Dementieva: "I just do not know how to serve."

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  1. BigboyDan

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    BBCNews.com -- Elena Dementieva broke down in tears as she tried to explain her performance in the French Open final.

    "I just do not know how to serve," said Dementieva after she delivered 10 double faults in her 6-1 6-2 defeat to fellow Russian Anastasia Myskina.

    "I just couldn't handle all the pressure and I was too excited. My concentration wasn't there."

    "I was rushing and I couldn't stop myself. I was losing point after point and couldn't change anything."

    However, Dementieva said she was determined to work on the mental side of her game ahead of Wimbledon.

    "I've had some good matches and now I know what it takes to get to the final of a Grand Slam and how hard it is and I understand that I have to be stronger mentally," she said.

    "I am going to work on that before Wimbledon."


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    Now, this woman needs some coaching, in so many areas of her game. Amazing for a Grand Slam finalist. Ten double faults is all mental. Choking big-time. One of the biggest problems that one-dimentional game players have is if their one-dimensional game is not working, there is no where else to go.


    For goodness-sakes somebody teach these women how to volley, hit a lob, serve a kick-serve, slice a backhand... Steffi Graf, where have you gone?
     
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  2. perfmode

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    Women have the mental toughness of 14 year old boys. Damn, grow up. This is PROFESSIONAL tennis.
     
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  3. a verrry large duck

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    hee hee hee the male ego is going full blast right now. I have to add that as I watched her serve I was pretty pumped up about how my serve was 10 times better than hers.
     
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  4. Feña14

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    Yeah I have been saying about this conference in my recent posts about my girl.

    She said she doesn't know how to and can't serve. Well she does pretty well for someone who doesn't know how to!

    As you know I really wanted her to win even if she can't she is still my favourite.

    I hope she gets her serve ready for Wimbledon as I will be cheering for her!!

    -Liam
     
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  5. perfmode

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    She's a PROFESSIONAL tennis player in a GRAND SLAM FINAL. She better know how to toss a ball and slice it.
     
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  6. pound cat

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    We'll look for you on the tour, duck LOL Have you guys read Mars/Venus? Rhetorical question. You'll never understand women & women will never understand men. but we keep trying. Lottsa fun.
     
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  7. Kobble

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    Poor girl! It is tough to lose that badly in the final of a major. Unfortunately, her serve is the female equivalent of Schalken's, and it is costing her big now. Should be fun to see if she can improve her technique.
     
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  8. Ronaldo

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    The Vitas of the new millenium.
     
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  9. Pushmaster

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    Good point. Dementieva is a terrific ball striker, but if you break down her groundstrokes she has nothing else to fall back on. Just goes to show you how weak the womens field is in general. Could you imagine Sjeng Schalken reaching a mens singles Grand Slam final with no serve? :shock:
     
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  10. !Tym

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    No. Schalken doesn't double fault in the spirt of "when it rains it pours."

    Better to at least tap the ball in consistently like Schalken than to tap it long, wide, and anywhere not in the box.
     
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  11. Pushmaster

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    I agree, at LEAST get the damn point started. :roll:
     
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  12. alfa164164

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    But Vitas could volley and cover the net.
     
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  13. ragnaROK

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    Sure her serve's weak but I think its more mental. Her serve may not be strong but when she at least has SOME confidence in it, she can hit a slice serve that swings out wide.

    Schalken has the strangest serving motion I've ever seen. It looks like his feet are glued to the ground!
     
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  14. Ronaldo

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    alfa, only meant the constant re-working of his serve.
     
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  15. Brent Pederson

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    It really is amazing that no one has taught her how to kick in a reliable second serve. All I can say is it's a real tribute to the rest of her game that she has managed to do as well as she has considering the huge deficit she creates for herself in this area.
     
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  16. Feña14

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    I felt really sorry for the poor girl.

    I really wanted her to win as you know and I didn't think the crowd was very sympathetic. They shouted out "Why don't you try it underarm??".

    Everyone started laughing at her. Now nobody would wish that on anyone, let alone a nice person like Elena.

    She cried twice during the match and shouted out "I hate my serve". I just hope she can sought it out and come back and win her share of GS titles.

    -Liam
     
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  17. pound cat

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    Elena sounds as confused as Marat...after the Mauresmo match whe said she liked her serve.
     
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  18. dax_q

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    It is nothing new. Capriati doesn't know how to serve. Hell, Myskina can't serve. Kournikova can't serve, Hingis had problems. I can go on and on. You almost never see that problem in men's tennis.
     
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  19. NoBadMojo

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    like brent sez. i think it is both a compliment to her abilities beyond the serve and the lack of depth on the womans tour, and the fact that they really dont have the girls working enough on service returns. i cant imgine she couldnt fix that serve if she wanted to. doesnt take a genius to know that she has no choice but to hit a slice to the forehand of a righty from both duece and add court with that ball toss location. i am just speculating here, but i think some players are happy when they have success and they know that in order to fix her serve, that would take time and playing thru some bad matches for a while and losing ranking points...and time is money of the pro tour and careers can be shortlived. if she wants to go to the next level , she really should fix her serve provided she doesnt have a physical impairment precluding that. she's a great athlete and she would be cleaning up big time if she had even a half decent serve IMO..just imagine if she had a serve that was a weapon;) this from watching her practice a few times and her practice sessions werent well organized or diverse which is hard to imagine at that level. ed
     
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  20. C_Urala

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    In the end of the second set, she screamed in Russian "I can't serve like that ANY MORE". It's not just her technique. It's all mental. Before the match, she said that Myskina always had an edge over her when they play for something. There are people who need more than one attempt. I think that next time (if it ever happens) she can beat Myskina.
    Of course, her serve needs an improvement. She must learn to keep it under pressure. But it will never be her weapon. Unfortunately.
     
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  21. @wright

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    Agassi says Schalken is the purest ball-striker on tour. Go figure.
     
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  22. Verbal_Kint

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    Schalken has an ugly serve, but it isn't bad results-wise. He gets it up to 170-180 kph, and manages it well. He can serve harder, but messes up his shoulder doing so.

    Marnix
     
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  23. Russell Finch

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    If Dementieva wants to feel better about that serve she should go and watch Kapros. Wimbledon crowds were laughing at her serve last year. The word ungainly doesn't come close...
     
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  24. Pushmaster

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    He would have to be, or at least way up there to make up for that serve. :wink:
     
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