Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.
Nope. I dont really lift heavy anymore. I stop all my lifts at 225, even squats. Its a low weight, but I do reps of 10 and im good.
Mad dog is right though. You are having issues that are way past any racquet. You should definitely dial it down with all the gear stuff. Of course you have said you would and haven't so you may be hooked on the purchase more than the on court success.
Ah the 6.1 95. Top shelf racaholic temptation. At some point, it gets us all.
I like Mike. I hope he finds a racquet that satisfies him.
He talked about the 6.1 being his dream stick a while back and I believe I suggested then that he should take the plunge and get it. I believe if Mike is comfortable with the weight of that frame, then there's absolutely no reason why he cannot play good tennis with it now and improve his game in the process as well. I almost bought one myself when I first demoed some sticks and other than the Extreme Pro 2.0 and my current Tecnifibres, it is probably my favorite frame I've played with.
I say go for it. Especially with the current price...buy a new one now and then keep your eye out for a used one on TW if you want a backup stick.
No need to apologize for it...
I believe you'll find one that clicks sooner or later.
In the meantime though, I still say you should set up a PayPal account and get on the classifieds in this forum. There are tons of opportunities to buy all different kinds of sticks at reasonable prices...you can also trade. I think it would be a great way for you to do some stick swapping and try out several different frames without investing too much money after the cost of your initials racquet(s).
Don't apologize for it. Embrace it and if you find a racquet that satisfies you, then stick with it. Until then, keep trying.
+1. If you get something that is popular for a reasonable price it is cheaper then demoing.
I just picked up an APD+ for $125 shipped. I played it for a while and it didn't click. Sold it for $115 locally. A demo would have been $16 from TW and would not have had the strings I wanted to try in it.
I have made money on most of the other racquets I have sold. I have picked up good stuff locally off craigslist or at used sports stores for less than the going rate. If I don't jive with them I sell them and use the profit to pay for sticks I do like. I currently have about 25 sticks in the closet and my total paid vs sold has me still in in the black by $21.62.
Thanks Spinny! I'm gonna hit with the 6.1 again tonight for a final decision.
Thanks all for the comments and thoughts of all sorts!
Yeah lighter weights are much better for you. I found that out after my knees started hurting as well as my back after I lifted wrong one time.
Yeah I need to get a racket, overhaul my footwork and form, and go from there.
Bammmm!!! Played So Well That I Made My Friend Quit. Im Sold!
Good luck. Better last more than 2 weeks!
I'm going to make myself last! Even if it kills me a little on the inside...
I may need to attend some group therapy sessions if the side effects get bad lol. This holic is finding a cure.
Hope it's not just the daunted HONEYMOON! Haha...congrats on finding one man.
Honeymoon or not, this is the stick that I'm stickin with! Lol! Thanks.
A solid stick and a classic...wish i could handle the weight
heh, I don't think it is a stretch at all to mention that when people get tired, footwork gets lazy and they may start to arm the ball more both of which are clearly representative of conditions that are more likely to cause injury and pain.
In my opinion, worrying about the 345g of a 6.1 95 makes no sense.
Everyone put down those dangerous POG's, 6.0 85's and PC600's before you injure yourselves!
I realize stiffness will play a factor but we're talking about a model that has a 20 year history and has been re-released 6 times.
Exactly my thoughts.
dunlop biomimetic 200 tour lol
What a wicked bat with full spiky shark yellow!
Never thought I could handle the log..... but
Only gripe was the huge SW variation and BP between my 2 sticks. Check out my previous post in another thread.
Bat 1: 4 3/8 grip W= 350 g, BP= 5.4 pts HL and SW = 338.
Bat 2: 4 3/8 grip W= 349 g, BP= 8.5 pts HL and SW = 317.
I like bat 1 best LOL
By the way, WTF with respect to this variation between the 2 bats????
Oh well, looks like I will have to break out the lead tape. Maybe even increase SW on bat 1 also LoL
I've never found racquet weight to be a big issue. It has much more to do with the balance and SW combo in my experience. Everyone has their own preference/sweet spot when it comes to specs. For example, although being roughly 0.5 oz heavier, I found the Prestige Pro to be more maneuverable and easier to swing than the Radical. The Pro was more HL and had a lower SW.
Some people suggest that lower level players should play with lighter racquets, implying, if not explicitly stating, that only more advanced players can use "heavier" frames. Yet, I've seen many other posts that state a player should use the heaviest frame they can comfortably wield. Both cannot be right, and IMO, both are wrong.
Ideally, you should demo several frames, preferably a few different types and find the one you prefer and go from there. It is very possible that your preference, or needs, could change as you improve, but there is no "one-size-fits-all" for x level of play. Everyone has their own taste. The pros themselves use a pretty wide range of racquets.
My only real "critique" of Mike would be when he decided to buy the Radical MPs on a whim without trying them out first.
Just giving you a hard time Mike.
Happy birthday to me. Just ordered 3 new ps ltd. and a pair of Nike CB 4.3, quite stoked right now.
