Del Potro, about his racquets and possible change (spanish)

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    Google Translate Version

    Hey guys did the best I could with Google translate




    NEW YORK - Juan Martin del Potro, No. 6 world ranking, has no current contract with no signature racket. The Argentine did not renew agreement with Wilson and, according to estimates by experts, is resigning over a million dollars a year by not having contractual relationship with U.S. firm (or any other company). Not only that: the 2009 U.S. Open champion is playing with rackets that many could be considered "old", they already have about 4 years.

    Welcome, then, to this curious story of the best Latin American player of today and their "weapons". Those that help in their greatest triumphs, but deny that higher incomes.

    "The bike is my weapon of work. Do not change. I feel very comfortable with my shoe, and I think that is critical. Racket is what I need to play. While you are playing this way, doing well and confidently it is difficult to make a change, "said Del Potro ESPNtenis.com Sunday in New York.

    The Argentine played for five years with the Wilson K Factor Six-One 95, the model which won here four years ago. The season following his conquest in Flushing Meadows, Juan Martin tested a new model in official matches. But the change was short lived. Executives test offered other options, as well as "make" his old racket with the look of the new versions of the American brand. But everything remained as at first.

    "I tried in 2010. Had hand problems. Tried a couple of times this year.'s A normal process, but the schedule is set, it is difficult to find a period where you can say change of racket, and if I go bad nothing happens. Federer tried to change and now returned to his old racket. A change Djokovic cost him to Head Wilson. broke several racquets in that process, "said Del Potro.

    But Juan Martin not only uses an older model of racket, but uses the same rackets with playing in the last decade. And they are few.

    - How many rackets have now?
    - Four, responds Franco Davin, coach of Del Potro. And speaking with the expert strung Wilson that his pupil in this U.S. Open.

    "The rackets are widely used. I asked if we could change the plastic (which is on the head of each racket), but I said no. Nor do they want to change the grommets" which are plastic holes where the strings pass said Joe Heydt, stringing racquets manager of Del Potro at Flushing Meadows.

    "So far it has brought three stringing rackets," says Heydt. "Not at risk of breaking in the stringing process, because they have no cracks. But the head of the racket is impaired.'s Funny: this deterioration is one side of the frame. Apparently (John Martin) always hits the right with the same side of the racket. And that side of the head is in worse condition. The other side, however, is better. Finally, each player must do what you think it should feel good with your paddle and keep winning. "

    In the case of Del Potro, the winning ways with his "old" rackets not go hand in hand with what could be earning by way of advertising contract in that area.

    "The income resigned partly depend on their results, but I think that would be close to or over a million dollars a year," said a person with knowledge of the business of the courts to ESPN. According to another source, the non-renewal of the contract in 2013 was consensual. Both sides have a good relationship. Both the player agreed to continue painting the "W" on their ropes, and continues to receive support from other Ron Rocchi, shoe expert U.S. company.

    Rocchi, however, knows that the subject Del Potro-racket-Wilson is "delicate". And excuse to talk about it, here in New York, without first asking permission.

    - These rackets that you have, would you give him some kind of special care?
    - Y. .. I have to take care of, have more use, poor. I'm not breaking rackets. If I had twenty, not break them. But now that I'm with few persons, the care a little more, says John Martin.

    Del Potro, then, "is on the market" and available to negotiate a new contract rackets. "For next season I'll have a change," said Del Potro, who until now has remained loyal to a feeling that only he can explain his success in tennis is largely linked to the use of their old rackets, the same with which he won his only Grand Slam title to date, and help it become a serious threat to the trio Djokovic-Nadal-Murray in the U.S. Open.

    So for now, the shoe tie has been touched.
     
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    That translation makes my brain hurt.
     
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    Google translate is great for the gist as usual but with a few errors:

    Both words in bold should actually be translated "racquet." (As should the word "paddle" further down and the word "shoe tie" in the last sentence of the article, which really means "for now, it's hands off Del Potro's racquets.")

