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  1. el sergento

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    If you're going down the PPro route, I'd just stick with the TEC. Honestly, you'll just end up loving the PPro but wishing it had a more open pattern, it's pretty tight in the middle.
     
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    Installing pallets is easy unless you're the type that can't handle building Ikea furniture.

    In terms of tools, you need a hairdryer, a long knife, an exacto knife and a staple gun.

    Essentially, you heat up the old pallets for like 10 minutes, or until the glue melts, then you pry them off. You apply the new pallets one at a time, so that it's easier to cut off the excess length with an exacto knife, and then restaple the butt cap.

    I suggest getting some trap door butt caps while you're at it for easy future modding, you can buy Head ones for cheap, or **** probably sells them too.
     
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    The C10 is more comfortable, more spin, true 98 and has awesome Kevlar
     
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    The LeeD Autograph.

    That was back when Dunlop was still making awesome player frames.
     
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    Very sweet frames indeed. Weird about the sound thing though. Whenever this guy hit with them they cracked so loud, very PS-eske.

    Absolutely wonderful to lead up and play with. Chasing the dragon? Sort of. I think the key is finding the right string set up and tension AFTER weighing up the frame. The Div 1 girl uses ALU Power at 58lbs. Interesting that they both strung the same tension, albeit with relatively different poly and gauge. It definitely likes tighter tension though. I played with his strung at 62-64 and loved it. That being said, I`m a total sucker for higher tensions when I`m not coaching.

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    Maybe I wasn't hitting hard enough :) but usually though the sound can be perceived better as a bystander. I once tried a frame that felt and sounded off to me. Gave it to my hitting partner and from where I was, opposite end of the court, sounded great

    I'm just comparing it to my other frames I know well like the tec315ltd and pt57a's and I felt like I couldn't crack an egg with it and not close in audible feedback to those frames
     
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    I'd love a description of this.

    Thats rather cool. I string at 56-60#s as well. Hybrid poly/syn gut. Standard setup.

    Does it have more power than the Babolat pure storm Ltd?
     
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    Yeah I can agree with this. The Tec rules all the current prestige offerings. No need to really mess with it.

    For the record I find the Yonex tour G, and I have said this before to, to be a high powered frame. So maybe that helps give an idea of what kind of power levels I prefer.

    The Tec, modded how I have it, is as well.
     
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    That's cool. Do you smoke most of the 4.0s? That's a wide variety of levels to play. I couldn't imagine playing 3.5-4.5. I would easily beat some of the 3.5s and then get demolished by the 4.5s.
     
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    Yes, but the 4.0s are really good here so you have to play focused. They usually have weak backhands, so I hit to their backhand a lot. After set 1 they are expecting everything there so I start hitting cross court for easy winners.

    I also come to the net a lot, lot more. Hence me living these heavier, more classic frames.

    When my serve was not consistent I was losing to those guys just due to that. It is amazing how once I got my serve going, it quickly took me back up a level.
     
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    Sweet! Oh for sure. I think the PSL and Redondo are tied for deadest frames ever. This thing definitely has more pop. It`s not a tweener by any means, but definitely has some easier pop stock. When weighed up though, I think it hit such a stupidly heavy ball. Just a combination of good string spacing, right beam width, and the 95 head kept if from getting too sluggish.

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    Hahaha! It`s definitely no worries. That frame just rewards stupidly hard hitting, and obviously both of these people do that. Makes sense, The PT57A is one of the sweetest frames out there in a lot of regards. I just never jelled with the 315 after I used it for a month or so.

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    Thanks for the info. Normally the answer is just to demo, but since this frame requires lead, it's a little tricky.
     
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    Also there are ways to make things more interesting if you are playing someone is more than half a level below you, like if you were playing a 3.5 and you're a 4.5. You could use it as an opportunity to work on things, like say serve and volley almost every time or hit only DTL backhands or aim to keep every ball with a few feet of the baseline or go for big angle shots. Stuff like that.
     
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    Im not good enough to toy with people so I just work in refining my game as much as I can really.

