface the stadium court for the match?

    Don't know what was meant with the comment about the state flag? What's that got to do with tennis?
     
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  5. Brian Purdie

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    Great! The one time Davis Cup comes comes within 60 miles of me, and my wife tells me theres a wedding we have to go to that weekend!
     
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    atatu,

    Exactly what is your point about our flag?
     
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    At must be referring to the Stars and Bars, Roddick rolling into the stadium in the General Lee, with 38 Special blaring in the background.
     
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  8. chad shaver

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    Would you care to find out what the state flag actually looks like?

    The General Lee? That show was set in Georgia. I have no idea where .38 Special is from.

    Well?
     
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  9. BigboyDan

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    OK, I'll ask it:

    Where in Charleston?
     
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    Until a few years ago, the Confederate flag flew over the South Carolina Statehouse. It was taken down, and now is on the lawn, or someplace a bit less conspicuous.

    The move was made following an economic boycott of SC by the NAACP.

    It has to do with tennis because in April 2000, Serena Williams withdrew from the Family Circle Cup on Hilton Head Island to show her support for the NAACP's boycott.

    Here's a link to an old article on the subject:

    http://www.lowcountrynow.com/stories/041300/SPTboycott.shtml
     
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    I hope that Fish has his game dialed in this time around for the slow hard court, it certainly nuetralized his all cout game last time against bjorkman....and Mirnyi is a smillar player that likes to get to net

    Who knows, maybe Pmac can get Agassi for one last hoorah in Davis Cup for the semi's and finals....Roddick and Agassi and the Bryan bros.....lookout, that would be scary but sadly its just a pipedream :(
     
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  13. BigboyDan

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    Not the State Flag. They're talking about the Confederate Battle Flag (re: Stars & Bars) that flew above the State Capitol Building until a backlash starting in the mid-nineties, a corporate boycott, and a sports event boycott got the state legislature to remove it. The flag represents, still, white supremecy over Southern Blacks. They moved the flag to the capitol grounds; boycott over.

    There is no way the USTA could have chosen a South Carolina site two years-ago.
     
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    Sorry, I shouldn't have even brought it up, Chad is right, the issue wasn't the State flag. I was just trying to think of something negative about SC because I was disappointed in the location. I actually love SC, especially Hilton Head. Never been to Charleston, but have heard nothing but good things. I'm sure it will be a great location for a Davis Cup tie.
     
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    Sounds like it will be a matter of when, not if, Davis Cup returns to Ft. Worth. Let's pull for a France win :)

    From the local Ft. Worth paper:
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    The United States Tennis Association passed over Fort Worth on Tuesday in selecting the site for its September Davis Cup match, instead choosing Charleston, S.C.

    Fort Worth was considered a co-favorite along with Charleston and Atlanta, but the USTA chose the South Carolina venue based on the existence of its pristine, permanent tennis facility.

    The Sept. 24-26 semifinal against Belarus will be held at the Family Circle Tennis Center on Daniel Island, home to the women's annual Family Circle Cup Tournament.

    Fort Worth's bid centered on TCU's Bayard H. Friedman Tennis Center, which would've necessitated the construction of temporary stands to seat the minimum 5,000 fans.

    "Fort Worth's bid was tremendous," said USTA director of USA team tennis Jeff Ryan. "The timing just wasn't right this time. But the Davis Cup will return to Fort Worth. It's not a matter of if, but when."

    The soonest that could happen would be December for the 2004 Davis Cup Final. If the U.S. beats Belarus and France beats Spain in the other semifinal, the Americans would host the final Dec. 3-5. Against either opponent, U.S. coach Patrick McEnroe would likely select a fast court in an indoor venue, making Tarrant County Convention Center again a viable option.

    The U.S. last won the Davis Cup, tennis' annual team competition, on American soil in 1992 at TCCC.

    "We know Fort Worth knows how to put on a final," said Ryan. "Their bid to host it again would be very well-received."
     
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  18. chad shaver

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    Not a problem, atatu. It's always interesting, though, to watch people tossing about their stereotypes.
     
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    i'd rather see us play spain for the title instead of france, even if it means playing off of american soil for the first time this year
     
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  20. Free_Martha

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    It's about time the DC people realized that there are other great sites to play tennis matches in other than Texas. (so sick of everything being in Houston)
     
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  21. VamosRafa

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    Spain is virtually unbeatable in Spain on clay. A healthy Argentine squad could potentially do it, and perhaps France. So the U.S.'s best chance of hoisting the Salad Bowl this year is if France gets lucky against Spain, and has to come here for the Final. I think it's unlikely, but it could happen.

    But it's more unlikely that the US could do it in Spain on clay. The last time they tried, they lost 5-0. I know that anything can happen in Davis Cup, and sometimes does, but for this current US squad to beat Spain in Spain on clay would take a miracle.

    Susan
     
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    Yeah, as far as I know, there have been two Davis Cup ties in Texas since 1992....it's not like they have it here every other year...
     
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    atatu! atatu! atatu! Though you're one of my fav posters, I nevertheless have to bust yer chops on this one. You're dissing "Smiling Faces-Beautiful Places" So. Carolina's city of Charleston (and S.C. itself) with some "the Confederate flag is a reminder/symbol of slavery and thus is a racially insensitive symbol" kind of tweak??

    Whoa! Time out Green Bay!! THIS from a guy who once posted that he'd tip a waiter extra if the waiter was of a "particular" ethnic (in this case, Asian) decent? Tsk! Tsk! Btw, Mr. "holier than thou" Texas: YOUR racist dog of a state was snatched from the Mexicans by a bunch of gold-digging, land grabbin' drunks from Appellachia you racist dog yourself!! (lol--smirk!). Then again, you are from Austin? Great (music) town.....love the UT blondes.........just avoid that bell tower (another smirk).

    Charleston IS a wonderful city. Historic, utterly charming, great food. One time though, I was staying in a hotel in S.C., and the sink faucet was in need of a new washer. I called the front desk and said: "I'm in Room 324 and I've gotta leak in my sink." The guy at the front desk replied: "Go ahead." Hmmmm.....

    'Bout the only bad thing I can say about the Palmetto State is that they "gave" us that one-trick pony of a band, Hootie and the Fish Blow............... (they'd even stink on ice)
     
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  24. chad shaver

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    Sean,

    You forgot hot, steamy and often smelly in your description of Charleston....
     
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    Chad: I didn't think a description of Charleston's "red light" denizens was relevant : - )

    Whenever we go to historic Charleston, we always play that local game they call "Fort Sumpter" ............ we get really, really, really bombed!!
     
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  26. chad shaver

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    You've been to Trade St., haven't you? How long did you have to take the antibiotics?

    Like how you added the "p" into Sumter. :lol:
     
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    South Carolina.....damn warhawks!
     
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    Sean, thanks for reviving this post, I thought it was dead...anyway, I have to confess I have no idea what you're talking about as far as tipping Asian waiters goes, seriously. I thought I pretty much backed off on my S.C. criticism, but yeah, Texas isn't exactly the model of diversity. By the way, "Cracked rear view" is one of my favorite albums, and you gotta admit Darius Rucker has an awesome voice.
     
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