Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Ross K

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    Yes, it's a good analogy imo... as to what I'm leaning towards, my heart says pro-stock YTPP, and my head is torn between the TF and the Babs...



    PP,

    Of all the frames i'm looking at I'd say the PSTGT and TGK/Pro-stock YTPP share more general traits than anything else, other combinations, etc... the head size is more similar; the pattern and flatter/lower/more driving ball trajectory is alike; the string-bed fee tends more towards the softer and more pockety side of things; the precision and control aspect is shared... and I could go on... however, this pro-stock frame, for me, is simply more enhanced and amplified all around in its qualities... dare I say it: I'm wondering if this is the closest I'll ever come to the mythical, much desired, "open pattern PT630"... but maybe a lot of that is down to my past adoration of certain Head frames (PT630, Rad Tour TT, Prestige mid, etc) and finding a familiarity here with the TGK?... whatever, there's certainly no doubt in my mind the PSTGT is absolutely superb and all over top-notch quality... I suspect if you like the YTPP, you'll like the PSTGT, and you might even find it a tad easier to use.


    Everyone,

    I suppose you can say that Panadora's box has indeed been opened!:roll:



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    Pstgt

    Got my hands on a couple of PSTGT's, I strung them up with 52# Typhoon, just like my ASTGT and hit the courts. A BIG thanks to Powerplayer for raving about this frame. The hype was big, but the PSTGT really delivered!

    I hate to jump on bandwagons and sound like the echoes of others, but this racquet is great. It's not as stiff as the ASTGT and hits a bigger ball off the ground. I'm hitting my biggest groundies with this thing. I love getting my feet set and really ripping into one, the ball just GOES. The noise this racquet gives when struck hard is a crazy, loud THWAP. Very much like my plush POG OS, which would be my fav frame of all time if I could serve better with it. I serve fine with the PSTGT. About the same as the ASTGT on flat serves, but the PSTGT gets a bit less spin for me on kick/slice serves.

    Maybe Typhoon just works really well in the PSTGT and not in the ASTGT, but the plush, flexy feel in the PSTGT is just plain awesome.

    Ross, you better knock it off with that pro stock stuff... My curiosity is reaching unbearable levels...
     
  3. Ross K

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    You know, I think you've just about covered it there anyhow JG...

    TBH though, I'm not so hung up on the whole pro-stock thing at all... I'm not so interested in all the debates and disagreements certain TTers engage in... I was even reluctant to mention the frame was indeed pro-stock for fear of such a big pro-stock discussion evolving... the only thing is... what with that awesome feel and control, it just plays so absolutely beautifully!:)



    cheers,

    Great stuff you like the PSTGT so much!



    PP,

    You ever hit with the PB10 mid? That's a very high-class frame imo and I'd say it has some 'ball-park' similarities to the PST. If I wasn't so preoccupied with my present tests, I wouldn't be averse to a further hit with it myself now tbh.. just a thought.


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  4. ryushen21

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    Ross

    re the TGK, the great thing is that they come so light that you can mod them to get the exact specs that you want and pretty much get that sweet swing that you are searching after.
     
  5. Ross K

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    Yes indeed... I wish though I could get my regular YTPP to a similar spec, balance and weighting, etc, but it ain't gonna happen right what with the differences between retail and pro-stock YTPP?


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    Well, when I mentioned pandora's box I really meant it. There are tons of threads dedicated to TGK and PT frames that have countless debates about materials, layups, hairpins etc. But I think that the general summation is that you could have a stock version of the frame and the TGK version modded to the same specs and that the TGK would have a different feel and swing to it.

    IMHO, there is a definite feel difference between the retail and TGK frames. Whether that difference is material, layup, atmospheric pressure, caffeine saturation of bloodstream, I have no idea.

    I can say they are great frames that you can setup exactly the way you want with ease that feel great.
     
  7. Ross K

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    Exactly. Must say I find the TGK, which I've had specially modded up, to play a lot better for me than the retail YTPP... shades of the mythical 'open pattern PT630', as I said earlier :) ... Quite what I can do to the YTPP to get it playing even anything like the p/stock, remains to be seen. Potentially, obviously as well, there's a problem with me just having the 1 p/stock YTPP. I'm not a tourney player, however, 2 frames (at least) is desirable. More hitting with it, and maybe the TF320 Vo2 too, hopefully this week.