    Thinking I will hold off on all stick purchase until the RF315 comes out. I will then have the PS95 as a backup option.

    Very unholicy, but I don't see the need in dropping the coin right now.
     
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    Sounds good! I hope to hear of a RF315 vs PS95 show down in the future! ;)

    -Fuji
     
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    You called? :)

    It's actually not that low powered once you get into the typical Pro Staff spec range. I have decent put away power with this frame, certainly more than my stock Prestige Pros. The spin too is very impressive (actually, now that I think of it, the frame resembles your Tec315Ltd in many regards…).

    I'd say that the racquet plays better the heavier you make it. The problem is that most people do not like frames heavy enough in order to really appreciate this one here. It's too bad Wilson didn't release it with specs more suited to it (something closer to a Prestige Pro perhaps)… The racquet would have been much better received by the general public and perhaps not discontinued.
     
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    Yeah that is why I am intrigued by it. Its the only thing close to the Tec.

    I do like heavy frames..well if the SW is not too high as well. The Tec rocks at 352, but I like the tip speed I can get when I drop it down a little to 340-345.

    So basically I'm going to mod my Tec down to 345 by pulling lead off the handle, install a wilson pallet, and then slam the counterweight against the butt. I find that to be highly effective in counterbalancing compared to a leather grip or lead strips on the pallet.

    Did you demo the Tec?
     
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    Well, they did, only it was 20 years ago. That's why I recommended picking up an original, it's already spec'd out to where it's usable. It's also so headlight that despite the 360 g's, it's still lighting quick through the air.
     
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    Serge, played with the MGPMP last night...i think you're right about needing more lead. :)
     
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    I had a demo on order, but it didn't come after 4 weeks and then I was into the competitive season, so I had to drop the order :mad:

    It is a racquet I definitely want to demo though and I will try to do so once I have the chance.
     
  23. JGads

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    PP, here's what I would do: if still interested, wait and see if a used PS 95 pops up from TW, and if so, grab it, toy with it as a project stick for a bit and if you cant get it there, you have 30 days to return for a full refund, shipping included. Or, if you find one cheap enough on the message boards that can be flipped at a $10 loss after a few weeks, go that route.

    The feel is perfect. Wilson box beam pluch crispness. I'd definitely put my money on the feel of the PS95 being much better than the upcoming lighter RF, as you just can't beat a true box beam; it's the zing that could be missing compared to the RF. But, you are a stronger guy than most of us here, so who knows?
     
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    See Gads I have missed your logic and reasoning. That is how I figure as well.

    Too much power is a bad thing for me. My favorite frames are the tec and dunlop 100..the yonex tour G..etc.

    I just have a weird feeling that I could really like this PS95 more than the PS97.

    Lots of waffling by me, but it's a fun thing to waffle about.
     
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    I'm so happy with the PS95 that I bought two more now as they are being discontinued. It feels so good hitting with it; like a knife carving through butter! Yes, it is low powered, but 4g at 12, 4g in total at 3/9 and 7g of tungsten putty in the buttcap made wonders for me (specs in signature). It now has great plow through and stability, while keeping its good feel and manoeuvrability. Ofc, I can't compare it to the RF97 as I haven't hit with it.
     
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    Galdust, nice. That is a similar setup to what I would do.
     
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    Have to love the local store demos for sale. Got a 2012 PS95 for next to nothing today. The crazy thing is the racquet is only 300 grams. Thats 15 grams under spec. Wilson is just terrible at this. SW was 304 on the RDC.

    So I have a lot of lead on this beast. Got it to some really nice specs - 345, 325 SW, 6 pts HL with everything on it. Pretty much right in my wheelhouse.

    Another trick I did to achieve this (or I would also do if I had one that was not so underweight) is I put a Babolat skin feel on it. It drops the weight a little and also takes a grip from 3/8 to between 1/4 and 3/8ths. I feel like this is a really nice grip size, especially if you like to come to net. Since **** sells this size for Head pallets I want to mess with it before I buy a pallet for the Tec.

