Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Power Player

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    Awesome..it is a great string if you want to avoid poly and still get some real nice spin and durability.
     
  2. PED

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    ^^PP, you are pretty much on fire with your recommendations lately. I used your "keep your hands close to the body on the 2hbh" tip today. Wow, that's a game changer. I've really struggled on the 2hbh for the last six months or so and just that one little adjustment and I was rippin' it.

    Thanks man
     
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    Thanks and I am glad it worked. The 2hbh is always a tough stroke to hit consistently with power and accuracy day after day for me, so little tips really help.

    The offhand thing with the forehand is gold for me and has made me a much smoother player, but I still can fall in and out of the groove throughout 2 hours and end up turning the racquet over with my wrist too much for an exaggerated windshield wiper stroke that is way too wristy, or not pull my offhand across with the proper timing..so that can be annoying. sometimes I wonder if I should continue to add more weight to 12 o clock. I add 2 grams every few weeks. I wonder if that even balance would help keep my wrist under control.

    The good news is I have broken down the strokes into 3 bullet points for me that really help me focus and they both begin with the chin to shoulder thought.

    When it is all clicking, I am hitting the ball so clean that it just takes tennis to another level for me.
     
  4. bad_call

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    ^ rip control was the go to mains string before trying B5E...good non poly choice.
     
  5. corners

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    It's the way the shape of the head and swingpath mesh: If you think of the hoop as a window, the top edge of the window sill approaches the ball from below and then passes over it at about 10:30 (for a righty). The ball then hits the strings, slides and inch or two and then bites (stops). If it were to slide too far, because the swing was a bit ahead of the ball and impact occured below the center of the strings, it would clip the "bottom" edge of the frame at about 4:30. Because the iso headshape is narrower than round heads at 3&9, but wider above and below 3&9, the distance from 10:30 to 4:30 is longer - the effective "spin window" is larger for modern topspin swingpaths. So the player can swing faster and steeper with less chance of clipping the frame, either on the top window sill or the bottom.

    Prince heads also have big spin windows, even though they are are widest at 3&9, because the entire hoop is squashed from top to bottom in comparison to other frames, making them wider than usual. They are also especially wide in the top of the hoop, making spin serves very easy to hit in my experience. The new Rebels are very differently shaped, though.

    Dunlops are the narrowest frames I've seen and have very small spin windows for a given headsize.
     
  6. Fed Kennedy

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    Thanks corners. Excellent post as usual. I used to have a head extreme which was supposed to have a huge window, but I liked hitting flat with it. My 95d is no wider than a k90, but seems very grippy.
     
  7. Ross K

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    Nice info/post corners and I do agree with your comments re Prince racs and interesting re Dunlops.
     
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    ^^^ Great explanation - thanks!
     
  9. tistrapukcipeht

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    Nothing less I could expect!!

    You didn't see a thread I created, but here is my question:

    What is the co-relation between a racquet with longer handle and a racquet with shorter handle to playability?

    R1- has a longer/wider head, smaller throat and smaller handle (I guess EZONE Xi)

    R2- has a longer handle, smaller head longitudinally with a little , longer throat.

    I'm sure it does effect the gravity center and how it plays, but I can't figure out if there is any advantage for one or the other.

    Can you help me with this?

    Thanks
     
  10. Pneumated1

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    Is this just an institution for those with compulsive buying habits, or can one be committed for a case of crippling indecisiveness? Thinking of stepping up to a "big boy" stick, considering that I'm tall and wiry, with a long hard swing in need of a skosh more precision and control than I'm getting with my customized BB Londons. Great frames but I don't really throttle back enough, as I tend to drive through the ball on both sides.

    I had my choices narrowed down to the X-325 and IG Prestige MP, but then they go and release this new Bio. Max 200, essentially a weighted up HM, Mfil, Bio. 300. It's more than I can deal with, considering that I hit the 300G + 1oz. for almost five years. Now I find myself looking at weighting up a Bio. 300, a weighted X-295, wondering if I can snag an older, Microgel Prestige online, perhaps the Youtek with the slightest fine-tuning . . . do I go MP or Pro? And the most insane thing of all is that the only frame that I can't make myself like, even coming from the BB London spec'd out to almost identically . . . is the Melbourne. Go figure!

    I played as close to the proverbial "Golden Set" as you can play with an X-325 a few weeks ago. I literally missed two balls and lost like five points. However, my best and biggest hitting partner says that my ball quality with the IG Prestige MP is off the charts. He gives me the nod that way. But my love for the Dunlop 300's has me waiting, watching, holding my breath for any hint of confirmation on this new Bio. Max 200. Does it end? I'm really not a racquetaholic in the strictest terms because I only own two frames, and they match. I think I'm more specifically neurotic over this decision. Maybe this is the wrong thread.