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  8. Power Player

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    Cheers, that is great that you like the racquet. Your description seems dead on with mine. It is simply an awesome stick. I also agree that it does feel a little like those old prince graphites...that's a great observation.

    Ross, if i ever hurt my arm or had to go softer for some reason, the volkl would be a demo for sure. I am good to go for now and just learning the pstgt still, but I am still loving it the same as when i first picked it up.
     
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    So does the radical series or dunlop 300 series if your target spec is 320-ish grams unstrung or heavier.
    If you buy a mg/youtek radical MP or a dunlop ag 300 and you want to make it 320 grams unstrung you have some 25-30 grams to play with. If you can't get that "sweet swing that you are searching after" with that much room for customization...well..."it ain't the racquet".
    Just saying.
     
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    Ped, forgot to mention that this is exactly what the pstgt does for me. The cool thing is that I can still use a lot of spin, but the ball is much more driving.
     
  11. Ross K

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    :idea: Yes... and this would also apply to the TF Vo2 320, no?! :)


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    Errrrm, nope. I was answering to the "re the TGK, the great thing is that they come so light that you can mod them to get the exact specs that you want and pretty much get that sweet swing that you are searching after." remark.
    The 320 is already 320 grams unstrung, so unless you like the way it swings stock OR you have a target spec of 330/340 ! unstrung...you pretty much need to move on if you don't like it stock.
     
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    Howdy pardners!

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    Just to say I played with the TF V02 320 some more this morning, and imo, this frame is just the perfect weapon for...

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    Shall report in a bit more detail later.:)



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  14. Ross K

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    Some thoughts on the TF Vo2 32O...

    Played this morning, mainly with the TF (though I also put in some time with the p/stock YTPP.) Anyhow, let me tell you this - Tecnifibre have got it slightly wrong... they should lose the Samurai and replace him with a gunslinger - because half way through the first set, that's absolutely the image that came to my mind... an old Western gunslinger a la Jesse James... and the more I played with it - and I may add, the more I played aggressive, in your face, fast-paced, going for it tennis, the more the imagery struck a chord with me.

    This racket is out of the same stable as the APD, and also I'd argue, the YT Rad Pro, because the open pattern is WIDE open... it hits a very powerful, arching, spinny shot (the kind that I profess to like), and it also has something that is very similar to power, but I'd say it is slightly different in terms of how the ball moves, and that's zip... anyhow, zip... pop... call it what you will... when I used the N95 I used to call it 'x-factor' - and, like that frame, the TF Vo2 320 has the same added dimension... imo.

    So, it did seem to work well for me today. I handily beat a regular playing partner - someone who I definitely don't usually beat so convincingly. The racket and it qualities seemed to gel with the type of game that is perhaps my best, ie, quick-fire, aggressive, topspin, b-liner. Getting into some more specifics, the outstanding thing for me was possibly my serve and 2hbh - both were ripping it today with this racket in a way that is guaranteed to meet with my approval (incidentally it serves better for me than the APD) - and it's these 2 areas that are usually crucial to me when looking at frames. It's certainly pretty easy to maneuver and swing smoothly. I love the topspin. The head-size is very appealing to one who used to like the N95. And there is generally more control, feel and touch than, certainly most of the Babs, I reckon.

    On the more negative tip, I don't know, it's quite possibly because I've also been hitting with the TGK 238.5, but I'm not actually crazy about the feel and quality build (and I had the same opinion when I briefly checked the frame out a year ago, and - no surprise - I definitely think the p/stock YTPP beats the TF in this dept, and quite likely the PD+ does too for me)... tbh, I can certainly see myself wanting to do something to dampen and 'solid up' that grip, as well as putting some lead on the hoop - not so much to add to the power level (not needed) but to enhance the solidness and improve upon the feel. It's also a bit of a 'launcher' at times. My lobs weren't so hot. Volleying - so, so. And I've never personally been a huge lover of the pj.

    So then compadres (ahem), if you're looking for a lighter option (as indeed I have been for a long time now) and like to come out with all guns blazing, and play the big topspin b-line game, I would highly recommend this frame. If you're a bit more considered, defensive, all court, etc, and also if stiffer frames and full poly is not your thing (the frame screams 'full poly please!)... well, I think possibly other rackets might be preferable.

     
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    Ross, you're a funny dude. I love the verve.