    Just bouncing the ball off the strings I have to say this thing feels great. Kind of like the Tour G, but the pocketing is more pronounced. Threw in my usual poly/forten and went with 58#s and Snake Bite Red as the poly for the full Fuji experience.

    It would be nice if this specs out and plays like a winner. The prices are only going to drop on the 2012 and then the 2014, so it would be easy to gradually stock up on them.
     
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    Hahaha holy crap that is insane how off spec it is. I love it. My buddy's must have been close to that. Specs sound so sweet.

    Also, digging the shoutout! Have you ever used Snakebite before? Let me know how you like it! You have my identical string set up now haha, tension and all.

    -Fuji
     
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    Love. Dynamite specs. For my money a box beam Wilson will always feel better than just about anything, including a Tour G. The question is if it will crack it sufficiently.

    Go forth, brave warrior.
     
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    Yes I bought a pack when you mentioned it before. I liked it a lot, its like a half notch below poly break, which is great. Very good string for the price.

    Agree. The Tour G has fantastic feel, but I can't see it beating an 18 mm box beam. Plus the spin generation on this Wilson should make it more forgiving. I can just tell hitting balls off the wall that this thing is going to be a classic in terms of the feel.

    Definitely setup to hit big, so if it can't deliver at these specs it's not meant to be.
     
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    and there it is...
     
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    Sweet! I'm glad to hear it. It's such a great string, especially for the price. I definitely agree that is a set up to hit huge with, I can't wait to hear your findings.

    -Fuji
     
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    Good luck my fren. Bit of advice, this thing cuts through the air like mad, weight at 3&9 helps pancake the ball a bit.

    At those starting specs, the world is your oyster.
     
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    Dudes, I'm getting 4 hours out of my NXT. Tell me I don't have to back to poly? Does anyone have any experience with some 15g syngut, possibly a a multi.

    Btw, a hybrid is even worse, the poly ate through the NXT in something like three hours, and that's without serves.

    Thanks
     
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    What frame? The Tec?
     
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    I used to use Prince Topspin 15. was pretty sweet.
     
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    The EXO with its super open pattern. The TEC is the goat string saver, especially te 18/20, hardly ever broke with that one.
     
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    sounds about right unfortunately. NXT in my POG 100 last me ~2 hours. in a Pure Drive, NXT 16 doesn't even last through 1 set for the local open level tennis pro i string for.
     
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    Oh..yeah, you are kinda screwed there I'm afraid.

    Id suggest RIP control or go cheap with Forten Sweet if you don't mind restringing.

    Forten Sweet feels like a $12 string. It's awesome.
     
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    just by sheer coincidence, i might have found the racquet that has the characteristics i am looking for. of course since i have a bunch of racquets in my collection, it's just been sitting around.

    so my #1 stick has been the 2013 APD. positives are power, power, power, ease of use, great on defense, spin, and did i mention power? i started experimenting with the MG Prestige MP to lower the trajectory of my groundies to get tighter spin and more penetration through the court. it's been a mixed bag so far as the Prestige is much lower powered allowing me to swing my bigger and the ball stays in. but when i switch back to the APD, there's always a period of adjustment where i have to remind myself i can swing at 60-70% to get great results. anyhow, i just happened to bring the Yonex Ai98 out to the court yesterday and this seems to be just what i'm looking for. more easy power than the Prestige and lower trajectory than the APD. plan to spend more time with it over the next few weeks. :)
     
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    Unavailable in Canada.......:evil:

    I stocked up on NXT, so I don't want to change strings all together. I think I'm just going to hybrid with a good, but cheap syngut.
     
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    LOL..not a surprise. I knew you'd like it months ago when I got it. It's a great frame for APD lovers who want more flex and that driving ball.

    Here is why I switched - I prefer the classic feel of the Tour G. Besides that, the frame is freaking awesome. Keep in mind, it is god mode for flat serves, but if you primarily serve spin, it is a little tougher. The Tour G is extremely similar in many ways, but it has less power.



