Davis Cup Final- Predictions and thoughts

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  1. tennisbuck

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    Who do you all think will win? my prediction is Spain 3-2
     
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    I think Czech will win, because I don't expect them to pick clay as the surface and then they will have the advantage. Oh and they don't have to worry about Nadal, Czech has their anti-Nadal weapon ready.
     
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    It's not likely Rafa will play.

    And Spain has a good depth of men who can do well on hardcourts.

    Remember they beat the US in Texas on hardcourt. With A-Rod. And without Rafa.
     
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    Czechs will win the doubles clearly, Berdych and Stepanek are a competent team and the spaniards are less so. If nadal doesn't play I predict 3-2 to the Czechs
     
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    Who is it from the Spanish team that you think are going to be playing doubles?

    And even if the Czechs do win doubles, how is it you think they're going to come out with that score? They'd still have to play two rounds of singles to get it.
     
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  6. stringertom

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    This will be close and may come down to a decisive rubber...Indoor HC makes me favor Berdych for both singles as he will beat Nico and have a royal battle with Ferrer (WTF '11). The dubs will be crucial as Stepanek may not be relied upon for either singles matchup. I go 3-2, for the home team.
     
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  7. hersito

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    matches will probably be:

    ferrer-berdych= ferrer should win but is the anyone can win match
    almagro-stepaneck= almagro
    doubles= checz will win
    almagro-berdych= berdych
    ferrer-stepaneck= ferrer

    so I predict a very close 3 - 2 for spain.
     
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    Spain, though I'm probably only going to watch it with high intensity if Nadal is playing.
     
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  9. beast of mallorca

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    Spain has not placed their roster yet. Almagro, though in top 12, is not a shoe in
    for a spot. There are other players more compe tent on indoor hard courts than him. Granolers or Deliciano or even Verdasco is better. So, wait and see mate.

    The doubles partnership of Marc Lopez and Granola Bar was very competent. If not or their injury, they could have beaten the Bryans...a remote possibility nonetheless
     
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    Roger that.

    I think Spain will win, but rooting for a Czech-Mate.
     
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    Thoughts: Spain in 3
    Predictions: Spain in 3
     
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  12. Beryl

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    Berdych would have to have a hand in all 3 Czech points, as the worm cannot be expected to win any singles ties. Big ask to have Berdych play best-of-5 3 days consecutively.
     
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    In a indoor hard court, Czach just might have the chances to take this 3-2...
     
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  14. Max G.

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    Stepanek has a chance against the spanish #2, whoever it'll be (as long as Nadal's not playing and Ferrer is their #1).
     
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  15. CDNguy87

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    Obviously a huge variable is whether Nadal can return healthy. It's also hard to say if guys like Ferrer and Berdych will be tired from playing at WTF the week before. Based on these uncertainties, making a prediction seems rather futile for now.

    I would love to see a Nadal/Rosol rematch on indoor HC though with the Davis Cup on the line.
     
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  16. wintintu

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    So now that we are a bit closer to davis cup final I found this thread a few pages back. I think its pretty clear what the matches will be: berdych v almagro, ferrer v stepanek, granollers/lopez v berdych/stepanek, ferrer v berdych, stepanek v almagro. Anybody could win any of those matches and the bookmakers are giving the edge to the czechs but I think spain will do it 3-2 or 4-1. I expect two points from ferrer and M & M to give spain the doubles also. Plus I would fancy almagro to beat the worm if he serves well. Any other thoughts??!
     
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    With the advent of Grannolers and Marc Lopez.....I don't even think even that is assured.

    Czechs have a chance without Rafa.....Most likely Spain 3-2. Berdych wins boths matches.
     
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  18. tennisbuck

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    grannolers and lopez are a great team guys why does everyone think the checks will win doubles?
     
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    If Granollers and Lopez play doubles there is a very small chance they will lose. Also I don't think Stepanek will win a single's match. So I don't see how the czechs can win even if Berdych wins both of his singles. But I don't expect him to beat Ferrer anyway, so I'd put it at 4-1 Spain.
     
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    Yeah, even if Spain throws Verdasco in there, I see it falling like this with the Ferrer-Berdych match being the decider. I think either could win an indoor fast court match and that will decide the champion.
     
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  21. beast of mallorca

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    please add a poll
     
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  22. beast of mallorca

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    Don't underestimate the lady killer now.:)

    And as far as the doubles, I was pretty impress with the M&M doubles of Spain with their showing at the WTF, beating the Bryan bros. They might actually be the ones to decide who wins.
     
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    Could really be exciting. Doubles and Ferrer-Berdych need to go the way of the czechs in order to win probably.
     
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  24. Max G.

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    I'm pretty sure that Stepanek can beat Almagro on an indoor court. And Berdych is playing pretty well.