    I do agree with the comments on the 320. When I demoed, it was quite enjoyable and rewarded an attacking style, but I, too, just couldn't get into the feel of the racquet. Just a touch too stiff. Was hard to really feel the ball no matter the string type. Still, a very solid stick.
     
  16. Power Player

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    Great review, and I agree it does not have a classic feel at all. It has a really crisp modern feel to it.

    What is great is how well you can play with it though. Glad you enjoyed it!
     
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    PP and JG,

    Thanks... yes, it came to me with absolute clarity and conviction yesterday... and Tecnifibre - if you're listening (like Babolat did with the old Babolat Alliance thread, and Prince did with the X-Men thread) - lose the Samurai and replace with an all guns blazing Western gunslinger!... that's what this frame is all about... imo.:wink:

    So, no doubt about it. I'm clicking with the TF (I was really clobbering the serve and having good success going DTL on my 2hbh) and it's a VERY strong contender for me... I'm not sure yet of course but it's a real rival to the APD, and not least because it feels related, yet distinctive.

    Re the TGK though, the feel and control, the solidness of frame, the heaviness of ball, the touch and responsiveness, build - the rarified quality of the pro-stock YTPP :cool: ... that's for sure as much a contender as the TF, if not more. Then I still have the PD+ to look at too, although not so sure I want to look further at the PSTGT.

    PP, what's your grip set up with the TF? Plus, to your knowledge, is it true that TFs have sillicone already in the grip? If so, I'd be surprised, I have to say.

    Best,

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    Ross! Ross!! Ross!!!
     
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    Haha :)

    We love rossy and his ways........
     
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    Ross is a rare talent here on the boards. He has an almost lyrical magic that he brings to his posts. And before you know it you can't stop reading his threads. Where someone like Fedace makes you second guess reading a thread, Ross draws you in like a moth to the flame.

    And I will say that when I make it across the pond to take in my first Wimby in person, Ross and I shall share a pint or two or seven.......

    Anyways Re the TGK...do you find it to have a firmer feel to it or does it play softer. I know the last numbers in TGK codes indicate different things like string pattern and layup so I'm just curious how it plays feel wise.
     
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    Review of the review:

    In trying to recapture the magic of the 'Babolat Alliance' thread... Ross K, exuded, once again, his poet licence in the 'X-men' thread.. which by all accounts was not embraced by board members... critics say, it lacked the 'spark' of the original...

    Ross K is back! in a thrilling thread which grasps the audience with analytical analogies and sintilating similes... 'The diary of a racquetholic' picks-up where 'The Babolat Alliance' left off.
     
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    What a shame it would be if Ross finally committed to ONE frame. Surely that TGK thingy is not sooooo grrrrrreaaattttt?
     
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    HAHAHA..the's great!

    Ross, I just use a Wilson Pro over the stock grip. I am pretty confident that there is silicone in both the 320 and the 325. The Tfights are actually the same sticks used by the TF pro team. They don't have a pro stock, so the guys out on the tour with Tfights are using that retail frame.
     
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    Ericcson on these boards would be the person who would know that.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that is not entirely accurate. I know that players like Dulko are probably just using customized versions of their stock frames but Baghdatis, Verdasco and Tipsarevic all had custom made frames with PJs. The frames were clearly labeled saying "Exclusive Production."

    There are several pics of Baghdatis's frames on the P1 website.
     
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    It has already been verified that Istomen is using the retail frame. You are right though that some of them use the older Major racquets which are the "exclusive". I guess my point is that some of their pros do indeed use the retail frame on tour (with lead usually at 3 and 9), and that was verified by some veteran posters in the Pro Racquets section.

    Bags plays the "tflash" and not the tfight, so I was not thinking of him. Of course he does use a PJ like you said. No doubt.
     
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    You're partially right :) Verdasco wasn't using a stock Vo2 but Tipsarevic did switch last year- I think he moved to the 325 though.

    Baghdatis is using the old Fischer mold if I recall correctly.
     
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    Indeed. I don't think that there is any maker out there that doesn't do Pro Stock frames. But I think it speaks very well of TF that they have Touring Pros that use their retail frames.

    I only hit with TFs once or twice because they are very rare to encounter around here but I was impressed with the quality of them. If they had made an 18x20 95" or less I would have given them a serious look.
     
