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  1. 808

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    If I, hypothetically, were to buy one I'd hope so too. Need to check this against my old Vantage 90's (or a Prestige Mid), but it sure looks like there's a good bit more usable area in this small YY head. As I said, it's shorter than my PD, but not really that much more narrow. Curious shape, really.
     
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    Good news, the Nvy might be a nice compliment to a very soft feeling poly.
     
  3. Meaghan

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    Yonex mids have always been easy to use imo, with the exception of the rdis100 which felt like it had a block of granite in the throat but the rest whether 89/90 or 92/93 have always played bigger. The headshape does give an enlarged sweetspot, the short pro staff like throat does make these frames unbelievably stable and relatively stiffer in feel. Like pro staffs imo these sticks excel with 1hbh and serving bombs and benefit from the difficulties Ive had with pro staffs and my forehand and the problems with my 1hbh and the Prestige mids Ive used.

    Its a great time for Yonex, I thought they had lost their way with the last couple of players sticks, theyve found a balance between feel and raw power thats rather addictive.

    Im looking forward to getting the 89 and if it plays anything like its 95 cuz then Im in for a good time :)
     
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    I agree, it's a great time for Yonex. Looking forward to reading your thoughts about the 89, Meaghan. ;)

    Quick question – has anyone here tried Hyperion as a cross with VS? I like Hyperion as a full bed, but so far have not really played any hybrids besides Champions Choice. Thanks.
     
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    808, excellent reports my friend. Can't wait to give the Q a swing, just hoping TW does in fact get it soon. Someone in another thread likened it to an old Pro Staff 95 in feel but with more stability. I would love that. I forget: which black drive do you wield? Standard or Roddick? And re: serve, you get a lot more punch off of the Bab, probably?

    Klem, triumphant day! Man that must have felt great. And now, as you strengthen, you've got how many brand new frames to play with?? Get to work.
     
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    Yes it's the all yellow one, I think they are after something around the £60 mark for it, didn't look too closely tbh, i would only of bought it!
     
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    I have used vs hyperion in the kps 88. Its an amazing setup.
     
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    Agree the vc95 cosmetic is superior with the white throat and black red groms but I will await pro artist Meaghans appraisal...

    I dont know why I fuss with tweeners the 100s and pro open are good sticks but nothing beats the 95d...
     
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    Yeah, I read that comment about the old PS 95. Never played one though, and I'm just not a Wilson man.

    I use the extended length Pure Drive + with a bit of lead under the bumper and I'm sure the extra length helps with serves. Then again I'm not exactly the biggest server and rely mainly on spin and placement, but yes, the PD+ certainly provides some extra punch over a more traditional players racquet like the QT.

    I did try the 2009 PDR in both regular and extended length versions but didn't particularly care for either – went back to my standard (leaded up) PD's then. As for the 2012 iteration, I went straight for the PD+ and did not try the 'dick.


    Alright. I have some VS Team and Hyperion in 1.18 and 1.24 gauge. Will probably go for the 1.18 first.
     
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    Good call. The black on pearlescent white Yonex type on the side of the throat is money, though, IMO.
     
  11. Fed Kennedy

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    808, for what its worth i found vs hyperion to be superior to vs tornado and vs sppp and vs alu rough....next week I will deliver my thoughts on vs co focus which many have said to be goatish...
     
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    Thanks, Fed. I have a couple of different polys here – PHT, Black Code, Alu Power and Beast XP – but Hyperion seems to be the most sensible option (cost etc.). Out of those I also like it best in a full bed, besides PHT.
     
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    Ross,

    Love Tourbite but find it nothing like Hexaspin. Strung up the APD's with full job of Twisted Razor and the other with Discho Black Ion Rough (55lbs) Light hitting against the wall I can tell the Discho is noticablely softer. Will give both sticks a go with the new set up and report back later this week.
     
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    Fed,

    Do you usually hybrid or play the Hyerion in a full bed?
     
  15. Ross K

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    RHs,

    Re Hyperion, I quite liked it a lot in some frames; but LOVED it in the TF SF 315.


    Murray,

    Will be interesting to see how you like those stringjobs ^^^. FWIW, I'm maybe the only RH around here who was very disappointed with Discho Iontec.
     
