Davydenko back to Prince? - Done with Dunlop already?!?

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  1. themitchmann

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    I know there is another thread about this, but I'm just so shocked I wanted to start anew. As a loyal Prince player, I was a little tweaked when he went to Dunlop. This guy BASHED the Prince name last year, but now it looks like he wants back in.

    Here's a link to the original thread (page 2 has the pics of the racquet in question): http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=346453&page=2

    From the pics (from Dubai), I'm guessing it might be a blacked-out EXO3 Tour.

    When I think about why he would switch back to Prince, I can't say I'm surprised. His results with the Dunlop were less than stellar (especially when you consider that he reached #3 in the world using a Prince racquet with O3 technology). Maybe the improved playability of the EXO3 line he'll be able to regain his standing at the top of the rankings.

    That makes at least two players in the last couple of months (with Hantuchova switching back to Prince from Volkl after only a couple days) who tried to move on, but couldn't. It seems the EXO3 Tours require a longer playtest to get accustom to the unique feel, but overall, players (in my club and on these boards) seem to really like the performance of the frames.

    Glad he is finally making decisions that will benefit his performance, not his wallet.

    It'll be interesting to see what Davydenko ends up doing...I'm still waiting for the new Rebel, though!!!
     
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  2. Trevor

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    I think Prince would do well to open up their racket lineup with some hole-less rackets even if it's limited to a 'Tour' series or something. I can't imagine they'd have too much trouble getting a top player to endorse one.
     
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    what is all this ? I thought EXO 3 tech was like the God given invention? and it was the best thing that actually works out there for control and power ??
     
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    Maybe that's why he's switching back to Prince.
     
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    Is that a Princelop?
     
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    Nope, it's a Dunprin! They are very similar tho...
     
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    Not a Princelop or a Dunprin. It's a Dunce. Or a dunce? :)
     
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    And didn't he just release an article talking about how he was giving up his Prince frames and was going to use only his Dunlops?
     
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    I know...that's why this whole thing is so crazy. I don't understand why he just didn't stick with Prince in the first place!!!

    (besides the money factor)
     
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    did he ever actually use dunlop or just a paintjob?
     
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    Honestly I think that Prince was foolish for not paying him more after he had that really hot streak. He was the top male player using their brand and they could have afforded to throw some more cash at him.

    Now maybe since Masha is with Head they can afford to buy him back.

    And how is Prince not suing Dunlop for stenciling what is obviously one of their frames?
     
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    Yes, he did! :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    Christ how pathetic, on so many levels.
     
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    I don't want to speculate on the details of the racquet contract, but I think Davy would have gone wherever the money was. Even if Prince offered more money, I he would have used that to leverage another company into paying him more. Looks like his desire to fatten his wallet hasn't paid off.

    He just needs to worry about using equipment that helps him to perform at the highest level. For him, looks like it's Prince.
     
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    Davy was problem hoping to get an offer on the hook the get Prince to cough up cash. He had to leave when Prince said no but now Dunlop can't make a frame that he likes to use so he is in between the rock and the hard place.

    Some players have stuck it out while contracts were in negotiation or they were even dropped but got picked up again after they had gotten some better results.
     
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    I thought I saw Davydenko with a dunlop stencil vs Berdych??
     
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    It wads blacked out and had a dunlop stencil, but it was not a Dunlop.
     
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    I have found that the _Port tech rewards a smooth decisive swing , no matter what the Prince power level may say. If davy got hooked to that feel, which so many on this board dislike, than any non_port frame is going to weigh on his mind.
     
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    First Verdasco and now Davydenko.... it's looking bad for these biomimetic frames
     
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    Sounds almost as if Davydenko conspired with Prince to make Dunlop look bad.:twisted:
     
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    Hey maybe Dunlop just bought some holes for him?, I heard Prince sell them pretty cheap at the moment:)
     
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    Haha wow i would think he'd at least try it for a while i mean the 200 plus was made for him to endorse. When did verdasco decide not to use them?
     
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    Davy and Verdasco need to see a psychiatrist LOL :) Why can't they be like Rafa and Fed who never seem to blame their rackets whenever something goes wrong with their games?
     
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    Paging Dr. Freud, please. Paging Dr. Freud.
    A mister davydasco and a mr. Verdenko are here to see you. Dr. Freud please, paging Dr. Freud.
     
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    Rafa and Fed stayed true to their roots, and were well compensated, the others were not so well compensated and hence their dilemma.



     
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    Appreciate his talent

    I think in tennis a pro should play wih the racket that best adjusts to his game, but in a world of offers and money it is not that simple.

    Nonethelless, Davydenko is one of the most underrated players and with enormous talent.

    I hope he can bounce back and be the best he can be, consistently.:)
     
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    Uhh~
    why do we need new Rebel:confused:
    if prince try to do something with Rebel, they might have more problems.
    I don't want to see anything new from rebels.
    New paint job might be good but I don't think it will happen Since Prince try to push Rebel lines nowadays. what a bad marketing!!! Three years later, they release all new rebel gears (shoes, bags)...... I don't understand :confused:

    Prince should bring Japanese rebels both 95 and 105 in US.
    much better rackets for recreational players.
     
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    ^^^I don't want a major change in the Rebels. Maybe a more open string pattern option, or relocating the tie-off location for the last cross. And...a new PJ, just for kicks!
     
