Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.
FedK, so as suspected the Head Prestige Pro is not the big hitter in this newer version?
Yes, fill us in here Fed. So the new PP is still a bit lacking somehow IYO?
Surprised at that one. I assumed since they added on almost 10g in mass that it would have more oomph.
Fed, did you try the Juice?
Sounds a lot like the prestige mid..a total forehand machine..lasers hit with complete precision.
Meanwhile my backhand struggled.
Great string info here from the RSI mag, very interesting when dealing with relative stiffness of our polys and their relative tension loss. Some interesting results....http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/issues/201201/index.html page 35 or so....
Yeah, lead at 12 is exactly what I was thinking. It swung a bit fast on me TBH. I'll keep the synthetic, simply because I have fragile girly hands and leather gives me blisters, but I'm def. adding the missing weight back to the handle.
Overall it's a much easier stick to use that what I expected. That having been said, the 85 felt even easier and the SS feels bigger............. The mystery of the Bro Staff 85 continues.........
Ross, as you know, the N95 is muted, so I tend to go high on the crosses to crisp up the response and up the feel a bit. All the while staying low with the Poly to up the power and soften the stringbed.
Currently I'm liking a hybrid of ALU Rough/NXT @ 54/57. If you haven't tried a hybrid in the N, I think you might like it. You can up the tension on your choice of multi or synthetic in order to get more feel without sacrificing any comfort or power.
TB + Nvy would be awesome also.
Have you tried any mods with the 95??
Also, I'm really glad the new PPro also lacks cojones, when I saw the new specs I'll admit to having been tempted.
im going to try a hybrid in the 95..why the heck not.
cyberflash at 52, N Vy at 56 sounds about right.
Sorry guys I wrote a very detailed post earlier that seems to have been swallowed up by the interwebs.
In short: new pres pro awesome look feel and sound but same problem as last time.
I am becoming irrelevant to the modern game anyway, I prefer the ps85 to all 2012 offerings.
I think its too much of a project. It plays like a walmart racquet. We are talking a full pack of lead to make it right. Just get an ag300 for 50 bones if thats how you like it.
Juice pro looks good, havent tried.
Fed, how does the latest 90 compare to your playtest 90? Swing lighter or the same? And how would you compare the Bro Staff to the new 90?
Mods on the PS 95 aren't worth it. The juice is ultimately, sadly, never found.
Been sick with some type of food poisoning for the past week that's kept me off the courts. Hope to get out there sometime in the next couple days, but it might be very, very ugly. My 85 with fresh Iontec has been bringing me soup, as it desperately wants to go out and play already.
Retail 90 plays like the specs say. Very close to blx 90. My blackout review is irrelevant. Lol.
The 85 has less spin but I can play better with it. Dont know why.
Nice. It is a very magical little beast. And so handsome.
Mad Dog recently got a Taiwan version of the Staff and I hit with it briefly; found myself liking the BLX version more, was a touch easier to swing. So amazingly cool of Wilson/TW to rerelease this baby and actually have it play like a charm rather than flubbing it somehow.
Not to sound like an insane racaholic or anything but what do you guys make of the vcore line. Stan and tomic are using the 98? The 95 looks pretty solid on paper...yonex though....shudder
Stan lost to a dude ranked in the high 150's and failed to defend his Chenai title. Yonex fail!
Having said that, I quite liked the RDiS 100mp, it was just too big.
Just checked out the specs. The 95 does indeed look nice on paper, but we're still looking at a minimum of 15g's of lead. Could be another PPro syndrome racquet.
We need a leadaholic thread. I just got three packs in last week from TW. It should last me a few months.
I'll be the first to join if you create one. Lets put it this way, sometimes I'm afraid of picking up my baby because I was handling so much lead the night before.
No worries, I believe we're all insane racaholics.
Regarding the V95, nothing amazing for me. In fact it was one of the few frames I really didn't like at all. Absolute rock-solid, unyielding rigidity. Some may like that - and maybe even you, since you liked the Tecnifibre, which was also too rigid for me - but I need at least a hint of give to help me feel the ball a little for control, especially on second serve kickers. I've liked a lot of Yonex frames - a lot - but the V95 felt too much like a frying pan to me. I'm very interested in the Xi 98, though - love the specs.
Just received a couple samples of Big Hitter Black in the mail. Plan to string it up tonight in the 400 Tour. 7 sided string with very sharp edges, described the back of the package as in between BHBR and BHSR. I have high hopes for this one in the 400 Tour.
Murray, you swinging that 400T stock or with lead? Cool looking frame, but such a low SW.