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    ^^Actually, Babolat doesn't have pro room. The "pure storms" used by Ginerpri, Gonzo and Stosur are old PC's and even Rafa's and A rod's are just older production models with BNG (bold new graphics) :)
     
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    Interesting. I guess that Babolat follows the same trend as the others (letting players use older discontinued frames with PJs on them) but doesn't go through the hassle of coding them the way Head or Prince does.

    I personally think that Head's system is a little on the ridiculous side. There are so many numbers and different variations of frames. I don't know how that makes sense to them.

    However, I'm not going to lie because I'm pretty sure that if a few PT10s or TGK 237.1s fell into my hands that I would be a very happy camper.
     
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    Yep. the dirty little rumor is that the pst gt is very close to the Pure Control and some of the pros are using the retail pstgt on tour since it is so close. Pete Polansky is one of those players.
     
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    Well, the general feel is EXCEPTIONAL :) ... solid and stable, muted (in a nice way), very nice power and control combination, great accuracy... compared to the retail YTPP - (although do note I've thus far had limited time with both the retail and TGK and would want to check out different string sets ups for both and play around with lead etc for the retail) - I find the TGK a tad less stiff (here I disagree with others I think), and the string bed seems more consistent. There is absolutely no doubt that I play considerably better with the p/stock than the retail. The TGK just has divine feel, great feedback, I've said before how it's responsiveness from the b-line reminds me of the PT630... it just seems to me to be enhanced and improved in virtually all aspects compared to the retail.


    Ha, ha!... Actually the old Babolat Alliance thread was left in some senses virtually erased by the mods (please also see 'UK Racketaholics & Tennis Bums' ), it was certainly 'edited' by the powers that be... so let's hope the same fate does not befall 'Diary'...

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    I think you may be right on this point. Most people who find the tgk stiffer are usually limited to devotees of Head sticks. You cast a wide net (like myself) and hit with everything.

    I'm still toying with the idea of picking up a std length apdgt and toying around with it. My should is still a bit touchy and I'm wondering if that would help.....

    On a side note, I've got some pl2 in my apd's for the first time in about a year. I'll be interested in how it feels after the last 12 months with solinco and genesis products. I had a set laying about and thought I'd give it a shot. It's 16g and it was 2g heavier than my 1.25mm Tour bite.
     
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    Geez Ross....I see you snubbed my invite to take down some pints when I come over....I shall take my hard earned dollars turned into pounds elsewhere!! lol.
     
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    ry,

    Me?!... snub beers?!... :-o Get in touch, mate, when you're coming over.

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    :)


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    Dear Diary,

    Another session this morning and more of the same really...

    The Pro-stock YTPP, and to a slightly lesser extent, the retail YTPP, continues to blow me away with it's pinpoint precision and control, superb feel, great solidness, thumping ball and smooth swinging. Whilst the TF V02 320 continues to really impress me with it's zip and mega spin - and my serve is just plain evil at times with this - lots of pace and unpredictable fizzing spin.

    Is it all down to the so called 'negatives' I wonder?

    The YTPP is at times generally just a tiny tad demanding for me at times (notice it after a few sets.) I'm sometimes wondering about the slightly more closed pattern/not massive topspin combo. And my 2hbh isn't quite as effortless, consistent and heavy as it is with, say, a lot of Babs. The serve is wonderfully solid and precise, but can I find a bit more success on flat 1sts? The TF meanwhile doesn't compare at all in terms of quality build and feel (indeed I was more aware of it's stiffness today), it's control aspects, feedback, control, solidness, etc - none of these are in the same league as the TGK/ YTPP imo.

    Might be time to add a bit more lead to the PP @ 12, and put some on the TF @ 12, and change up the grip set up (I'm not sure to expect sillicone to be residing in the grip , as was touched on recently here... would be ironic if it already was there as I strongly felt the grip needed 'firming up' and dampening.

    How are others of the, er, racketaholic affliction, fairing out there?... 'fess up, lads!... share your stories.:)



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    ^^One thing I noticed on the ytpp is that it's very string sensitive. I could always tell a big difference between something like Mantis Power and Lux Adrenaline. I couldn't dictate the same with the lux in there like I could with Mantis so bear that in mind.

    Plus, conditions are still slow and heavy and the extra control may come in handy when summer rolls around.
     
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    Yes, i think you know I've got a load of Mantis Power at present, although I really got it because I liked it a lot in babs (especialy the PD+)... tbh, I wasn't so sure it would work out in the PP, but if you were to say otherwise... yes, I'd give it a look.

