DC to awarded ATP points

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Do you think Davis Cup should be awarded ATP points?

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  1. malakas

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    http://www.tennis-x.com/vachblog/2007-05-31/55.php

    Mr Disney has stiked again.[​IMG]
     
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  2. J-man

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    Then you lose the whole play for your country aspect. People just play for points. What happened for Patriosm and Team sprit. But it will get Federer and Nadal to play. Hell if you start awarding points why not some money?! geee...........
     
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  3. Moose Malloy

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    They get points for the World Team Cup, don't they? so what's the difference?

    I'm more interested in this:

    The players aren't the brightest lot, huh?
     
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    interesting stuff. i agree patriotism should be the motivation,not points. geez...
     
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  5. J-man

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    The difference is that no one really pays that much attention to World Team Cup. There's really no reason to hold that worthless crap in the first place. 2 players represent a country. It's really similar to Davis Cup isn't it?:roll:
     
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  6. EliteNinja

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    I say put points on everything and put a cap on how many tourneys you can enter before a scaling penalty.

    So if the cap was 25 tournaments and you entered in 35 at the end of the year and you had 1000 ATP points,

    Your points would be scaled: 1000*(25/35)

    down to: 714pts:p
     
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  7. rfprse

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    Awarding points for Davis Cup matches? To which level of competition? World Group only? Or any d. c. matches? It's another b.s.
    I don't see how they can make it work fair. It's not fair for someone to be able to get (more) points just because he is born in a strong tennis country which can form a good team.

    Btw, what happened to the guarantee "there's not going to be back to back masters in the new calendar". (umm...and wasn't it supposed to be coming from a concern for players health, to reduce the (excuse for) withdrawal, and one of the alleged reason to remove m.c and hamburg from the series?)
     
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  8. malakas

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    No,they think awarding points to davis cup matches.!:rolleyes:

    I don't know what Mr Disney says to persuade the players but it seems to be working!Yes,that was the alleged reason and many top players have made interviews complaining about that and now they have agreed on back to back again.:roll:

    But Ljubo has said,that there hasn't been yet a definite desicion about the new masters.Still it's due for before Wimby.
     
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  9. malakas

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    btw it's a big difference between Davis Cup and World Team Cup.Only a couple of countries play in WTC and only for a week or so while DC takes up for several weeks every year,all around the world.So the points one could gain this way,would be much more than in WTC.

    Besides,noone really pays much attention to WTC anyway.

    DC should be about the patriotism not about the points.
     
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  10. LeftyServe

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    It's my understanding that no points are awarded for World Team Cup.
     
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  11. LeftyServe

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    Federer can't really be worrying about the points, can he? If he's not playing Davis Cup because he's concerned about his ranking points, then there's really something a little off in his psyche. I'd hate to see a decision to start awarding points and see someone like Federer, who's been so indifferent, be the beneficiary. It's the guys who consistently support their country that deserve point recognition, guys like Safin, Nalbandian, Hewitt. How about a guy like Ferrer who was on the team for the US tie in April -- didn't even play -- but sacrificed preparation for the next week's tourney in his hometown of Valencia.
     
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  12. rfprse

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    ? :confused: just in case my post wasn't clear....

    I was wondering what would be the point scheme for doing that.
    Is it going to be the same points for playing any rounds in any group/level?
    I don't think they will do that if they were to assign points for davis cup playing.

    So, my question was if it's fair to assign atp points to davis cup play.
    I don't think it is, for giving more points to higher rounds (or groups) makes someone's nationality too much of a factor at deciding how many points he will get for davis cup playing.

    It's already good for those who have a major in his country because of the benefit of the wild card.
    If davis cup awards ranking points, it's another way of getting nationality systematically into one's ranking, let alone a player's being part of a strong team shouldn't mean much in terms of individual tennis ability/result (which tour ranking is supposed to reflect) when compared to another player who has a same tour result but no luck of having strong enough teammates.
     
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