    I'm cracking up! And that's not to imply that I find any of this funny.
     
  11. PED

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    Welcome to your new home.
     
  12. JGads

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    For what it's worth, I got blinded by the beauty of the Bio 200 Max at Indian Wells, bought it, then realized it really - to me - wasn't anything very special, and sold it quickly while it was still exclusive so I could basically get back what I put into it. My issue with the Bio was balls tended to float up off the racquet face a bit too much and just sit there on the other side of the court, nice and high and watermelon-like. Slices especially floated. By contrast, the Prestige MP drove the ball far better for me. I still have an IG I'm thinking of selling, because I've had my own issues (documented in this thread) with it and am just kind of tired of tinkering with it, but it is a very nice frame that's far better than previous versions. For me it rips the ball more easily than the BioMax, which I think is a sweet looking stick that ultimately falls short of its goaty paintjob (and Mac signature).
     
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    Welcome pnuemated wellllcome...muhahaha.

    This whole forum is a racaholic playground, this thread simply features some of the more depraved individuals.
     
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    I demo'd the X325 and thought it was a very nice frame except that the ball feel wasn't quite what I'd expect from a Volkl. Otherwise it would have been nearly perfect. Precision/maneuverability/stability were all there. In this sense the IG Prestige pro is similar but swings heavier. I have an IG Pro and had high hopes for it, but the ball feel isn't quite right for me. Need to spend more time with it..

    I have a YT Prestige MP and thought the new IG version plays softer, has a bit more power/stability, and a better ball feel. It also swings lighter than the Pro. I'm not a 18x20 person, otherwise I would have switched. If you drive through the ball more often, I think the IG MP might be a better fit for you.

    I'm also hitting with a Donnay Pro One these days. Its power/plowthrough/spin is simply addicting and has plenty control. I put on a BB leather, with overgrip and dampener, it weighs in at 11.9 oz and has an estimated sw of 325. It swings very smoothly through the contact zone. And then there's the new Bio 200G Max.. I'm not sure what my next 'main stick' is - nothing is better than the London overall! Choice is usually good, but sometimes I actually wish there are less of them..
     
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    This is vicious.. this is drugs!
     
  16. Pneumated1

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    Hopefully just passing through, but it's good to know where to find an "encouraging" word.
     
  17. Pneumated1

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    Thanks for the warning. It's exactly what I needed to hear. Now that I think of it, back when I switched from my 300G's to a customized KBlade, several of my opponents commented on how they could no longer camp out under my ball like they used to. The quality was much better with the Blade, and to be honest, the ball quality of my modded Londons is probably better, so it's a win-win for me here. I hit with a fair amount of spin, but it's not loopy spin, more driving and through the court, if that makes sense. And floating bh slices are a deal breaker for me. Sounds like my customized Londons are much more suitable for me until I can decide between the X-325 and Prestige, but somehow I don't feel rushed now. It was the Dunlop variable that drove me temporarily insane.

    I've almost pulled the trigger on the Prestige MP going back to the Flexpoint. My favorites have been the Microgel and this new IG. You give the edge to the IG over the Microgel?

    From the London threads to the institution:) I'm in the minority that likes Volkl's move in the "feel" dept. with the Organix line. I like the non-arm-threatening crispness of the X-325 a lot. The way my ball bit the court with that frame was pretty remarkable, along with the precision. The Prestige Pro's are great frames. I demoed both, but the slightly higher than mid-stiffness gives me pause. The Youtek was flat harsh on one cold demo day a few days after Christmas. I had looked at the Pro One favorably for awhile, but like you say, you have to cut the information-gathering cord at some point . . . I guess:) I've gravitated to Volkl/BB player's frames and the Prestiges, so I stay plenty busy with these options alone. You're right, though, the London is hard to beat overall. I'm still hitting it!

    Let me clue you in on how neurotic this has become for me: I ordered an IG Prestige MP strung with Rip Control 17 and never took it out of the package; sent it back the next day. Then I picked up a brand new X-325, never hit, at a local Play it Again Sports for $99. Guess what . . . took it back. It's as if my Londons glare at me when I bring a new toy home. I tell my wife that I'm a careful decision maker. She says I'm nuts! It'll work out.
     
  18. Chace

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    Hey PP, do the Lavers run true to size? Thanks in advance.
     