    I think it'll be close. 3-2 either way, not sure. With the recent doubles win, I think it would have to be spain 3-2 for the win.
     
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    The Czech have a chance, but if Berdych loses to Ferrer then they will have no chance. I suspect they will pick a fast court that is unfavorable for the Spaniards and give Stepanek and Berdych an advantage.
     
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  26. Warmaster

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    If it's a fast court, Stepanek has a decent chance to win one of his single matches, which will be key for a Czech victory in my opinion. Otherwise you'd have Berdych needing to win all of his matches, the third against Ferrer without getting a day off.
     
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    I was thrilled that M&M were doubles champions of the world.

    However, I wouldn't underestimate the possibility that the Czech coach substitutes his singles players for Rosol and that other guy.

    Remember they did that at the last minute in Argentina?
     
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    Has stepanek beaten ferrer before? Whats their h2h?

    I dont think stepanek will lose to almagro on a court thats good for him, that should be a match up from heaven for him, people just love to underestimate steps but just step back for a second and look at his record on this type of court.
     
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  29. Gonzo_style

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    It's possible that Ferrer is a little tired for long matches, I predict 3-1 for the Czech Republic
     
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    it's 3-6, although ferrer has won the last three matches since the ridiculous win in the DC final 2009.

    edit: hopefully the spanish take this one. I can't stand berdych winning anything.
     
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  31. Warmaster

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    I don't understand why Spain is using Almagro instead of Feliciano Lopez.

    Deliciano is simply a better player on fast courts. Not to mention he has an excellent h2h on fast courts against Berdych as well. He leads 4-3, but two of those losses were on clay.
     
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    Not even almost. If Daveed still went 2-1 in the WTF despite winning a 500 and a 1000 two weeks in a row, he'll be fine. He'll win both.
     
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  33. woodrow1029

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    Ferrer d. Stepanek
    Berdych d. Almagro
    CZE wins doubles (if Berdych/Stepanek play together).
    Ferrer d. Berdych

    Almagro vs. Stepanek (I give the edge to Almagro, but with the home crowd, Stepanek could pull it out.)


    If CZE puts doubles team in any combination other than Berdych/Stepanek, say ESP wins 3-2 or 4-1.

    If Berdych/Stepanek play dubs, it's going to come down to the 5th match, with slight edge to ESP for me.
     
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  34. ruerooo

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    After a DF on match point and another game, Ferru takes the match and gives Spain the first point. Vamos!
     
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  35. norbac

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    Should be Berdych's point.

    Haha, I love Davis Cup crowds. That call that went against Berdych really ignited the crowd.
     
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  36. Rozroz

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    wtf happened with the umpire's decision??
    didin't quite catch it..
     
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  37. woodrow1029

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    what happened?
     
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  38. ICanBeSerious

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    The point was replayed because correctly when the linesman call it out, the ball could still be played by Almagro, he had reached it already but let it go.
    The ubber stupid eurosport speaker said that the point should remain to Berdych.
     
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  39. Rozroz

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    i don't know.. there was a huge argument and the commentators said something like "horrible decision"..
    at the end they replayed the point.
     
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  40. Crayola Oblongata

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    I just watched back...Berdych's ball was called out, but the challenged showed it was in. They replayed the point even though Almagro would've been able to get a racket on it? Commentators were saying that they shouldn't have replayed the point as it was Berdych's. Bbut if Almagro heard the call then he would've stopped playing? Now I'm wondering if it was the umpire who called it out? That would make more sense for why they feel it was Tomas' point.

    ???????:confused:
     
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    A Spanish player complaining about a noisy crowd in DC match:(
     
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  42. woodrow1029

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    sounds like the commentator just doesn't know the rules.
     
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  43. Rozroz

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    that was a bit to annoying.. a big shout right as Almagro hit the ball at serve?
     
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    I don't care who you are, that there is funny! -Larry the Cable Guy
     
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  45. Rozroz

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    so if a ball called out, game stopped, Berdych challenges and it's in, it's a replay?
     
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  46. woodrow1029

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    If the player "had a play on the ball", then yes. If it is a clear winner, then no. But if it was called out, Almagro had a play on the ball, and stopped because it was called out, then yes.

    You don't actually have to hit it. YOu just have to have a play on the ball. Now, if he let it go because he thought it was out, then the line umpire made a late call, and it was corrected to good, then he can't replay it.

    Without seeing it, I can't say if I agree with the decision or not, but from what I read, it sounds like replay the point was the correct decision.
     
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  47. Rozroz

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    thanks. seems like the right call.
     
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    I didn't hear the call. I thought Ramos had overruled it afterwards.
     
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  49. Crayola Oblongata

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    This is what I'm wondering...
     
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  50. norbac

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    Berdych is a very decent defender for being such a tall guy.
     
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