Defeated #1 Seed or Defending Champion - Djokovic, Federer, and Nadal

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  1. McEnroeisanartist

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    Defeated the #1 Seed at a Grand Slam
    Djokovic - 2
    Federer - 2
    Nadal - 6 (the record) - 3 times (06 French, 07 French, 08 French), he defeated Federer, when Federer should not have been the #1 seed.

    Defeated the Defending Champion at a Grand Slam
    Djokovic - 4
    Federer - 2
    Nadal - 1
     
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  2. Sabratha

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    Nadal does well when he isn't the underdog is what that statistic says.
     
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  3. woodrow1029

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    Why should he not have been the #1 seed?
     
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  4. Sabratha

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    I think he's implying that the French Open should have a similar seeding equation as Wimbledon - in which the seeding is finalized by their total win(s) and results on grass.
     
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  5. McEnroeisanartist

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    Yes that is what I am implying. I mean I know the French love Federer, but did the tournament organizers, or anyone for that matter, think that Federer, and not Nadal would win the French Open, in 2006, 2007, and 2008.
     
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  6. kOaMaster

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    it's hard to win against the defending champion or the number one seed when you're both yourself.

    although I like your threads, you had better.
     
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    This. Close thread.
     
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  8. kalyan4fedever

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    Right considering that nadal should win both the records i guess.
     
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    lawl, good point

    we should revaluate nadals french open wins, then, as he never beat the defending FO champ
     
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    Are Federer's 2 wins - RG2011 & Wimby 2012 - both against Nole?
     
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  11. McEnroeisanartist

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    Against Novak at Wimbledon 2012 and Sampras at 2001 Wimbledon.
     
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    Pretty much sums it up for me.
     
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    That's the defending champions. The no. 1 seeds are what Dark magician said.
     
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    The opponents that Federer beat who were the defending champions were also the #1 seeds. Sampras was defending champion in 2001 and #1 seed. Djokovic was defending champion in 2011 and #1 seed.
     
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    They didn't seed Djokovic #1 for the Australian Open in 2009, when he was the defending champion. Wimbledon is the odd one out.
     
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  16. tacou

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    2006 was only his second FO ever...even as defending champion it would have been foolish and disrespectful to Fed to seed Nadal #1.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that during those years, even if they used the same formua as Wimbledon, Federer probably would have been the #1 seed anyway.
     
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  18. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    How embarrassing for a world number one to be utterly dominated at a slam by one player over such a long period of time.
     
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  19. kishnabe

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    Not an embarrassing as going 0-7 against Djokovic across all surfaces. At least Federer domination by Nadal was on Clay alone.
     
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  20. Razoredge

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    Don't worry, Djokovic will know how it feels soon. :)
     
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  21. Cup8489

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    I thought Fed was gonna win RG2006, especially after he steamrolled the first set.

    Ah... Days Gone By.
     
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  22. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    Of which, Nadal only went 0-3 in 3 slams. Whereas Nadal thoroughly dominated Federer 8-2 in slams and 18-10 overall across ALL surfaces. Never has a world number one ever been so horribly owned by a world number two.
     
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  23. DropShotArtist

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    LOL, lots more time for Djokovic to add to the 3-0 over his beeatch Nadal.
     
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  24. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    3-0 in slams?

    Nadal is 6-3 vs Djokovic in slams, and has won their last slam meeting (including their last THREE encounters). And Nadal still leads the H2H 19-14. The only rivalry in the top 4 where there are puppies is Nadal vs Murray and Nadal vs Federer, where both Murray and Federer are Nadal's pets.
     
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  25. Tony48

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    How many times have they all faced the No. 1 seed/defending champion?
     
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  26. DropShotArtist

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    Nadal is 1-3 vs Djokovic 2.0 in slams.
     
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