  19. Power Player

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    Yes they do for me..tennis shoe sizing at least. Wear whatever size you prefer on the court..for me I go a little smaller.
     
  20. Shangri La

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    Yeah, the London threads were fun.. Wish TM was around, so we can check out what his latest setup is :)

    Let your wife know that you always make good decisions. And the best one you made in your life is... her! :)
     
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    I remember really liking the Microgel MP demo long ago but it's been so long, I honestly don't remember how it compared head to head (intended) with the IG. Getting so close to heaven with the current IG Prestige, I'd love to get my hands on a Microgel MP again one of these days just to see. I do know that the Microgel Mid is an amazing frame, and I totally buy into Microgel feel - I think it was a tech that gave some super nice feel to all Head sticks; unfortunately they also had those unfortunate paintjobs.

    I know what you mean about liking the Organix 325. I liked it, too. Had no real weakness for me, but also nothing outstanding that made me want to grab it.
     
  22. Meaghan

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    No Tour Bite aaaaah......

    You all know Ive been testing a few poly hybrids of late. Its a slow process mainly due to the lifespan this set up seems to give to your strings.

    Its not just any poly hybrid, there are a few rules Ive set myself...
    1, the main string is thicker than the cross.
    2, they are strung at the same tension.
    3, the cross string has to be smooth.

    These are just some conditions Ive set myself, not out of some scientific analysis (well some maybe and a little common sense??), but to give me an equal playing field.

    I do tend to like the geared main, TB and Tourna7 seem to be the leaders here but I have concentrated on the crosses. I originally loved Iontec, still do especially with TB but I prefer the livelier TiMO, gives me a little more feedback and has a touch more 'something'. Its difficult as TB/Iontec is so so solid.
    Well Ive ran out of TB which has caused me some problems in deciding what to do. I have some stiffer polys but I decided to go with Cyclone mains and after several cuppas I went with the thinner Hyperion cross @ 54lbs. Feels good in the garden, will let you know how it plays over the weekend.
     
  23. Pneumated1

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    I remember loving what I perceived to be the "dwell time" of the Microgels. If memory serves (haven't hit a Microgel in a few years), the IG seems to exude a similar muted "feel"; however, it's as you say: the IG puts some noticeable rip on the ball that I don't remember with the former. And I personally like it's weight distribution more central, with a lighter but stable hoop. I feel like with good commitment you can drive the ball without fear of overhitting, but because of the low swingweight and weight distribution, you can also grind the ball towards the sidelines when attacking. I never would have thought that they could make a 310 sw frame so stable, but I don't find myself wanting to change much about it. And a Prestige is a Prestige at net. Can you miss a volley with one?:) I even find the grip shape, which some find to be hideous, to be much more "full" and doable than Volkl or BB, although still inferior to Dunlop's, imo.

    As you can probably gather, I'm leaning towards the Prestige in my heart of hearts. I'm thinking a quality multi at medium-low tension or soft copoly mains at very low tension with Bi-Phase, NRG2, etc. would work as well. Did you put a Head leather on your MP? I've thought of that with maybe 2 grams of lead at 2:30/9:30, but I don't want to mess with a good thing. Guess I need to buy the frame before I get too carried away:)
     
  24. PED

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    That's what they all say ;)

    Actually, most everyone has settled down in the last six weeks or so.
     
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    You know a racquet that was kind of impressive in the 10 minutes I spent with it was the IG Speed..think it was 16x19..it's weird because most people are not into it, but was extremely solid feeling. I tried one at the Ericsson.
     
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    Same here. Not a good feeling re the TB. :shock: I've also been hybriding (with Hexaspin), so I, too, am finding set ups last forever. Whatever, I need to get those TB supplies restocked pronto!:)

    FWIW, and with the proviso that I think there's always the somewhat underrated issue of strings being frame-dependent, I wasn't a huge fan of Cyclone in the APD. Too mushy, springy and overpowered. Hyperion I prefer infinitely. Liked it best of all in the TF 315 Speedflex. Surprisingly nice in the PD+ too.
     
  27. PED

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    This surprises me as I usually like the same sticks you do. I didn't hate the Speed but it felt kind of neither/nor to me. Not powerful enough like a Bab to just rip it but not stout enough like a Prestige to deal out the pain.

    It's probably me, I didn't like the previous version either.
     
  28. Power Player

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    I believe I tried the elite. It just felt really solid and volleyed like a beast. Kind of a surprise.

    Granted I spent 10 minutes with it, so it may have just been the different feel that was cool.