    Also:
    This should be "The change from Wilson to Head was difficult for Djokovic. He broke several racquets in the process."

    This actually said, "apparently Juan Martin always hits the forehand with the same face of the racquet." (kind of an interesting fact)


    This actually should be something like "I'm not the kind of player who breaks racquets." (DP is talking about his character, not just his current practice).
     
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  5. Bobby Jr

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    Yeah, am also surprised (if true) that he only has four frames. He still has a massive tennis bag - he should downsize.
     
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    Very interesting. What are the odds that he ends up with another racquet company? Probably nonexistent, but it would be interesting if he went a completely different direction and picked up...I don't know....Prince, Tecnifibre, Yonex, or Solinco. Would never happen, but some of those companies need a big name pro carrying their sticks. Del Potro would be a huge pick up. Of course, sounds like he's a bit of a head case about his racquets (a la James Blake), so likely no chance he switches.
     
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    Guess he must've been very sensitive (or even superstitious) to even a paintjob change. Granted I'm not all that familiar with Wilson's Pro Staff 95 line or mold...I find it surprising that as a player of this day an age that he couldn't just roll with a paintjob change whenever a new version came out. Was it ever really discussed in depth anywhere as to why that was the case? You look that the top guys, Djokovic, Nadal, Murray and Federer who seem to easily adapt to a new paintjob every time a new version of their racquets came out...it just puzzles me why Delpo couldn't do it.
     
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    Why do you find that interesting? Everyone pretty much does this. I always hit my forehands with one side and my backhands with the other side. I keep my racquet oriented with one particular side always up, so does Fed, so do a lot of players, both pro and amateur.
     
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    whatever you do DelPo just dont go to babolat
     
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    Just like Blake...
     
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    JMDP would be a perfect player to marketing the Head Prestige MP...
     
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    It's amazing that a top pro of Del Potro's caliber would only have 4 racquets, especially considering how hard he hits the ball and how many matches he plays and how much he needs to practice. It's even more amazing that he hasn't cracked all 4 of those racquets already, especially with all the restringings with poly necessary. And to think some 4.0 rec players think they need to have 6 matched racquets in order just to play league tennis is kind of funny. :)
     
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    They're not cracked, but like the guy in the article said, the bumper and grommets are ruined. I put some tubing in one at the French Open last year and I'm certain the exact same piece was in there when I strung them again 6 months later at the World Tour Finals.
     
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    i dont understand one thing.. how many kfavctors does del potro actually have today? cant wilson offer him more, sure they have some left in a warehouse lol
     
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    Jazar is correct - the frames are definitely not cracked and actually in pretty good condition. Below is a photo of one of his rackets in June this year, and the tubing as mentioned above is visible on the far side of the racket:

    [​IMG]

    We spoke with Franco about replacing the grommets and bumper, however Juan Martin is completely against the idea.

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    Don't get too attached to things, Delpo.
    Everyone has to let go sometime.
     
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    Del Potro is most definitely OCD about his racquets...lol
     
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    OT, but i would LOVE to have a machine like that Star 5 at home :)
     
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    Finally, some kind of an answer to the Del Potro racquet question.

    I admire Del Potro in a way for passing on a racquet endorsement contract potentially worth millions of dollars. That's insane! However, like he said, he'll probably have a contract next year. Wonder if he'll go sign with Wilson or go sell himself to Dunlop or something. For whatever reason, I see Dunlop suiting him. Yonex is possible too, given the Argentina connection (Nalbandian, Monaco).
     
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    why doesn't Delpo find some Wilson K Factor Six-One 95 on ebaiyy lol
     
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    Because he doesnt use ksix one 95
     
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    but again, he uses the W in the racket right??

    cant wilson simply make him a dozen of "his" k 95s????
     
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    The "w" doesn't mean much. I've seen rackets on tour with both babolat stripes and head logo on their strings. right now wilson can't make him his rackets because he doesn't have a contract.
     