    Also, I'm slightly considering poly hybrids for the PP... what's your view on that PED? I've never been into hybrids so much, but I'm wondering if that might suit the PP.


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  39. Ross K

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    BTW...

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    On behalf of us Brits, let me say/shout "Come on, Andy!"... :)

    l just hope the weight of expectation and pressure brought on by decades of underperforming by British players doesn't somehow adversely effect Muzza.... and let's also hope he doesn't revert to full on pusher mode too.:roll:



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  40. JGads

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    The Djoker, I fear, is unstoppable at the moment. He's seeing the ball like a basketball and destroying it. Hope it's a good 4 or 5 setter.

    As for my own diary entry for the week,

    Got a batch of demos in the other day and have only had one brief hit thus far. The racquets and early findings:

    Yonex TI80 Lite - Good feel, but probably too, um, lite. Oops.

    Babolat AeroStorm Tour GT - Wanted to take this out for another spin after remembering a stellar demo a year ago. Superb off the ground and actually really enjoy the feel when smacking groundstrokes. (in contrast to the lighter AeroPros). Got going in set play and the serve let me down - the top of the hoop suddenly felt very hollow and flimsy and the serving punch didn't equal the groundstroke punch. Still one of my faves, but probably not my stick bc of the serving disappointment.

    PK Ki 5X - The wildcard entry. Loved the 7G, so wanted to see the updated version. Started hitting and the frame whistled -- yes, really WHISTLED - on every groundstroke. Far too annoying of a sound. Back into the box.

    Youtek Innegra Speed 16x19. Well, hello there. Swings so easily but hits a mean ball. Feel was a comfy crispness that actually reminded me a lot of how a Microgel Radical MP feels, but with a touch more beef in the frame. Limited hit, but a dynamite one and a total surprise. Will take it out for a couple more thorough spins.
     
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    Nole i agree is playing great but he would of so much have loved a slug fest with Ferrer. He's lost the last three to Murray and I believe it will be four. He has this mental thing with him. When they became pros together Nole rushed to the top and Murray struggled with him but since they have become the main threats to the top two he has struggled with Murray, maybe something to do with who is the main pretender, Murray to win in 4, non of this fannying about hot and cold like today....

    As for my racketaholicness Im troubled by just loving one frame but I am in the process of picking up a couple of tgk's and Ive pulled out my rad tt's for comparison, a frame I love. Cant see them ousting my bc20 tho.
     
  42. JGads

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    Didn't know Murray had a streak of wins against Djok. That makes it very interesting, indeed. In tennis, I usually think offense beats great defense, which is why Murray/Woz haven't won a major yet, but Murray did play very well after the first set last night. Would be happy for either to win. Gut still says Djok takes it, but we'll see.

    Vantage. Now there's a pandora's box I probably shouldn't open. Of all the frames on the market today, what does your Vantage feel the most like? The idea of 'making' a custom 95-inch, 27.25-length, in either a 18x20 or 16x19 pattern frame in the 11.6-9 oz. range gives me goose bumps.

    Note to self: stop it. Stop it right now...
     
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    haha my vantage is not custom its the new line out in a couple of weeks.
    what is it like similar to anything on the market today??? nothing.....made out of natural fibres its like a wooden racket with a modern outlook, a modern day max 200g, flexy (49ra) and soft but crisp, light enough for mods, powerful, major recoil, pro stock meets x factor, i take my hat off to vantage for producing the only racket that actually does feel different from anything out there today and is the genuine successor to the quality rackets of the 80s and 90s.
    i expect you will hear a lot more about them soon, when they are launched, im just a lucky bloke who got my hands on one.....
     
  44. JGads

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    Ah, I thought all Vantage frames were custom. Didn't realize they actually had a line out (or coming out) that's mass - or at least slightly - mass produced. Probably safe from them, though, as I'm in the US - it's a UK company, no?

    In other news, after playing at the 4.0 level for the last year and having some success, I just joined a new local 4.5 league last minute to see if I can hang with 4.5 players (I don't beat but hold my own against a 5.0 occasional hitting partner, so decided to make the jump up in a different, small league) and with the Innegra Speed 16x19 demo in hand, took my first 4.5 match 6-2, 6-1. Everything was clicking. Serve, groundstrokes, two-handed backhand was particularly groovy. Feel/flex of the stick was pretty sensational.

    Uh-oh, we have a contenda.
     
