dbl-hander waiting position

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  1. drummerboy

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    Hi

    How do you guys keep your hands in the waiting position if you play dbl-hander. I am used to have right on the grip and the left on the throat, but I am seeing that majority of WTA player are having both hands on the grip for the groundstrokes (not for the slice and volleys offcourse). On the man's tour I only saw that Leyton is playing with both hands on the grip in the waiting position. How do you guys play and which is the better way to do it because sometimes I feel I loose some of my time when getting the hand down for the dbl-hander. I actually once tried it with both hands on the grip but then my forehand felt weird. Maybe I just need some time to get used to it.

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  2. Rickson

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    Left hand over right. I keep the left hand on the throat only if I know I'm not using a 2hbh that game, but if I want to keep the option of using it open, left hand over right with no space in between.
     
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  3. TennsDog

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    Andy Roddick also has both hands on the grip while waiting to return serve, not sure about during a rally, though. Anyway, sometimes I wait with both hands and sometimes I wait with left hand on throat. I don't feel it makes much of a difference, I just find it more comfortable to have left hand on the throat, probably because I am more used to it as I was taught and have been using it for many years. When I do my takeback on the backhand side, I have two hands which makes it easier to get my left hand back into position if it is on the throat so I don't lose much time. If I am hitting a forehand, then I keep the left hand on the throat and use it to get my shoulders turned and setup for my shot. If I had to pick one, I would probably say keep hand on throat. That also makes it easier to let go and go defense or slice.
     
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  4. Rickson

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    Left over right is the most basic position for a righty. I only stopped using that position when I started hitting a 1hbh in place of a 2hbh.
     
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  5. Bungalo Bill

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    For a twohander I highly recommend you imitate the top pros.

    Almost all of the good twohanders wait with the top hand over the right and rarely see them with the hand on the throat. Onehanders will have a waiting grip like that.

    You need to do this after you serve as well.
     
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  6. predrag

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    Whatever you do, on the court you should imitate top pros. Since they are
    so good, they must be doing something right.
    However, I think that there is some confusion about what each pro does.

    For 2hnd backhand I recommend dominant hand in relaxed forehand grip, and non-dominant
    hand relaxed backhand grip.
    This way, if the ball comes to the forehand all player needs to do is turn shoulders, no grip change
    needed. If the ball comes to backhand, non-dominant hand is in the correct grip, and should be
    pulling racquet back, giving enough time for the dominant hand grip change.

    For 1hnd backhand I recommend non-dominant hand on the bridge of the racquet, everything
    else being same as 2hnd

    Regards, Predrag
     
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  7. tetsuo10

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    I recommend the two hands on the grip at the baseline. Less movement makes things much easier. As you move towards the net, I would move the left hand up to the throat, as it makes it easier to keep the head up.
     
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  9. drummerboy

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    Sorry guys I see that the majority of the votes have been for both hands on the grip which sucks imo. I tried it for some time and wasn't comfortable with it. I am much more solid with the hand on the throat and then coming down. So I gotta go with TennsDog on this one. And the second thing is that I think that the majority of good two handers on the man's tour wait with their hands on the throat. It is the chicks that play with both hands on the grip. Thanks anyway for your thoughts.
     
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  10. Rickson

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    I totally disagree. I see most 2hbh players waiting with the hand over hand technique. The only 2hbh players I see who wait with the off hand up high, are the ones who use both types of backhands, i.e. Moya. Please name the pure 2hbh players who wait in this position because I can't think of any.
     
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  11. drummerboy

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    No problemo Rickson. Everybody has their own opinion. When you will be looking at the next slam take a look at the guys like Coria, Nalbandian, Ferrero, Canas etc. There is too much of them to count them. I think there is like 80% of them. The only two with the both hands on the grip playing the chicks way that I saw would be Hewitt and Clement. Maybe the players you are talking about wait with the both hands on the grip when receiving the serve but during the rally the left hand is definitely on the throat. It is much more natural to hit the good forehand with the hand on the throat not the grip. You are prepared for the slice also and for the dbl-hander the hand just slips down.
     