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    Is it bad location?
    I just bought a stringing machine (two months ago), I am still learning how to string. knots are always difficult for me.
    yesterday, I tried to make the last cross knot and pulled a little hard then broke the string:evil:
    I did not want to restring so I will test it whether restring or use it until break the string.
     
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  31. themitchmann

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    There is just not a lot of room to tie a knot, especially with a thicker gauge. It's not a major issue.
     
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    Mitchmann can you confirm what prince racket Davydenko switched back to- it is hard to tell in the photographs? Think Masha should be next to go back?! Afterall she won 2 of ther 3 grand slams with the technology too so we know it worked for her also.
     
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    I can't confirm 100%, but I'm guessing it's an EXO3 Tour.

    Your right, it did work for Masha. Maybe she'll eventually come back as well.
     
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    Actually according to the sages and mystics on our forum, Federer's racket IS TO BLAME. He needs a larger head, and perhaps a move to Babolat to win anything anymore. He's too obstinate to blame his rack :)
     
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    Anyone have any other pics of tue Davy re-switch?
     
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  37. slice bh compliment

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    I'm sure he will stick with the racquet that's clearly an extension of his hand, but....can you imagine the penetrating shots and the reduced shank factor if he switched to a 95 head? After a short transition, he'd be the best again.
     
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    To the OP, it doesn't seem like Davy is going back from what I've heard. If he does, then Prince is probably pissed about his blacked out frame. Sharapova is done as well and is supposedly going to a denser string pattern Head frame.
     
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    He's playing with a blacked out Prince stick...that much is obvious. I don't know what wil happen with his contracts...

    I merely started this thread to point out that he is using a Prince stick after badmouthing the company and saying he'd throw his old frames in the trash.

    I'm not a Sharapova fan, but I think Prince could have built her a racquet that would have worked for her. I think she was pressured a bit by her customizing company to switch to another brand (from what I hear). I don't think her switch to Head will help her career at all...just like switching frames won't turn many of us into touring pros ;).
     
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    So he went to the Moscow Main Garbage Dump, excavated the rackets he'd thrown away 6 months earlier, painted them black and is playing with them again ?
    Cool.
     
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    Yup. Guess so ;).
     
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    Prince is pissed at them both, so if he is using one, it's because Dunlop just isn't working for him, not that he's going back to Prince. They both burned a couple of bridges over at Prince, that much is obvious.
     
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    Dont blame Daveydenko I've used every version of the Dunlop 200 but the latest is very difficult to hit with.

    I hope Davy can get settled on a racquet and regain his form. Just love to watch his "stroke machine". :)
     
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    I've been wondering this for years! Malisse and Rochus are still endorsing hole-less Prince racquets that are almost a decade old. Plus, the paintjobs for all the others trying to peddle the newest frames are complete jokes (Querrey, Isner, Bartoli).
     
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  47. slice bh compliment

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    Yep.
    It's just sad how pro players want to play with what they like, but still want free product and endorsement contracts so they 'sell out' to companies who want to sell stuff to yutzes who believe their games will improve with a racquet choice. Complete joke. But it's been going on for as long as I can remember.

    I miss the days of the $24 Maxply or Pro Staff. Yeah, some of the pro got the best wood, but for the most part, there weren't paintjobs and farcical contract breaches. Although, Laver's wooden Dunlop painted to look like a metal Chemold has got to go down as the most ridiculous (sorry if I spelled that a little cray cray) paintjob ever.

    Oh, and [EDIT] back on topic...
    I've hit with the new biomimetic 300, 300Tour, 200 plus, 200 and 200 lite. The 300tour and the 200 are just awesome. I assumed the whole aeroskin thing was a gimmick. But these are stable, fairly heavy-ish frames that move through the air like a dream. The feel/layup is great, too. I do think it's enough of a change for a pro used to an older model to hem and haw. Again, it's not that it's a bad racquet. It's that so-n-so/Verdenko/Davydasco, et al cannot get used to it and wants his wooby back.
     
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    Every company is doing this. There is only a small percentage of top players that actually use a retail version of the frame that they endorse.

    Rochus is another story, but the Diablo (Malisse) is still available (however, I believe Malisse uses a older frame that is painted like the Diablo - can't remember the name of the frame though).
     
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    Im sure the average recreational/club player could cope perfectly well using a pro's exact racquet specs - authenticity sells so i don't understand why they don't give the consumer the real deal - I should be able to walk into my local shop and come out with the latest 'Isner' or 'Query' model - If companies just sold stock frames that pros like the industry would be better - I see this happening in the future -
     
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    Either my sarcasm meter is off, or you are very much misinformed. Why on earth would you want to play with someone else's racquet? The whole point of it being YOUR racquet is that it is customised/bought to fit your needs. You want it at a certain weight with a certain balance, not "whatever Isner has". And the reason they're using those racquets is because those are the ones that they are used to. The companies paint the racquets to make it look like the new ones they're promoting, and some players might feel these newer racquets give them something extra, so they might switch, but others might feel more comfortable with the older frame, so they stick with it. At the end of the day, just pick the racquet that you think suits your game best. And it's not like the newer racquets are false advertising; a junior is going to start off with a brand new APDCGT now, and then once they make their way up the rankings they're more than likely going to stay with that racquet and get it PJ'd to look like the next APDCGT turbo boost GOATracquet.

    EDIT: also, it's not like those racquets weren't available at some point. They're just older models, not some PE that the public can't use.
     
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