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    I liked the regular version of Iontec in the stiffer racquets (especially in the 400 tour. ) not so much in the softer sticks like the exo and the Melly. This is the first time I have tried the rough version. I am not sure if it same string as iontec as it is called black ion rough ( not iontec rough) . I have an enquiry in to Ray to see if it is indeed the same stuff. Looks very similar to Polyfibre Black Venom
     
  17. Fed Kennedy

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    Fullbed of hyp 17 is my daily bread
     
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    Good stuff, thanks (and for your input as well, PP).
     
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    For all the rh's living across the pond......

    I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MORE EXCITING ENDING IN THE PREMIER!!!!!

    Congrats to Man C..... 2 goals in injury time to pull in front of United. Amazing. Simply amazing.
     
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    Yes, just an incredible finale. A stunning end and a real spectacle that - IMO - confirms the Prem. League as the most exciting in the world.
     
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    Head and shoulders above any other league, the parody alone speaks volumes of the better competition present in the premier.

    If you want to watch selfish play and goals rocketed from well outside the box, series A is your ticket.

    A snore fest with little offense and even more predictable standings, ligue1 is it.

    If you just plain want a good laugh and want to see a mockery of football with two teams constantly battling for first and second, the super league (greek) is anything but super.

    La liga and Bundesliga, again great football, spectacular talent and tact but little in the way of suspense year in, year out as to who will triumph. You can pretty much pencil in Bayern/Dortmund-Real/Barca in august.

    The Premeir league has the speed, talent and tact of la liga dispersed throughout 10-15 clubs, instead of just two. There are always surprises. Defensive, hard-fought matches where team work and strategy opens the window for scoring chances.

    Another great season.
     
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    Smarting Red here, let's limit the chat to tennis racquets OK? :oops:

    LOL!
     
  23. jason586

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    JGADS - I did not see a way to email you via the public profile, so I did not know a better way to contact you other than through this thread.

    Are you still selling off a 7G and BA98???
    My email platinum586 at hotmail dot com
     
  24. Ross K

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    Morning RHs,

    I know the new black 2012s are what everyone's raving about PD-wise ATM, but what's ppls thoughts around here on the PDGT?

    The only standard PD I have any experience of is the old Team version, which I found very easy to play with, light and bit flimsy, and pretty powerful, and all around a frame that suits my game pretty well indeed (as you'd expect from an APD user). Just curious as I may be acquiring one in a trade.
     
  25. JGads

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    Both of those frames were sold awhile back. My apologies if I didn't update the threads. Actually regret that I sold off that second 7G in my frame trim-down as I have since gone back to using it as my primary. Oops.
     
  26. Meaghan

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    Unless you can't bare to part like rossy boy, this is the scourge of racketaholics around the world.
     
  27. Dave M

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    I thought it was an ok frame, i prefer the feel of the earlier swirly and original ones but it was up there, if i was using a pd i'd have them in the bag as it were alongside the others.However the cortex version........:shock: waste of pennies that was!
     
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    I have now spent a further 6 hours with the Mantis 315 Tour. So far I am pretty impressed. I spent about three hours with the racket in stock form and then a further three hours with 4 inches of lead tape inside the throat on each side. Stock or modified this is a very stable players racket. Strung with their Power Polyester and the Comfort Synthetic the overall feel is a modern racket in a more traditional players head size and design. It looks like the Aerogel 200 but the feel is closer to Babolat or for example the Head YTIG Speed range. The control is outstanding, and the feel and touch very good. With the lead added my regular partner thought I was getting more pace and spin than with my Bio 200s (themselves weighted at 355grams). That said this is not a racket that has the power and spin of an APD or a PDR.

    Because we had dry courts (and even some sunshine!) this weekend my tennis was always going to be better than of late. But I found it pretty easy to play all my shots, and in particular to hit the ball hard with a lot of spin from the back of the court (which is the way I play) and then to come in. Volleys and touch shots worked well for a new racket.

    I will keep hitting with this and let you know how it goes.

    I also mentioned in another post that I have tried the Mantis Tour balls. We opened a tube of four when we started to play yesterday and hit for two hours with them. They were beyond shot by that point but I would say they compare well with the Head ATP that I like. I have also bought some Yonex balls recently but have yet to try them.