Can anyone say how they play compared with the black and yellow ltds. I use now? They are the 2011 layup which looks different to the newest ones as well. Spaceba comrades.
If I'd taken the plastic off the handle, and got some fuzz on the strings, I'd have been out 25% of 189 bucks. The Extreme Pro 2.0 has the power I need - the overheads don't come back, like they did with the V1 Classic. The Pro V1, with its thinner beam, would have been even lower-powered than the Classic. I just ordered impulsively, maybe I'll demo it someday for grins.
You can kiss my butt spinny lol that was definitely the worst racket experience I've ever had... Really bad choice. You know what's interesting? I haven't seen P.Floyd or LeeD anywhere for quite some time!
Yeah that's true. I was just eager to here what you had to say about the pro version...looks pretty slick.
The new cosmetic of the Volkl Power Bridge 10 (2013) Mid is slick, too http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Volkl_Power_Bridge_10_2013_Mid/descpageRCVOLKL-PB10M.html
Oh yes, I know lol. Don't tempt me!
After I up my game with the 6.1 and use it for a couple years, I may start playing with mids. They just feel awesome.
You are setting some lofty goals. How about making it through 2 weeks first
Two days ago you we're praising the Blade 98 and I quote "I can't imagine anything any better".
Use the Wilson for a week...play against some equal and some tough opponents that make you work for points.
Then decide if its something you want to stick with. It seems to me like you are saying things here to please the audience and then you can't hold yourself to it. Just be true to yourself and lay out your own plan. One that YOU can deal with and YOU know deep down is best for you.
My main point about the 6.1 being demanding is not really focused on just the weight.
It is just not a forgiving frame late in sets when you are tired and it can punish you on mishits as it is not a comfortable stick. That is where the arm pain and injury can come into play.
All that aside, I really love that racquet a lot. I just have a lot of racquet head speed and on an off day, the vibrations started getting to me. Still one of the top racquets out there and I think it is a great choice for anyone. I played one of the most dominant matches of my life with it when I had it. Will never forget that.
Mike, I'd try and track down the older model as it is cheaper. The red/black/gold. Amazing beast stick. Lots of holic time devoted to it in this thread.
I'd like to try the 18x20 version. Based on what I've read, I think I might like it better than the 16x18. That isn't usually the case with me, but based on my experience with the open pattern and what I've read about the other, I think it might have been with that one.
Alas, I'm sold on the TFights right now, so I think I'll stick with them for the foreseeable future...and hopefully beyond.
But, I still have a little 'holic in me as well. Not so much an issue with me being dissatisfied with my current stick, but rather my curiosity about a few other frames that I never got around to trying before settling.
I have an 18x20 in 1/4 that ill sell if you want that gripsize.
I am being true to myself and I'm brainwashing myself of all other options. I played against a tough opponent yesterday, and I played very well because I had very little errors. I played well the other night against someone with it. Again, it was because of few errors. Not necessarily because I hit big shots.
It's comments like yours that actually make me skeptical about my racket selection TBH. While I appreciate the "big brotherly" advice, I just don't need anymore advice and I need to focus on this one stick, even if it is less than ideal for my game. However, I don't think it is.
I don't think they're lofty goals anyway. Most rackets start to get pretty used by then, especially if I was to stick with it. These are things that I NEED to be doing for myself. This winter, I want to join a 4.0 league at my club and keep up my fitness while getting back into the swing of college.
All versions of the Limited are essentially the same. Black versions had lighter swingweight and maybe a tad less pop because of that. But better RHS. No difference between 2011 and 2013 versions except for paint. Definitely one of my favorite sticks of all time. Have fun.
I actually want the racket to punish me a little. I've been playing with rackets that make the game way too easy and I start arming the ball to put spin on it. I took your advice last night and actively made myself use my core rotation starting from my legs and I was very consistent and I didn't get as tired as I usually do.
I really like both cosmetics of this racket, so if I see one in the future I may pick it up.
i see...you're into s&m. wrong forum. :twisted:
I say it's time to... bring out the gimp!
Lmfao! Guys...you make me look stupid at work while reading this :twisted:
Delpo's forehand. Can't get enough.
You're doing a bang up job of that on your own. I can't steal any of your thunder and take any credit.
OK I wish you the best of luck.
Thank you, my friend.
Thanks! and thanks for the reply, I've had these for a little over a year, love them but can feel theyre going soon. Figured Id better stock up and GT's are much easier to find; enter fuji. You have to love the deals you can find from fellow users on these boards.
Haha! I hope you enjoy them. I love those rackets, just not enough forgiveness for someone who has a bad shoulder like I do sadly!
How do you do on serve? That was the one vice for me. All else was basically perfect. Never had to work so hard to get good pop on a serve.
I'm not going to lie I can see my serve getting weaker in three setters because you have to work so hard with it. I found that placing balls with spin and kick I'm more effective than hitting bombs because they lack that extra pop late in the match. As I got used to it though it taught me to mix up my serves and pace myself and made my hard flat serve that much more effective because its more sporadic. I used to think of serving as just one repetitive thing and to a point it is but that racquet specifically made me think of serving as pitching where you really pick spots and mix up serves. I personally have a tough time when I have no idea what kind of serve is coming never mind where, incorporating that into my game has helped quite a bit.