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    He likes the rackets how they are now, which is very worn in. Give him a new version of exactly the same frame and it will feel too stiff for him because it hasn't been strung and used every week for the last 4 years.
     
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    Jamie is correct again here. To further add to this, he tried the racket below for just one practice. It is completely identical in specs, paint scheme, strings and tension to all his other rackets and the report back; "It did not feel right"

    [​IMG]

    Before anyone asks, it is a Pro Staff Classic 6.1 95 (18x20) under a K Six-One 95 paint scheme.

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    Now that's really strange. Is replacing the grommets and bumper going to affect how the racquet plays very much, if at all? I highly doubt it.

    Isn't he risking having his strings break in the middle of a crucial point by playing with broken grommets and worn out bumpers?
     
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    It is superstition, like the story that Sampras could sense the presence of stencil ink on the strings.
     
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    I find it interesting because I didn't know players did this! I certainly have no idea which face of the racquet I'm using to hit the forehand (maybe because I'm the rankest of amateurs). All I know is that I flip to the opposite one for a backhand.

    FWIW the pro stringer quoted in the article said "Es curioso" (it's a curious thing) about the fact that Delpo does this, so it sounds like he found it interesting as well...
     
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    I've heard people mention that Fed holds racket on the same side each swing, based on the wrap of the grip perhaps and the grooves on the grip/overlap.

    ??
     
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    I use only one side of the racquet to hit forehands and the other for backhands, it feels totally weird if I flip it, the grip is totally different in one side and the other. I think he is superstitious about his frame (cabulero in argentinean/spanish), when he tried to change both times he got his wrist injured. I think he will eventually sign a contract with wilson, it's just that wilson want him to endorse a new racquet and he doesn't want to change, so I guess they are negotiating what to do.
     
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    i dont get it, he is using a frame with 20 years old?? is this true?, i though it was a k95 with some modifications:shock:
    are you talking about these? http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8815/psc6195.jpg

    those are PS classic 6.1 95

    i also have a pair of these i dont use anymore, but strung them dozens of times, maybe he will buy them from me hehehe
     
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  32. BreakPoint

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    Well, Federer is using a racquet that's based on 30 year-old technology. There really haven't been any significant improvements in racquet technology since the introduction of graphite racquets almost 40 years ago. That's why those old graphite racquets like the POG Mid/OS, PS 6.0 85/95, PC600, PT280, PS 6.1 Classic, etc. are still so good and still so sought after. The PS 6.1 Classic is a very stiff and powerful racquet, and with it's 95 head, is definitely still a very viable racquet in today's modern game. I personally know people who still play with it, and Del Potro is not the only pro who's still using it under various paintjobs, I'd bet there are many who are.
     
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    Lazy americans. Instead of using google to make moronic translations, learn a new language. Expand your mind.
     
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    OK, then please translate this for us without using Google nor any other resource but your own mind:

    Zašto vas godinama nije bilo u medijima?
    - Uspeh koji je Novak napravio uz podršku svoje porodice je ogroman, planetarni. U početku smo pokušali da budemo iskreni s novinarima i razgovaramo o lepim i ružnim stvarima koje se dešavaju u porodici i oko nje. Međutim, većina njih nije to dobronamerno prenosila i nisu bili korektni kad je u pitanju ostatak porodice. Mislim da je to prava odluka jer je Novak broj 1, on je pravi Srbin koji šalje pravu sliku svuda po svetu o svom narodu i zemlji. Govori da je Srbija stara zemlja i civilizacija, da Evropa i Srbija ne mogu jedna bez druge. Nikad nije napravio grešku predstavljajući sebe, porodicu i narod. Pojedini ljudi iz njegovog okruženja ističu se u prvi plan, ali samo on je zaslužan za uspeh i niko osim njega. Ostali treba da dokažu svojim znanjem da su dovoljno uspešni kako bi mogli da se pojavljuju u medijima.

