Definitive position on Rafa withdrawing and the draw

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  1. batz

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  2. rhubarb

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    Interesting! It appears that some of my previous posts were slightly erroneous, as they've modified the rule to include a special procedure for the withdrawl of a top 4 seed; sorry about that. (Admittedly I last read it a couple of years ago.)

    So this is the relevant bit:

     
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  3. batz

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    No need for apologies mate - was an honest mistake.
     
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    thanx very much batz for this info!:)
    And rhubarb too good job,you're very knowledgable poster!:D
    I think this rule makes more sense and will lead to much more balanced draws.
     
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  5. ChanceEncounter

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    Hmm, so the beneficiary of this could be Del Potro?

    Is it a coincidence that Del Potro is a big Federer fan?

    Conspiracy theorists, go!
     
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  6. gj011

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    Thanks for the info.
    Not fair to the #2, #3 and #4 seeds, but that is life.
     
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  7. batz

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    I agree that it might've been nice to allow some pragmatism, but those are the rules; everyone just has to get on with it.
     
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  8. dh003i

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    Does it really matter? There isn't a significant difference between #1 and #2 seedings.
     
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  9. RoddickAce

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    But there is a difference between #2 and #3. If everyone moved up one spot, then Murray will be guarenteed not to meet Fed until the finals.
     
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  10. JennyS

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    The crap will hit the fan in the UK if Murray winds up in Roger's half. I have a feeling he will:p
     
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    Why? I actually feel that it would be easier (relatively of course) for Murray to beat Fed in the semi than in the final.
     
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    True. Then again, they'd probably prefer him to play Del Potro or Djokovic in the semis since neither player has ever been to a Wimbledon final.

    And I know Murray has a great record against Roger, but as many have pointed out, beating Roger in a best of 5 match is a different animal.
     
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    Murray got a practice session in USO 2008. I'm sure he will do better the second time! On hard at least, I still have my doubts about Murray and grass but the Queen's win is encouraging...
     
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    And Murray is going to be under so much pressure. It's going to be worse than Henmania! All of those fans camped out on Murray Mountain screaming "COME ON ANDY" and going crazy over every point. Can't wait:)
     
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    That is good to know, makes things even more interesting as now Murray might want to not be on Fed's side and get the super cakewalk to the finals and than beat Fed there instead of risking chance at losing to him in the semis.
     
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    Ha , Ha , Ha, all you Murray lovers are going to be crying in your Guiness. It's a joke, you think Rog is gonna let a punk like Murray set the tone at Wimbledon? Murray has to get there first, let alone win it. The field at these grass court warm ups has been pathetic and that's being gracious. At this point Haas could be in the final so don't give me any **** about Murray
     
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    Maybe - if he gets drawn in Roger's half and doesn't choke this time ;)
     
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    This thread deserves a bump now.

    So if this is correct, Del Potro (#5 seed) is taking Nadal's spot in the draw, Blake i(#17 seed) s taking Del Potro's spot, I think Kiefer (highest ranked unseeded player) is taking Blake's spot as a seed, and LL (not sure who) is taking Kiefer's spot.
     
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  19. forehand_dude

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    Huge break for Blake. He should coast into the final 16 now.
     
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    What I want to know now is how this will affect the order of play. I am going on the Friday of the first week and I had assumed I would be watching Nadal. But now I guess I will either see Murray or Federer as they are in opposite halfs of the draw, it depends on which one is playing Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
     
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    That's stupid; either fill it with a LL or redo the draw. How do they justify moving up the 17 seed to the 5 position? DelPotro hasn't done squat on grass; move him to no 1?

    If Roddick had been the no 5 seed, (as he should have been I think, based on prior results on grass vs Del Potro), then this might have made sense. Then you'd have Roddick, Murray, Djokovic, and Federer as the top four seeds.
     
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  22. tacou

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    why doesn't #9 take #5 spot?
     
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  23. vive le beau jeu !

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    strange...

    i'm wondering the same... that doesn't sound very logical. [​IMG]
    they rearrange the top4 spots, the top16, the top32... but not the top8 ?! :?
    is there any justification for that ?
     
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  24. tacou

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    if anyone has any clue that'd be cool
     
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