Yes I have been hitting this stock and it is fine for most hitting ( even against higher level, bigger hitting players ) i think this is where the stiffer frame and increased bat speed makes a big difference. TBH the only time the balance is an issue is at net. Going to get out and hit tomorrow night and decided to add some lead to the hoop to compare. Stick now weighs 12.1 ounces with overgrip and dampener. Sadly I will not have a chance to string up the Big hitter black tonight
That's too bad. They look like nice racquets. Great craftsmanship and good qc. Too bad they are cursed. Maybe I will look on the bay for an rd7. Is that Rios book any good?
You know, I might have to follow your advice el. I'm not really a hybrid man, but I liked PP's recommendation re the Exo a month or 2 back of Bab Nvy, which I hybrided with Beast. I also have a dim memory going back a few years of playing with an N95 strung with, I think it was, TF Red Code and Wilson Sensation. Okay, neither particularly floats my boat either, but the zip and pace was absolutely unreal.
"PPro syndrome"?... ah, yes, I too did suffer from this complaint for quite a while.
It's a bit bi-polar but is a true GROAT contender for me. One of the most solid frames known to man, combined with fantastic power/control combo. Heftyish. Stringbed feel is like hitting with a cloud. Touch excellent. Odd handle and hoop shape. Stumpy somehow.
Ok just received the pros pro strings....the blackout in feel and stiffness is b5e. No wonder its a big seller at under 30 notes a reel. The lethal 5 which is supposedly like tb or alu rough doesn't quite have their unique feel but it does feel exactly like bhbr. I will deffo pick up the alu version and a few others, prob a reel of multi and synthetic for stringing purposes.
The other two power polys supposedly similar to sppp and mosquito bite will be interesting esp as they are bright orange and yellow! At the price I don't mind if they last two sessions, prob get consistency of performance than waiting for it to drop off the cliff.
It's more funny than anything else. Pretty amateurishly written, but it's mostly other pros or noted tennis personalities talking about the guy, and it generally goes along the lines of: He's a genius or he's a d#$c! Fun read.
Following on from Andy's new 'Travis Bickle' haircut , you guys ever think maybe it's time for a change of image? ...
I actually rocked this look back in the summer of 82.
I was on a 2 week backpacking trip to the arizona desert and thought the Hawk would be an appropriate look
AROD looks like he's been eating some corn and packed back on a bit of his weight. My wife laughed her @$$ off at his new look.
I'm still enjoying Hexonic but have found that it's not quite as precise as TB; still a good string and good at taking your opponent out deep and wide to their bh, get a short reply and then finish them off cross court.
Guess this is one way to utilize the receding hairline: use it for a Mohawk. As always, I can't believe this guy got Brooklyn.
In other news, finally returned to the court today. The Pro Staff with Iontec feels so, so good. Far better than TB. Serves came alive with this string as well. This stuff just complements the 85 so well. The feel of Iontec in the Ace isn't quite as sensational, but still very good. (and yes, still playing better with the Ace in point play; wish I had the game to rock the 85 in sets but I just don't)
Well, he might be looking a bit more psycho, but I'm sure he'll still be wafting over that bh slice and underpowered 2hbh same as normal. Saying that (and OMG, I know all about a malfunctioning slice and an underoomphing 2hbh :roll: ), TBH I actually personally think he looks great.
Interesting re the Hexonic. My sets arrived yesterday and I'm just debating which frame eaxctly to put it in and which it would suit the best - APD/PD+/N95/BLX 95.
Okay, so from what you say, Iontec in the N95 or BLX 95 may really be a nice match up. My only issue is I think I have a problem with my order - which is annoying as I really want to check this out ASAP.:evil:
Gads, good to hear you've recovered from the round of stomach flu or food poisoning! yeah, Iontec in the Bro Staff is just magical.
live AO qualifying.....
I think it would be. I wasn't able to chime in earlier when you guys were having that string convo, but I'm a total believer in the crisp string/soft frame, soft string/crisp frame theory. Tour Bite is positively GOLDEN in any soft frame, but can feel kind of harsh (blx 95) or even somewhat dead (pro staff 85) in the stiffer ones. Sometimes, as with the blx 95, the harsher feel doesn't necessarily equate to any big difference in playability - the blx 6.1 95 still plays beastly with the tour bite, it just doesn't feel so plush as I'd like it. However, after tonight, I can tell you that Tour Bite just isn't made for the Pro Staff. But Iontec is. ...