  45. Ross K

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    JG,

    Re the IG Speed, er, I'm not up to speed :roll: ... do post up more fuller impressions, what frame it might compare to, etc.


    Meags,

    Which exact TGK? Closed pattern MP not a million miles away from a PT630? And how did you find the RAD Tour TT played having been away from it for a while? Agree it's a great racket - like all these Heads of a certain period I totally love (PT630, PT260, i. Prestige MP, etc)... just such feel and responsiveness from the b-line, though, oddly, I preferred the mega-SW XL version I had. One of these days I'll plonk a PT630 and Rad Tour TT in my bag and take them for rare hit... though, knowing how I am, this is perhaps a very dangerous idea!:)

    BTW, I would be kind of curious to contrast the YTPP, PT630 and Rad Tour simply for spin. I would prefer a tad more on my YTPP, and whilst aware technique is a huge factor, strings etc plays a part, I haven't forgotten another board member's assertion that the PT630 hit bigger spin than the YTPP.

    Right... time to to get modding on one of my YTPPs and the TF.

    Laters chaps.




    R.
     
  46. JGads

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    Re: Speed 16x19, it feels like an open-patterned Radical MP but with a little more heft that makes it stand up to heavier shots a little better (you'd think that would be the Radical Pro, but I never felt as 'in control' of the ball with that one as I do with this one). The Speed also just has an incredible whippability that reminds me of the EX03 Tour playtest, but with better feel of the ball and also more pop on serve, both of those due to the added stiffness. The extra .2 of length has been feeling fantastic for both serving and the two-handed backhand, and that .2 hasn't of yet had any ill or clumsy effect on my forehand. The feel and maneuverability of this thing is just really, really nice. Now I'm trying to schedule a match against my old league nemesis to see how it stands up to him. Tonight, I felt in command of every single shot. It was lovely eve.

    I'll tell you this much, I'm pretty convinced at this point that I'm indeed going to retire my Prestige Mids. Just having too much fun lately with the added forgiveness and maneuverability of some of these lighter, bigger, easier-to-whip-around packages. Seems to be opening up my game a bit in a good way. For now, the Speed 16x19 has joined the Donnay Dark Red at the front of the pack.
     
  47. Ross K

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    JG,

    ^^^ Sounds rather nice, I must say. :cool:

    Doubt I'd prefer it to the YTPP/pro-stock YTPP - the control, that beautifully 'primed' balance, weighting, smooth way of swinging, feel is just out of this world (all especially as it applies to the p/stock)... basically, I feel like if I'm set properly and my technique is sound, this frame kind of just does the rest.:wink:


    R.
     
  48. JGads

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    Sounds like you've got a winner there, Ross. Seems like your heart is really with the Prestige Pro. Personally I didn't vibe with the Pro, much preferring the balance/flex/somethingsomething about both the MP and the Mid, at least in stock form. Stock Prestige Pro felt stiff in a way that I felt a lack of control compared to the other two. But that's me.

    The Speed has been such a surprise. Only reason it found its way into the box was because TW didn't have the new BLX Blade, which I was keen to try being a former K98 user, so I threw this in instead as an 'oh-what-the-hell.' Then, surprise surprise, I find that the frame that a sublime feel to it even with cheap Wilson Enduro poly string. It's that elusive soft-but-somehow-crisp response. And though it feels light in the hand and swinging it around, I have yet to feel a lack of stability or control, and I've been going up against some extremely hard hitters. Was blasting back some huge serves today in my return games - both the flat line drive returns as well as the spinny ones that dipped hard at the feet of the server.

    Will update with another postcard from the honeymoon as it progresses.
     
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    tgk238.1 closed pattern, same mold as the rad tt, prob same racket, although the rad was made in austria, and the tgk has caps. dont expect them to play very different from each other. Love the rad TT modded to suit, the new bc20 is closer to it as its flex is low (djok low!) and my TTs are 15yrs old so the flex is probably somewhere there too.
    Off for a match now, really looking forward to it, fresh tour bite, new wilson hybrid grip, feels gorgeous, hitting the ball real well at mo with this set up :)
    Im taking my rad TT for a knock afterwards to see how it feels.......
     
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    I've always found the PP to have a good deal of power so I never explored a hybrid there. I used to play with hybrids til I made the jump to full poly 3 years back. I just got hooked on the extra bit of "hook" that poly crosses gave my shots.

    Still it would be worth looking into.
     

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