    CC
     
  29. Power Player

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    I'd trade for the roddick version or pass. The 2012 IMO is a much improved pure drive.

    GOATed a Head Extreme MP for a few minutes yesterday. Friend of mine had one and I hit with it. It is a very light stick which makes blocking back shots a tall order. Hits pretty big. Obviously a racquet for folks that come over the ball, so I was getting some solid top. Not any more than my PDR, and obviously not as heavy of a ball. the feel was ok..kind of like an APDC.

    The head shape is very round which was cool to compare against the PDR. The PDR is narrower and has elements of that classic oval to it instead of just looking like a lollipop. I think possibly that is why it is so good at control for being a tweener, but I could be wrong. Anyway the Head Extreme lives up to it's name in terms of headshape.
     
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    In the gut/poly setup you use CoFocus blue or gold? 16L or 17 L? What tension do you recommend for a APDGTwith this setup?
     
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    I need to soften the APD, its getting to my nerves.:twisted:
     
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    I use 1.23 blue cofocus, but just because it matches my racquet. Pick what you like.
     
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    I'm going full alu @58lbs in the vc95d folks, wanna join me for the short but beautiful ride :)
     
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    Thanks for the update. I saw the 7G was sold, but the thread mentioned you might have another for sale in the near future and the BA98 thread was not marked as sold.

    Question: Would I like the 7G if I'm looking for a lighter i.prestige MP with a bit more pop/power?

    I have an NCode 6.1 95 (16 x 18) that I like the power in, but it is also a bit too heavy and has less control than the I.prestige mp.
    I have a MG Prestige MP that is a great weight and balance but little pop/power in comparision.
    I tried the Donnay Platinum 99, and it had good pop/power and swung light with the thin frame; but it caused a little pain in my shoulder while serving, was a more unstable on off-center shots probably from the thin beam, and was a bit head heavy (didn't want to increase the overall weight by adding a bunch of weight to the handle).

     
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    Another question as I see you played with both APD and 7G:
    How does the 7G compare to the Aeropro Drive?
    Does the 7G give a similar ball to the APD but in a more arm friendly form?

    I was just reading about Torres recent APD experience, plus most the top juniors I rally with play the racquet, and they get incredible pace/power. I've hit with their APDs a couple times, and they were having a hard time with the increase in my pace, but I just didn't like the hollow feel. I am now reconsidering.
     
  36. JGads

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    Jason,

    7G could be right up your alley. For me it's an easier-to-wield 6.1 that puts just SLIGHTLY less charge into the ball, but still crushes all day long. Giant sweetspot but very controllable. Natural ball trajectory is more of a Prestige drive vs a spin, but spinning it when you want is not difficult. I've played with just about every frame because I'm a compulsive maniac, and the 7G is a true diamond. The extra length is the one thing that bothers some, though, just have to feel it out for yourself. But it's a frame that rarely ever let's me down depth wise as I don't often overhit even though the power and sweetspot is EXTREMELY generous (TW power/SS map also proves this) and I'm always getting great depth with ease, don't have to work too hard for it.

    APD is just a different category of frame. Much easier to use, probably, but if you felt the 'hollow' feel bothered you before, it may very well bother you again. If you're a Prestige guy, then it sounds like feel is important to you.

    For me, the APD is a nice frame once I get the hang of it, but I never feel entirely in control of the ball like I do with the 7G or a Prestige, and I'm never a fan of that hollow feel. I also hit with a lot of spin naturally, so when I play a stick that enhances spin like the APD, it's just too much spin and not enough drive through the court, and especially control both depth wise and changing direction
     
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    Sounds like I definitely want to give the 7G a try. I use a 2HBH which is my weaker side, so the extra length may help with that. I mostly play 4.0 singles and stay at the baseline only coming in to finish off points. I'm only 5'8"; so the extra length may help once I get used to it.

    Do you what the pallet/handle is made off on the 7G and can you sand it down from 4 5/8 to 4 3/8?
     
  38. JGads

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    Not totally sure, to be honest, about the pallet and sanding it down. I'll tell you this: the two-handed backhand is without question my most improved shot with the 7G. It's my weaker shot, too, but it's easily at its best with the 7G. Extra length plus the very nice long grip makes it just perfectly comfy to grip and rip.