    Koliko je bilo teško doneti odluku da žrtvujete celu porodicu zarad njegovog uspeha?
    - Teška i rizična odluka koju smo doneli supruga i ja, niko nije mogao da garantuje da će nam se sve vratiti. Verovali smo u njega, u njegove igračke i ljudske kvalitete kao i svi roditelji. Najveći problem u svetu tenisa jeste nerealnost roditelja. Oni na taj način upropašćavaju decu, porodicu i u većini slučajeva to se završi strašno loše. Neće da čuju istinu koju im govore stručnjaci ovde i u svetu. Ja sam se dijametralno suprotno ponašao. Znao sam da je tenis skup sport, nepoznanica za nas, nisam stručnjak da procenim njegov kvalitet. Kad je imao osam godina, Jelena Genčić, koja mu je mnogo dala u životu, rekla je da je uz Moniku Seleš on najveći talenat kojeg je ikad videla. To je bilo ohrabrujuće za nas, ali nije odagnalo sumnje. Kako su godine prolazile, nismo čuli drugačije mišljenje ni od drugih stručnjaka.
     
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  35. Bobby Jr

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    He still has their stencil on his strings though.

    Maybe as long as he's using a frame supplied by them in his old contract he is required to.
     
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  36. Bobby Jr

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    I find it hard to believe also. Four frames being strung probably 50 plus times each per year - no way. I also doubt he only had four frames even given how huge his racquet bag is ha ha.

    Looking at a couple of recent pics where you can see the top of his frame it looks like he has got reasonably good condition bumpers on in some cases - poor in others. Hard to tell definitively. One side definitely gets a beating and the other hardly touched so we know he doesn't turn them around once worn at least. :lol:

    Good-ish image 1, image 2, image 3

    Poor-ish image 4...
     
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    Couldn't he use the newly made rackets (of his current model) for practice and his current ones for match play. That way by the time his current ones completely give out, he should have rackets which are broken in the way he likes them.
     
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    10-1 odds it "did not feel right" because of the vibration dampener [​IMG]
     
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    I'm hitting it with only one side like federer because of leather grip I'm using.
    I'm holding the racquet with butt cap is hiding in my palm like federer.
    You will feel the difference If you use leather grip and hold the racquet with butt cap is hiding in your palm.

    I think you're holding your racquet with butt cap is showing. Right?
     
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  40. ilovetennis212

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    Can you please translate it?
    I'm not being sarcastic here...
     
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  41. president.s

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    Yeah maybe that's the case. I'm just saying that stencil doesn't always tell the whole story. There was a French woman player in Wimbledon with both babolat and head stencil.
     
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    That just means she uses a Head racquet strung with Babolat strings (or vise versa).

    For example, Sampras played most of his career with both the Wilson "W" stencil and the Babolat 2 stripes stencil on his stringbed because he used a Wilson frame and Babolat gut strings. This is quite common.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Sources that are in the know are saying that Del Potro is in negotiations with Babolat and may endorse and use the Babolat Strike if all goes to plan.
     
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  44. mto

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    why shouldn't he go to babolat?
     
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  45. ilovetennis212

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    Babolat is clay court racquet specialist.
    Wilson is hard court racquet specialist.
    Del po is hitting hard and flat.
     
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    Wow.. what a ridiculous statement. :oops:
     
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    Juan Martin with the Pure Control or Pure Strike 2014 would be big for Babolat. To have two top 5 caliber players like Rafa and Juan Martin.... hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Something is cooking in Lyon me thinks.
     
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    does that mean that Roddick and Clijsters were clay court specialists?
     
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    Time for Delpo to go to HEAD.
    They are certainly one of the best in terms of customization.
    They could probably recreate the frame in a prestige or radical mold and call it a day. Weight, balance even the grommet spacing.

    Straight from Kennelbach!

    See you at the finish line delpo.
     
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    But everyone at TTW knows tennis! :)
     
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