    I just can't remember for sure which stick it was, but I remember they had a prestige midplus as well. They were all the older youtek versions, so I was wrong to call it the IG.
     
  29. Meaghan

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    My thoughts were it would feel the same but its a surprisingly crisp set up in the BB, very similar to Tourna7/TiMO. I went up a couple of pounds, it does feel very powerful, maybe a serving set up, we'll see. I am amazed how different a set up can feel when you get on court compared to knocking up against the wall. Its crisp tho with good feedback so Im happy it will do the job.

    Have I found a set up that can beat a full bed of PP Hexaspin Twist for all round play and cost, the answer tbh is no, at 30 squid a reel its difficult to make an argument. When I get some money in the tennis account Im getting a reel. It wont be my first choice as TB/Timo is too solid but a great backup when the other set up is getting on a bit.
     
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    I still look over my shoulder and hope that he's not perusing the boards when I type the forbidden word: SETUP. You can sense the impending chastisement. But yeah, the London wars were fun: men being men, I guess. And no doubt about the wife, great decision, and quite a woman!

    I guess denial is the last wall to crumble. After driving myself nearly batty for weeks over the decision, I've re-ordered the IG Prestige MP. I think it's the best move. But I might add that I don't see myself parting ways with my Londons without psychological/emotional unrest. The London is such a unique frame. . . maybe I do belong here!

    And I might add that, thanks to my observance of this thread of late, at a distance, I bought some Rip Control 16 to go in my Londons at the higher end of the tension range, maybe 58-60lbs. A feel stick like the London deserves a multi, imo, and if I can muster a little more control and bite out of the stringbed, I can't lose.
     
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    P1,
    I too spiraled into the schizophrenic world of indecision and second guessing when 3/4 PresMids I had been swinging for 4 years cracked.

    I demo'd about 30 different frames.. which led to the purchasing of 10 different racquets, over the past 8 months!!, to try different strings/set-ups. I sold/traded many of those frames.

    I realized I needed something more forgiving because court time was getting to be a privilege and I wasn't playing as much as I used to. But I could not let go of the place in my brain that beckoned for the feel of my mids. Nothing felt 'right'. I had to compromise.

    Some people are addicted to drugs/sex/alcohol..... some golf... hunting/guns.... others cars. We should feel lucky that our addiction isn't as detrimental as some others'. :smile:

    Always leave a slot in your bag for the Londons. And enjoy the new frame as a separate piece, without too much comparison to the 'ol ones.

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  32. PED

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    Not yet, still waiting to see his remaining scholarship offers.
    He's heading off to your old stomping ground soon for his senior trip: Greece :)
    At this point, I don't feel like he can make a wrong choice.

    re your signature, my buddy saw Martina Hingis up close in Charleston the other weekend: said she was smokin' hot.
     
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    ^Good luck. If there is anything you need to know about the country, any questions he might have, let me know.

    Saw Hingis play world-team tennis awhile back. Agree wholeheartedly with your friend. Hingis is a dream up close. I felt like Joe Namath did with Suzie Kolber on Monday Night Football.... 'come here, I just want to kiss 'ya... just one kiss'.... I had always liked her.... but up close... she is a goddess! Paid more attention to Hingis than Kournikova.
     
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    My girls.....
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    Mama mia!!!! What else could you ask for.... more Hingis!![​IMG]
     
  36. corners

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    Hey, I'm not sure I understand your question. Would you mind clarifying, maybe with more examples of particular frames that fall into your R1 and R2 categories? And could you start a new thread so we don't disturb these nervy 'holics?
     
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    Pretty great trick, Head.
     
  38. JGads

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    Great description above of the IG MP. Spot on. Only thing that I've ultimately found personally was that the weightier throat, lighter hoop combo - while epic on groundies - causes two issues: I struggle to volley consistently with the stick, personally, wanting a touch more block-back beef, and that lighter hoop seems to not crack serves quite as effortlessly as previous Prestiges -- don't get me wrong, the thing can bomb the serve, but it takes just a touch more effort to really get the blasters that came so effortlessly with previous versions.

    As for mods, no leather grip for me as I'm usually not a fan of leather. Best setup so far is about 7 grams of lead beneath the handle, about 7 inches up. Unfortunately every time I've tried to stabilize the hoop for volleys with lead, the frame has then teetered over to 'too sluggish' feeling, which I think is the unfortunate result of having an 11.9 starting weight, as there's not a ton of room for weight.

    You Tour Biters really need to try TB/NVy. It's splendid. Crisp, 'feely', lengthens the life of TB and also is good from the get go, whereas full TB occasionally feels off for a couple hours before breaking in and going beast mode.
     
