Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. ryushen21

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    Interestingly, I usually find 95s to feel a tad bit bulky but I really did not notice a huge difference between my Prestiges and the Black 94 in those terms. Felt very smooth and easy to swing.
     
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    Would the black be the easiest on the arm or does the tech on the Donnay's work, where there is no vibration or shock. I have the volkl x325 and the grip system truly effective but always have my eye on rackets that do not aggravate my golfers elbow. Donnay tech appears to be legitimate, as does the Volkl.
     
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    The Black is extremely arm friendly. Very soft and comfortable. I'm not sure about the others though.
     
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    There was a recent play test of the Lux Savage on the RSI site, a link to which can be found in the BHBR thread on the string page.
     
  5. Ross K

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    Agree. I always thought Alu felt kind of like alien technology... something not quite right there and threatening to you being:eek: ... However, Tour Bite and Babs = :)


    smirker,

    I'll check out that link. Thx.


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  6. Ross K

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    Dear Diary,

    What to do?... what to do?...

    [​IMG]

    After ages whittling it down I seem to have arrived at these 2 frames - the APD and PC+. Both are pretty different, but both seem to provide me something I love.

    I've now been directly testing these two against each other for a few weeks and I can't decide... the PC+ wins out on feel, control, plow and stability, and - especially - b-line consistency; whereas the APD wins on being a lot easier to use generally, whilst still hitting big and spinny, and being like an addictive, lot of fun hit.

    The big downer of both btw is the slowness/ sluggishness of the the hefty PC+, and the comparative lack of b-line consistency and control with the APD.

    So... hmm... yes, what to do eh?:roll:

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  7. Power Player

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    Simple..if you play 4-6 times a week go with the heavier stick.

    If you play less than that, go with the lighter one.

    And APG, all the Donnays are crafted to be arm friendly. Even the "stiff" platinum is more flexy then a classic Wilson per the hardcore owner of a classic Wilson.
     
  8. Ross K

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    Sorry to be a doof here PP but why? I would have thought the opposite was true.

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    Argh, you guys suck. Now I'm gonna have to try the plat before I'm ever happy. Thanks a lot.

    Now I just have to figure out how to demo from donnay...
    Grahh. They're so expensive too...
     
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    Sorry man!! You are really at the top tier right now. Don't do it if you can't afford it. The PSTGT is really awesome as well.

    Ross, getting consistent RH speed with a heavy stick requires more court time. That is why pros can use those real heavy SWs..they play so much that they never have timing issues. A bad day with a real heavy SW is no fun.
     
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    Haha I know. But part of me is also intrigued by having such an unknown racquet. An chance you could go onto more detail on it vs the PST?
    The biggest problem I have with the Pst is the slight tendency to spray it a foot or so wide on on the run forehands when I can't get it around in time. It sounds like the Donnay apparently solves that one with more control and feel as well?
     
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    Pyrokid you got off the radical huh? Why the switch?
     
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    I feel your pain, Pyro. If you have the splurge money, the 30-day return offer is kind of awesome, but if you don't, I have a strong hunch these Donnays will be hitting TW right after the French Open. Gotta believe the insane media blitz/FO Offer is a last splurge on their part to get as many people to buy directly from them before they let TW offer the Duals up. Just a hunch, though.

    In other news, anyone here ever play with a Flexpoint Prestige Mid? Picked up my BC20 from getting strung up at the local Sp Authority and found a rack of old demo racquets selling for $29. Among the tweeners sat a beautiful, barely touched, 9.5/10 Flexpoint Prestige Mid. You just don't do that to a racquetholic. Any Prestige Mid for $29, I'm taking it. Was also freshly strung with Prince Synthetic Gut. And no, I have absolutely no clue why the place still had a Flexpoint Prestige hanging out in the back. Just swinging it around, it swings so much lighter than the PC600 as well as the YT Mid I used to have. It'll get some play here as I twiddle my thumbs, eagerly awaiting the Plats to arrive. Speaking of that, is there anything more gutting than looking up the UPS tracking info and seeing "A shipping label has been created for this item, but it hasn't arrived at our shipment center yet..." for two full days? Right now, nothing.
     
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    Yeah I get more control with the plat and not a real loss on power. More importantly, I serve better with it. That is the key for when i pick a racquet.

    It just whips around far faster than the pstgt and no discomfort on off center hits. It is a more comfortable stick in general. The feel of the PSTGT is awesome..huge and plush..the feel of the platinum is going to be like a prestige with a much larger sweetspot.
     