On ground strokes though, personally, I haven't found a racquet that matches it. I'm hoping these gt's are as good as I hear.
The babolat guy on here said it's being updated in 2014.. I don't know what it needs but so help me if they ever put the cortex handle on the ltd. I'll lose it.
it's no secret i've been a big fan of the Vantage BC20. in fact, i've been a big fan of Vantage frames for quite some time. been wanting to get my grubby little hands on a Vantage custom 95" 63RA for quite some time, but they don't appear on the boards that often. well finally one did so i snagged it! it's one of the new Angell TC-95's. 27" length. 63RA. 330g and 315mm balance unstrung. took it with me to the courts for a hit w/ the Gads today. at 12.15 oz strung this was kind of outside my spec range and after a few balls in, it was clear that this was outside my normal comfort zone.
once i got home, i got to work on my new patient. i removed the pallets and found 4 x 14g of lead in the hairpin so i decided removing 1 would be enough. i also relocated 2 of the lead weights lower towards the butt cap. the Angell hairpin has 4 slots on both sides of the handle to hold lead. there's one slot on either side at the top of the handle and there's 3 slots on either side at the bottom of the handle. i removed one at the top of the handle and moved the 2 at the bottom position from the highest to the lowest.
end result unstrung with a leather grip is now:
static weight = 11.15 oz
balance = 310 mm
i'll string it up tomorrow but it should be:
static weight = 11.65 - 11.70 oz
expected balance = 315 - 318 mm
this is pretty close to my storms so i'm looking forward to getting this truly custom Angell on the court now.
strung up w/ Iontec 1.25 @ 50#
static weight: 11.70 - 11.75 oz
balance: 320 mm
pretty close to what i was expecting.
I had two Vantage VT221s, the 'predecessor' of the Angel TC95 so to speak. Very nice frames in terms of feel, performance and build quality. IMO, the Angells look even better with that gun metal glossy finish.
I think that the 6.1 95 gets everyone at some point. There's a reason it doesn't change much, spec wise. Overall, a great racquet.
I almost went there myself, but ended up with a Tec 320 instead.
If you're in to the whole MgR/I thing, the TW specs for the 6.1 95 are the closest I've seen to the magic 21.0
I also liked the 320 better.
Quoted for truth... N95 in a 100' hoop-size minus some heft - now that's the kind of frame I wish was out there.
There really isn't a whole lot in it for me right now between Graphene MP, IG Speed 315 and TFight 280.
The TF I'm continuing to play around with mods. Hit with it just now with what is maybe the best set up for me thus far (JG's 'Yonex set up, albeit reduced in lead amounts from 1st attempt). These new Tfights are ones I'd deffo recommend, especially if you want to look at lighter or 'platform' frames with good power and good control and truly is pretty good all around (inc. a 65 RA or so, which is my kind of flex). Only really off thing today was the grip. Hadn't bugged me previously but for some reason it just felt very, er, 'rectangular blockish'.
The Graphene MP impresses with it's comparative solidness, authoritative booming baseline performance allied with decent control, it swings pretty appealingly, and on a side-note, reg. TB plays very dynamically here. All in all, if you're into similarish frames as the APD, PD, 99s, J100, et al, it's got to be one to strongly consider.
But it's the older IG Speed which is currently slightly at the top of my pecking order... a tad extra reach can go a long way (especially on serve and 2hbh), I can tee up and time it a bit more sweetly on g/strokes than with the Graph. It's maybe a bit more longer strokes orientated, which seems to be something I'm slightly heading towards right now perhaps. Plus, though smaller in the SS I'm preferring the feel therein and just generally. The particular stability/solidness works for me, as does the slight drop off in power from the Graphene.
Not a huge amount in it though between these frames.
The TF grips ARE rectangular...a lot like Head's.
The Graphene MP is a great all around "pick up and play" racquet. Somewhat different from the prior 315 if u ask me.
I played the Speed 315 16x19 for a good while last year (around 4-5 mos.) and its a very nice racquet. Sweet spot can be a little small and power a little low, but the swingweight, plow and static weight were perfect for me at the time. If I were to use it now, I would go gut mains or full multi to amp up the power some.
I think I need to just shut my mouth. Really irritated right now...my shoulders killing me, and no I am not arming the ball. Need something softer and lighter guys. Please, I don't need any "I told you so" comments. I'm not having a good day.
I'm gonna go pretty low weight, and start modding so that I get exactly the swing that's comfortable for me. Pacific rackets look like the way to go in this direction.
Awesome stuff, man. Love the idea of the stick turning you into more of a Greg Maddux. Can see that being very effective. There's a guy in league who played with the Ltd (black version), very good player, and I seemed to see him wear down each time we played. After our last match I asked him how he likes the stick. He said 'just love it. Except on serve.' And he'd try to bomb all first serves. I think you've nailed just how to play with that frame. Sweet.
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