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    Just got in my IG Rad Pro, it's spot on spec-330g strung but what surprised me is the grip.

    I've owned a lot of Head sticks over the years and love the grip shape but this feels much rounder and larger than what I'm used to.

    There is still a rectangular "feel" to it but it feels closer to a 3/8. It's def larger than a Bab 1/4 and we know they run large.

    Not complaining as it should promote a less extreme grip but still surprised.
     
  40. Pneumated1

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    I think that's why I've had a hard time justifying the purchase: because I will be hanging onto the Londons, instead of creating the financial "space" for the Prestige:) I do think that I need an ever-so-slightly, more precise, control-oriented, frame that lets me swing out fearlessly to play my game, but just how much I'll miss the extra fraction of forgiveness and pop from the London can only be determined in time. I do know that I play better tennis with an 18x20 pattern, but the consolation is that I suspect I can play well with both. We'll see; thanks!

    I was hoping more for a treat, now that one's ordered.

    I think that I'll probably try to make the stock grip work for awhile, or maybe try the Gamma Hi-Tech, before going to leather. As you say, it's already 11.9, and the extra 5-7 grams already take me higher than I want to go.

    The London's hoop is the most mod-sensitive frame I've ever tried to customize. I learned a trick that might help us both on the Prestige. You can take your 1/4" lead, cut it in half to 1/8" and double the length to cover more space for better but lighter distribution. Therefore, instead of 2" of 1/4" lead at 2/10, isolated, you could use 4" of 1/8" lead spread out between 3/9 to 1/11. You feel it less, as if it's more integral to the frame's layup. Plus you see it less and can hug the grommets easily. I'll probably try 2 grams in this way.
     
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    Ok it is now official and a signature switch is in order. Almost 4 weeks with this stick and have no interest in putting it down. I just love how much easier this makes my game, especially on serve. Loads more easy points and some aces that I don't usually get .I know the pure drive is usually mentioned as the best serving Babolat but for me I don't think it gets much better than this.

    I know I am feeling pretty good about this stick and proof comes from the fact that I had ordered a new IG Radical Pro (prior to hitting with the APD) and it still sits in the box unstrung. I don't even feel tempted to try it either. So anyone interested in a brand new IG Radical Pro at a good price, hit me up on my email .

    It doesn't hurt that I had the best compliment thus far from some older ladies playing beside us. They mentioned that they thought I had been watching too much Raonic and that they think his game had been rubbing off on me :) Loving this Cortexen beauty!!!!
     
  42. JGads

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    What is happening...

    Congrats Murray. You should snag one of those upcoming french open aeros. Those things are sweet looking.

    Speaking of, just unboxed an rdis 100 in easy 9.5/10 condition. It's so pretty.
     
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    Hey Meags,

    Have you ever tried out Tornado? Just wondering if it is similar to this Hexaspin Twist you and Ross have been posting about? Also have you tried out the non-twisted version? Thinking of ordering a couple set to try out. I really like Tornado in the APD.
     
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    Ive been wondering about this frame. Not gonna lie, the paintjob is fantastic and makes me want to try it more. Do update us when you get the chance.
     
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    Look forward to your review. I picked up a YT rad pro on the bay cheap so interested to hear your thoughts on this new one. I have used the MG rad pro before, so will see how the YT fairs when it comes in.
     
  46. Ross K

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    Murray,

    Congrats on your sig switch and settling on the APD. All I can say is that for me and considering my racketaholic past... well...

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    I WALK THE LINE.
     
  47. Ross K

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    REALLY note-worthy this as, love it or hate it (and I've felt both extremes over the years), the Head grip shape is just so distinctive and can be such a big factor in one's appreciation (or otherwise) of Head frames.
     
  48. Ross K

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    Well, Muzza, I don't think I've played it in an APD, but I found Tornado stiffer and generally just not so much my cup of tea as Hexaspin Twist. Haven't tried the non-twisted version. Of course it's all so personal and frame-dependent, and I'd still opt for TB, but Hexaspin Twist has impressed me and suited my personal requirements more than any other poly I've tried this year.
     
  49. Ross K

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    Good points that I agree with having checked out this set up before Easter. Still seem to prefer the full poly job though TBH.
     
  50. Meaghan

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    I haven't tried tornado, I do have hexaspin but I dont like its colour do haven't used it yet :)

    Good luck with the apd, I can understand the extra it gives you on serve.....it makes the game so much easier to get free points.
     

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