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    JGads: The message posted by the USPS tracking number is all you're going to get. The package arrives when it arrives. UPS is better in that they tell you when it leaves/arrives at their hubs.
     
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    2 days? try over a week seeing that message. Then another week saying its been shipped, then another week before it arrives (this is with USPS)
     
  17. Power Player

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    New donnays are for sale..awesome. They list the plat 94 at 65 stiffness and the 99 at 61...validates me a little when I swore they were not stiff racquets ..lol.

    SWs seem a little low to me since Donnay says 325. Regardless this is real interesting..now people can demo these things! Pyrokid..get on it my friend.

    Really awesome that the 99 is rated at such a low stiffness..it is starting to really convince me that this racquet is the closest feel to the PC600 you can get.
     
  18. pyrokid

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    I dunno, I just tried the Pstgt and could hit a much heavier ball with way less effort.

    I'm just really hoping that this isn't the racquet it's made out to be haha. I mean... A PST with better feel and more control and manueverability just sounds too good to be true.
     
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    I am going to try my best not to demo those new Donnays. I just picked up at PT630 last night and I have a PT630 (under a LM Prestige paintjob) coming on Saturday. I'm psyched!
     
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    Yeah... Uhh. I anyone wants to buy a lifetime supply of mg radics to support the possibility of the plat being amazing, lemme
    know?
     
  21. ryushen21

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    It better feel more like 60 or I will not be a happy camper.
     
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    I feel like the youtek prestige mid feels a little stiffer personally. Definitely not as kind on off center hits.
     
  23. JGads

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    Confused by this. As I said, the shipment is UPS. Still says the label has been created but tracking info - expected date, etc - will be available once it arrives at their center. Ugh. If I'd have known about a delay in the shipment, I might have splurged for the expedited shipment. Oh well.

    Really liking the two Platinum specs. The larger 99 has got to be more powerful, you'd think, but perhaps they mitigate this by decreasing the stiffness level a bit. And the lower-than-expected swingweight is also intriguing, as it might allow that little room to make added weight on those alternate buttcaps very manageable. (when I switched the Dark Red to the 10g buttcap, that's when the frame sung)

    Had a very nice session with the freshly strung BC20 tonight. The Plats have a LOT to live up to.
     
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    Keep up the commentary guys... great reading!

    I had a great session, in singles & doubles, yesterday with the MgPresMid... despite narrowly losing the singles match and getting bageled with my partner in doubles... The girls were watching and my partner felt the need to try and pummel the ball... which resulted in alot of errors.

    My groundstrokes were on fire... but my serving was erratic (wind conditions did not help)... the PresMid is so easy to get in/out of a groove with... I would fire away 2-3 aces... only to be followed by 4-5 double faults... even after 3years of playing with this frame.. it still begs for technique and rudimentary basics... it's like a therapy session between my body and my mind..

    Anyway, when you have a beach with crystal clear mediterranean waters to dive-in after sweating for about 3hours, right next to the courts... there's no such thing as losing ;)

    DEMO LIST:... as soon as I get back to the States...

    Babolat- PDGT.. PSGT... and PSLGT
    Head- Speed IG 16x19.. and YTPP
    Yonex-RdiS 200
    Prince-EXO3 Tour 16x18
    ProKennex-BA93
    Donnays-Whatever I can get my hands on...

    NOTE TO SELF.. need to get ahold of an i.prestige Mid or MP
     
  25. Ross K

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    Morning all,

    Okay, spoke with 'the modfather' (PED :)) and I've decided to try a further 2 grams or so of lead on top of the hoop of the APD. I've really enjoyed my 3 sessions with the APD during the last 2 weeks but I just want to get closer to the b-line consistency and precision of my PC+... BTW, the delayed return of my fave PC+ from the stringer means I've been looking at the PSTGT+ a bit... don't enirely know why but, and though it displays similar traits to the PC+ (they are extremely similar), I do prefer the Gonzo stick - the PC+.

    Shame I might have less tennis on in the next few weeks as I've enjoyed testing the APD and PC+ (PSTGT+) directly against each other and want to carry it on.:(

    R
     
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    ^ Maybe I should add the APDGT to my demo list... my 10min. rally with it a year ago was brief and strange (some demo strings at ~40lbs). I'd like to give all the babolats a fair go.
     
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    With the proviso that it fits your game, then definitely...