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  12. Bungalo Bill

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    Not true. Good twohanders are usually baseline players to all court players and they will wait with both hands over each other.

    If they hit a forehand, they will catch the racquet on the followthrough and glide the hand back down ready to hit a twohander and adjust the grip. This is called efficiency.

    Onehanded players will wait with the hand on the throat as that helps with bringing the racquet back while at the same time changing grips and stabilzing the racquet head.

    If you prefer to wait that way, that is your deal but the preferred way for twohanders is to be ready to hit your backhand by waiting with both hands together.
     
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  13. Rickson

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    I have Agassi playing Coria on tape and they're both using the hand over hand technique.
     
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  14. drummerboy

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    Ok guys you know it all and I am gonna leave it. I will just say watch it on the next slam or the tournament and then tell me what you saw. Watch Canas or Nalbandian how they do it.
     
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  15. Rickson

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    Agassi sometimes waits up high, but he mixes it up a lot. Coria is definitely more of a 2 hand waiter.
     
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  16. kreative

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    i'd also go w/ the non-dominant hand on the grip. for righties, this would mean right hand in forehand grip, left hand in backhand grip (on the grip, not the throat)
     
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  17. Bungalo Bill

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    Drummerboy, this is such a preference item that it really isnt worth arguing over where to put the top hand. You as well as the rest of us could all make an argument on which is "better" or which is "preferred".

    The point is just do what you want to do. It is just not something worth arguing over.
     
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  18. drummerboy

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    You misunderstood it Bill. I don't want to argue with you or anyone else. This is the last thing that comes to my mind. I was just checking the possibilities and checking if anyone knows something about the topic. If I think about it now yes it sounds like a stupid topic but I am just curious and want to improve my game and if there is a better way why not try it.
    Sorry if it sounded bad Bill. We will leave it as it is.

    Au revoir lol :wink:
     
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  19. Bungalo Bill

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    I dont think it sounded bad and didnt take offense to anything you said. I just think that if your having a problem with preparation, then you might want to consider the two hands together, if not, then opt for the hand on the throat if that feels better to you. Either way, certain things are more preference items rather than rules.

    I think you know what I mean.
     
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  20. Rickson

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    BB and I don't agree often, but one thing we can agree on is we watch the pros play and the disagreement between you and us was that you said most 2hbh pros wait in the hand high position while we said most wait in the hand over hand position. I see some 2hbh hitters like Moya and Roddick waiting with the hand up high, but not all the time. Keep in mind these guys hit a good percentage of their backhands one handed although 2hbh is the majority of their backhand returns. My opinion, if you like to use both backhands, keep your off hand up high, but if you're strictly into 2 handers, the hand over hand technique is more efficient, maybe not more comfortable for you, but more efficient.
     
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  21. luirozzi

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    drummerboy wrote :
    You discredit yourselves by taking Canas as an exemple for a thread concerning the 2HBH, because he is a one hander, and on the ATP Tour, the vast majority of the 2HBH players wait with the 2 hands on the grip, it is not just my opinion, it is ONLY A FACT!
     
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  22. drummerboy

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    :shock: Canas has a onehanded backhand. Man you learn something new everyday lol. Well I just saw his match in Umag and he must of have switched to a 2hb just recently haha.

    I stll stand by my statement . 70% of doublehanders wait with the left hand on the throat. Well let's leave this thread as it is.
     
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  23. luirozzi

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    Luirozzi wrote :
    I discredit myself by saying that Canas is a one hander, because he is actually a 2 HBH player. :oops:

    But in all bad faith, I have an excuse : the guy is so often injured that the last time I saw him playing tennis was 2 years ago, long enough to forget details about him. :wink:
     
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  24. drummerboy

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    No problemo luirozzi. You will sure be seeing a lot of him from now on. He is a good player and he is getting back in the groove for sure.
     
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