Actually, not since Tour Bite and the BC20, the first perfect stick-to-string match made in heaven, have I found such a delightful chemistry as the Pro Staff and this Iontec. The combo is just amazing. Best feel ever. However, this is also the Pro Staff we're talking about; i'm sure many strings will feel heavenly. The Iontec also feels very good in my Black Ace but not QUITE as yummy (I'm still open to more string experimenting with my second Ace to see if I can find a better, slightly more crisp fit - Silverstring may be my next experiment). Have yet to throw the Iontec into the BLX 95 but I do suspect that at the right tension, the softer Iontec could be amazing in the 95. I guess PP has already done this, and his results have been somewhat mixed. Will be interesting to see if it's any different when he adjusts tension.
So yeah, I'm still a giant Tour Bite fan - to me I'm still quite addicted to the insane ball-grab it gives me on my spinny stroke, and the funk it puts on the ball (more so than any other string), but as we've all come to find it does have its quirks and can be more temperamental. The Iontec I'm liking more and more these days because of its consistency and its longer shelf life, but I do also think that for me, the 'ceiling' of Tour Bite is higher in terms of what it can do in the right frame and at its peak -- after it's broken in, and before it's fallen off the TB Cliff. As for the Iontec, I sometimes wish it were crisper for some frames (a TOUCH crisper of a feel would be golden in my Ace, or in the BC20 where I like the TB much more) but for stiffer, crisper frames like the BLX 95 or some others like, say, an APD or a Head IG Speed (another crisper frame that I loved with softer string but then hated with my beloved Tour Bite - as the proverbial crisp string/crisp racquet combo was just too much), the Iontec could be gold.
I definitely think I want to try the Iontec in my BLX 95.
I got an email from Solinco. They said that they recommended that you restring every week if you use tourbite.
Just an FYI..pretty much what I figured, but that is something to take note of.
As for iontec in the BLX..it feels very nice, I just lose control more often with it at this tension..I need to do 54#s I think.
The BLx is so powerful that you can sometimes fly shots if you are not dialed in. I still think the silver string is a great matchup in the stick.
Question for you new blx95 users, I've had mine since it came out, found it super easy to swing, big serves, and all that. Only problem I found is when hitting back a hard struck groundstroke in the upper third region of the string bed, there's this super weird jarring/vibration, I think its because the string bed really opens up but basically my question is, do you guys run a dampener on it? I never use dampeners.
I run a sampras dampener on every stick. So I have never noticed any vibrations at all. One of the cool things about this racquet is the solidity of it.
PP, I usually restring for matches and Ive never had a problem with TB. This has also helped in that my strings are not in long enough usually for that major drop off. However Gads will tell ye that just before the drop off point there is a moment of sheer bliss, to which no other string has ever come close. My moment came today, my friend has a stringmeter and my tension was 41lbs (feels tighter in the melbourne). I strung it at 49lbs due to the stringbed tightness, thats an 8lb tension loss in several hrs of play. Anyways it was sheer bliss today, big sweetspot, loads of spin and power, yet the control was still there. Playing tonight then i will cut them out.
This moment doesnt happen if you just string them at the lower tension, its like they wear in a little then when you think theyve gone, BANG theyre back on it with balls!
Oh trust me, I had that bliss after 2 hours of hitting with TB and playing a match the next day. It was simply perfect.
It is torture that strings like this die so fast. I wish we could use them until they break.
My vote would be one of the Bab's. I know for a fact that it's really nice in both of those. I'd say the apd since you seem to like that a bit better.
I will put it in my Wilson as well at some point soon. I am very interested in how it plays in it. The feel is very nice.
PED, I may have missed it, but how much time do you get out of the Hex before death?
When I had the bc20 I had to string it up at 58lbs to get the best performance out of it. With the Melly stringing tight I can go much lower with the same effect. It also has less relative tension loss strung lower than when its strung higher, there's more of an obvious drop off.
TB and Alu Power are the only strings I have tried that are a level above the rest.
yes I agree with that. Both are so so good.
Mine broke around 8 hours and played pretty well up until the end.
Just started hitting the exo3 tour 18x20...very impressive.
Surprisingly my serve has been awesome with it as well as a huge improvement in my backhand and defensive shots. The flexibility feels great and I'm getting a lot of action, and I already hit a very spinny ball.
Very impressed so far. Consistency is up and I'm keeping my shots in but deeper in the court.
I like it much more than the 16x19. To me, spin is even more and I am more consistent.
Anyone have any love for this frame?
Yeah, it's the last frame I used before returning to my N6.1's after a 4 year hiatus.
I agree with what you said, I preferred the 18x20 over the 16x19, and I actually bought mine from our own Klem. He made sure to bless it with some of Pete's hometown mojo
They all loved that one about 2 months back. Check back a few pages and you'll see the feedback
Wow, is this right? 8 lbs drop off from 49lbs to 41lbs in just several hours? :shock: OMG I dread to think what low tensions many of my racks have ended up at as I have a lamentable tendency to leave polys in a bit too long.
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