    One thing I've taken note of having played the same player three times in quick succession (me and him are very evenly matched too), playing with the same 2/3rackets and all strung with my fave Tour Bite low 50s too, is at my level, with my dodgy knee, with my degree of advancing decrepitude (ha-ha), and - and this is the important bit - with me being most at home in a one-dimensional, robotic, repetetive, Igor Andreev-like way of playing (pictured below) :)... or put another way, as a w/screen wiping, topspin addicted b-line basher who appreciates the added oomph, and regards the net with the kind of huge suspicion known only to producers considering Mel Gibson for movie roles... er.... yes, the APD is very well suited to me (as indeed is the PC+, although quite different.)

    [​IMG]

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  28. ryushen21

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    This will singlehandedly ruin all other prestiges for you. I was thinking that I would like the i.Prestige but that my YTs would still end up being my main frames. The YTs never stood a chance after that first hitting session.
     
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    JGads: Oops. You did say UPS. Interesting, because UPS always (at least for me) shows updates every few days such as 'Arrived ..', 'Left ...' and 'Out for delivery.' If it is a ground shipment, maybe a weather delay? Anyway, hope you get your shipment soon. BTW, in the US, it only takes them 7 days to ship stuff from East Coast to West Coast.
     
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    We shall see. I'm a little steamed that B5E isn't in stock. So I'm going with Tornado and BC for my Plat trials.

    At least if I don't like the Plat I can unload them in great condition and snag some i.Prestige mids.
     
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    Might as well.... I'm down to 2 MgPresMids... :?

    The first one broke on serve last summer... OG needed changing (that particular one weighed 13.8oz) :shock:

    Today, when changing OGs, I noticed a nice crack at the bottom of the throat of the racquet that I was swinging yesterday....

    I'll keep swinging it until I can put my partner's health insurance to the test... :twisted:

    As Ross suggests, I think I might end-up really liking the YtPresPro....
     
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    Ahh, in that case go for it. The i.Prestige really is something special.

    Or, you could always chase down a TGK 237.1...
     
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    I hear 'ya.... I'm under the impression that so-called 'flat hitters' can use relatively anything.... the opposite is not quite true.... players who like to use that loopy swing to exaggerate top-spin are kind-of limited to what racquets they can swing....

    Take for example our friend in the hat below....

    [​IMG]

    he has no problems flattening it out with the APD.... neither should I right :)
     
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    I don't want to even go down that road... chasing pro-stock frames... I just told my wife that a pair of Marc Jacobs sunglasses were too much $$$$.... and that, are finances at least, must be mutually agreable.... if I spend $300-$500 on a pro-stock frame (good luck explaining that one to her.. even though she's played for years)... I'll have some trouble on my hands.
     
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    I dont know Klem, I hit with a looped forehand and I prefer prestige style tight pattern sticks. I don't want more spin, because I can generate my own. There are no rules for any of this stuff because everyone has a different ball they want to generate.

    I used to go by the flat hitter = tight pattern concept, but I now believe it to be wrong. I was open pattern tweener guy for a while when I jumped back into tennis because I read all these rules on here..but they were completely off for my game and I have been much happier with tighter patterns.

    And I hated chasing the out of date sticks and pro stocks as well. I was going to try and get another 237.3 TGK and it was just so hard to find and so expensive. I am quite happy the platinum came out because it has eliminated any urge for me to track down old school racquets or pro stocks now.

    Poor guy I sold the TGK to emailed me a month later saying he loved it ans wanted to buy 2 more and couldn't find them anywhere. I hated to tell him that I had no idea where to look besides string forum.
     
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    ^ I agree ... I hit out in front and like to flatten it out (only when I'm pushed back and the ball is 6feet high do I resort to the 'loop')... I've noticed that I can use any racquet with great success.

    I would imagine though, that players who use that 'nadal'-like loop... a frame like the PresMid could be working against them.

    EDIT: You probably enjoy the control aspect of 18x20 patterns... that ability to find corners and hit short at times... I imagine you mix-it-up quite a bit....

    That's why I don't want to venture down the 'pro-stock' road.... exactly what you said.
     
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    Yeah the nadal spin game to me is a gamble that your opponent has not seen balls like that. I prefer pace lower trajectory and heavy top that kicks off near the baseline instead of the service box.

    It is nice to see Djoker hitting with this style and dominating. It makes more sense to me.

    Although I do hit reverse forehands when I have to (pulled wide). I like that I can do any type of shot I want with the racquet. I actually have gotten much better at moonballing a backhand as a defensive tactic, and the spin i get off the bounce with the platinum is really surprising for an 18x20.
     
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    why god why?
     