    Reading that reminds me - the further down the hole you go, the more specific you can get. It boils down to wins, feel and confidence for me. I still have that total package with the Tec. So far nothing beats it, but I weighed it last night and its 355. It's a beast. And I tend to hit a little deeper than I'd like with it sometimes. But I also can spin in first and second serves and get easy sitters a lot. Tougher to do that with the YY.

    So I am very interested in if the Pro Staff can deliver at 10 grams less and a thinner beam. Thats a lot of free tip speed coming from what I have been using.

    It reminds me of the Dunlop 300. A racquet that unfortunately I got far too early in my modding journey. Regardless, with these types of sticks you can't just slap lead on and hope for the best. You need to have an exact target of what you are looking for or else the frame will end up in the F/S section.
     
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    Held and swung both of the new RF frames in a shop today that had early, strung samples in. Was quite surprised that the Autograph didn't swing nearly as heavy to me as I expected. Very headlight. Maybe this changes on court with balls fast approaching, and especially during a second set and third set. But in between Nike clearance racks it was totally manageable. The lighter version swung really nicely, too, definitely easier but it wasn't night and day compared to the Autograph. Other thoughts: after not really liking the paint job online, in person, holding it, something weird happened and it suddenly looked quite nice. I also looked in a mirror afterwards and noticed that my hair had gained considerable volume and shine.
     
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    Ok so I got to hit with the PS95.

    This is a nice frame, but I prefer the Tec 315. It really fluttered a lot, and felt substantially softer than 62. Basically, it felt like the ball was being slingshotted back over the net even at a tension of 58#s.

    The Tec feels much more connected to the ball. More firm and the feel is better to me. I used very similar string tensions and setups too on both.

    All that aside, this sold me on grabbing an PS315. I definitely can see how 5 more RA on a pro staff could only be a good thing for me.

    The power level on the pro staff was fine. I should add that. I think it is just lacking pop. I was able to hit very deep and had no problem with spin.

    The pop on the tec is better even though the frame is not exactly stiff. The shape of the shot is a little more linear but still has good net clearance. The Pro staff has more net clearance and less sting.

    I agree with what Fed K was saying - it feels fluttery and doesn't really plow. All that aside, I'm till going to hit with it a bit more, since it definitely is a nice frame. Im just so in tune with the Tec that it will be tough to knock it off.

    Initial impressions are that if you want a soft pro staff with some pop and authority, buy a yonex tour G.
     
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    try moving some of your lead from 12 to 3/9.
     
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    3/9 isn't really for everyone though, for one I really prefer 12 o'clock lead, adds most swingweight and plow
     
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    lead at 12 increases the feel of pocketing and gives less pop as opposed to lead at 3/9 IMO, which is why I suggested this adjustment to PP in order to counter the attributes he disliked in his current setup.

    I like a combination of the two, as lead at 3/9 really helps with twistweight and pop which is great for volleying, whereas lead at 12 helps with topspin and plow on groundstrokes.
     
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    Ok ill try that out. I usually prefer lead at 12 but 3 and 9 can be great in some frames for me. The pure drive comes to mind.
     
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    http://youtu.be/kw5UWqpcsDs
     
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    Yep. Verified. Hopefully that solves it for anyone curious.

    Moving forward, I will place lead at 3 and 9 as it seems like this may be better for this frame. I don't think the SW needs to be super high, so focusing on lead at the top was a mistake. I could swing at very low speeds and just catch and throw the ball back over the net, which is nice, but thats not really how I play.

    I believe this a good frame if you like heavy sticks with a low SW. I am going more towards that route since I think high SWs are really only beneficial if you play big hitters almost exclusively. I'm going from mid 330s a year ago more towards maxxing out at mid 320s like with the tec.

    So this will be a nice frame to tweak specs on a little. Its never a bad thing to have a bro staff in the bag. Worse case, ill sling to one of you guys for cheap.

    Its just a really odd feeling the way it flexes to me. I will see if the new lead placement fixes that.
     

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