    Report back when you try it, curious to see how it'll go for you. And keep in mind it might take you a few sessions to get used to the length, so don't be surprised if there are bumps along the road. Worth it in the end, though.
     
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    OMG, amazing how much difference there is with a bit of lead...

    Started to have a little hit with an old (it's seen better days for sure) PD Team, but I found it so flimsy and light, and really lacking in oomph, I couldn't cope with it and quickly switched to my APD/O.

    Okay these are different frames (though "siblings" really) and there's a few other variables (strings, etc), but the big thing for me was the lead. With just 6 in the b/cap and @ 12 on my APD, the difference in the ball coming off that compared to the PD Team was like night and day, chalk and cheese, ie HUGE. Now I was getting that easy depth, penetration and heavy ball that I'm more accustomed to. I should also mention the hoop feel so much more solid too.

    Anyhow, you know how I was moaning about the set up last week... guess what? I think I'll persevere a bit longer with it!:)
     
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    ^^R, I didn't realize you had not tried a PDR before. That's probably your answer right there.

    The BDR like PP's has exactly what you are looking for: effortless, ball crushing power combined with better feel.
     
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    Damn, I might have to look at this frame now!:)
     
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    ^^In my experience (I owned a standard PD team, a standard length pdr cortex and later an XL pdrgt) the pdr has more balls then even a leaded up pd.

    The way the balance is on the pd in stock form can make it tricky to get the static weight up and still maintain the balance you need. I prefer not to mess around with silicone so I prefer the beefier pdr.

    The pdr does all that in the stock package. Just add strings and you're good to go. Given your frame preferences, I would be quite surprised if you didn't like it.
     
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    Just picked up my 2k11's just the right amount of cushion, padding and upper stability combined with weight and that lovely sit up lunarlite sole.

    Looks like I'm gonna have to wait til I come back off holiday for my yy89t
     
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    For the record I decided to spend a little more time with my PDR lead free so I took the 6 grams off of one last night. I am not late or having issues with groundies, but I want to see the difference on serve. I put the lead on rather fast after buying, but the good news is that I know that setup works really well for me too, so I can always go back to it.

    The 2012 PDR swings so fast that I just defaulted to lead..lol.
     
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    Lol not so fast... pd 2012 + lead + leather grip > PDR 2012 cus...

    If it's too heavy you can always reduce... the pdr may be too heavy for some.
     
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    Going by his past history, the 2012 PDR will not be too heavy for Ross IMO.
     
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    Like PP said, Ross has swung the PC + swirly, he can def handle the pdr.

    I realize the weight is the same on the modded PD listed above as it is on a PDR but I prefer the built in oomph of the PDR.

    I think Fed K has said something similar about Frankenstein setups where you have to add a lot of lead play differently than a heavier stock stick. When I used the apdgt last year, I had 21g of lead on mine and I preferred the stock pdr....just me though :)

    I do realize that pro stock frames come in around 250g or so before being prepped, it's just that I like the heavier stock feel.
     
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    Ah how true lol!

    I'm coming from my past of using 365g sticks but recently with these more stable sticks, there is hardly anything I need to do get a very decent racquet.
     
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    I'm with PED. I only add lead now now when I know exactly what I want, or else it becomes a second-guessing game. If I decide to add lead back to my PDR I will redo what I did before.

    I also like keeping the stick stock if possible. Not always easy, but the PDR and 6.1 are 2 sticks that you can easily do that with.
     
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    ^^^ Interesting stuff gentlemen that could potentially be ruinous for this here reformed racketaholic. :shock::)

    I've got to say that after a good few weeks of thought, the frames that I'd love to demo (but can't due to lack of proper demoing system in UK) are:

    VCore 98D and/or VCore 100

    Aerostorm Tour

    PDR 2012

    So as I'd have to buy one or get one in a trade ("Ross K's Tennis Warehouse" has a fair few rackets to tempt people :lol: ), it would have to be a very considered decision.

    Anyhow, "feelers" have now been put out re the PDR (PP and PED know me so well :wink: ), and my curiosity about both the VCore 98d and 100 (wish I could decide between these) refuses to die down.
     

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