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    OH GOD NO... :shock:
     
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    Fed,

    That's a great pic ^^^... ha-ha!:)

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    No freakin way. A Pure Storm Tour, fine. But a PURE DRIVE?!

    And fellow racquetholics, has the GOAT become one of us? Will he be showing up at the next meeting?
     
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    WTF?

    (or is he thinking WHY TF am I using this? Oh yeah, $$$$$$$$)

    Either that or he lost a bet............;)
     
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    I think this pic was from a while ago during his match with roddick when he was playing really poorly and just asked to try out roddick's frame. Exo, I believe...
     
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    -----------edited out...blame it on my MPD.
     
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    Recon,

    How you rolling with string/tension/mods on that APD Orig? I've now got 4g @ 12 and 7g fishingweight in butt.


    All,

    I'm away for a while so, having played a lot recently (a lot for me anyway), no tennis for me for about a week.:(

    Hit me with your racketaholic tales this week gents!


    R
     
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    I stole your exact setup like a month ago, It WORKS. The pocketing is immense. It doesn't waver against big hitters and its not overly powerful. Still remains light enough to whip through anything, and decent serves come flying off. I use BHSR 55lbs.
     
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    even the biggest fedfards in the world can GOAT an APD

    [​IMG]

    I've tried it but it didn't work for me...

    I feel the strange urge to re-visit the prince black tho.
     
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    ^^

    Ha! That's hilarious. Just think about all the leftover gear that guy could have from his boy. If I were Fed's friend I'd shamelessly try to get as many Henleys and Victory Masters polos as I could possibly get.

    (been drooling over old tennis garb on **** lately, can you tell?)

    Tried the APD a few times myself and actually really like it. It's a spin monster and better on serve than people give it credit for. But I never felt like I HAD to have it when I hit with it, like some others.
     
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    The original APD is awesome. I personally just can't do the thick beam thing, and I gave it a very good college try. The PDR almost made me change my mind, but now that I can have a super thin beam with big power, I have the best of both worlds.
     
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    Played with a Dual Core Platinum 99 yesterday and......................


    This thing is heavy, and it's powerful! That was my first impression anyway.

    A buddy of mine went for it due to the 30 day money back thing and I have access to it for about a week because he's on holiday. Also I'm his stringer so, yeah, should be fun.

    Anyway, on to the first impressions:

    As stated above, the stick is heavy. It could just be the one I used, but it's definitely much heavier than the published specs. Strung, it's actually a touch over 350 grams with an OG. The balance is off as well. It's 6 pts with the OG as opposed to the published 7 w/o the OG.

    Build quality is outstanding and it's just such a beautiful frame, looks and feels solid.

    Playtest:

    Off the ground this thing felt slow honestly. It's not that much heavier than my PPro but it's for sure harder to swing. I have a long FH motion and I was having a hard time not hitting late. It's also a very, very powerful racquet. I strung it up with B5E/OG Micro at 52/54# and this was much too low. Control was lacking and many balls sailed long.

    The racquet was fantastic when counterpunchig though, because it's so solid and so stable and hefty. If timed properly, I could return a hard hit ball with barely any backswing for a winner.

    Topspin and slices were very good but, but I can't can't really make a call because I really wasn't grooving with this beast. It is a very comfortable racquet though and Donnays' claims seem to be true, you get the power of a 70RA stick but it feels like a 62-64 RA racquet.

    My playtest wasn't very long, and I'll be taking it out for a spin in a couple of days so I'll be posting my further impressions. Overall though, if there's 2 things I can take from my initial hit is that this beast is HEAVY and POWERFUL.

    The power really is something special, when I connected this thing crushed the ball. Absolutely crushed it. This is a very powerful stick indeed, if fact I actually found it too powerful and with my full swing I'd often send it sailing.

    I'm thinking of going full poly with this monster at a mid to high tension, maybe full B5E at 56#.

    Final thoughts:

    Unless the strings really make that big of a difference, I have to say I was quite disappointed with the Donnay. Given the published specs, I thought this stick would be like a souped up Prestige MP, or a more forgiving Prestige Mid. In other words, perfect.

    In reality though, and this could just be the one I played with, the weight is just too much. Haven't measured SW, but I'd say it's between 325-330. Combined with the hefty 350+g weight, I must say the Donnay will probably never grow on me.

    I loved the feel though, and the power, and It's really got me looking at the Platinums little brother, the Gold.......but really, the PPro has nothing to worry about.

    Power Player:

    Would you mind chiming in with the specs of your Platinums? Part of my underwhelming impression of the Plat is largely based on the fact that it's much heavier than expected.

    Thanks
     

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