Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Power Player

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    Klem - nice. I know a guy with some arm issues who recently demoed the V1 Pro and bought it. He picked between that and Prince, and had been playing Prince since he was a kid.
     
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    The V1 Pro is a great racquet. Very similar to the Ai98, but with a more tip heavy feel/balance. It's also very muted and plush feeling.
     
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    All good stuff I'm hearing for the Volkl, encouraging. I should have searched this thread before ordering the demos, grip size feels bigger!? I remember hitting a volkl a while ago, 3/8's and it felt under 1/4!

    Oh well.

    *Delpo vid, awesome stuff. Saw him hitting up close last year at the citi open here in DC ( or whatever it's called now). Dude was ripping it. His coach/hitting partner (rather up there in age) seemed to be swinging a retail IG Radical. Just simply returning every flat-bulldozed ball DelPo was throwing at him.

    My wife mentioned at the time that she didn't like how he wasn't turning his body enough and using too much wrist on the forehand side. Alu strung tight in an 18x20, 6.1 is bad news, especially for someone returning from wrist surgery and has had surgery now on both wrists!

    EDIT:Oh man, murdering the ball in that Delpo Vid. Didn't realize I was watching Franco Davin (his coach) when I saw them up close. He's using less wrist on his forehands and turning more (dramatically more) than he was a year ago. He's always had good turn on his back-hand. If this guy gets healthy and back in ATP form, he's a giant killer (and there aren't that many left). He's still a young 26 yo too.
     
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  4. Power Player

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    Finally watched that Delpo vid. Man, he kills the ball.
     
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    You giving up on the Ai98 and PCT?
     
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    No, not at all. Still on the radar. Just want to test out some 100sq.in. frames before pulling the trigger.
     
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    Im finding this 2015 Pure Drive marketing move to control very interesting.

    Main reason is the control I get with the yonex is already there. I am a huge Pure Drive fan, but I believe this Yonex is the better frame. We were talking about this last night as one guy has a PDR and then we have the Xi. The Xi just lets you serve as big as you would with a Pure Drive and then lets you hit precise shots off short balls.

    Add the foam filled handle and no woofer grommets, plus the sweet spot is already higher and as large due to the frame shape, and I think you have the better choice in the Si/xi.
     
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    You'll probably move to the pure drive 2015 next ;)
     
  9. JGads

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    Alright, so I procured a demo of the Xi 98 and the new Head Speed Rev Pro. Have a doubles game tomorrow, figured I'd try a set with each if the first taste isn't an immediate no. The demos came with store-applied head tape and overgrips, which I wish the Yonex didn't have on it, as the base spec is nice for my arm as is. Though I'm not sure how much weight this head tape from 2-10 really adds. (?) Perhaps it's nothing to even worry about. Normally I'd remove these items but I see that they're on all of the demos, probably to protect from clay getting into the bumper (something I now see can be an issue with clay), and I don't want to be a **** and return a frame to them that's dirtied up and not like I got it. So I'll probably just leave the Yonnie as is. Bouncing the ball off the stringbed feels just fine, but we'll see if it's too firm for my taste in play tomorrow.

    The Head frame is the wild card. It's such a light starting point of a frame that I'm not sure whether to leave it completely as is to see if the much-lighter spec feels noticeably nicer on my arm, or whether I should get right to adding a bit of weight to make it somewhat reasonable to hit with it alongside the Xi and my Pro Staff 95. Tennis Mag's review of this frame said their frame came in at a spring-loaded 331 swing weight, which makes me wonder if I should add any lead to the hoop before starting, or perhaps I should just do something like put a leather grip and OG on it for a bit more of a HL balance while, of course, leaving on the head tape.

    These are the things one ponders when bored in Poland.
     
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    Gads, this is excellent work.
     
  11. JGads

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    It's what I do.
     
  12. klementine

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    Gads, did you get the xi98 vcore or the ezone xi98?

    On the head tape issue, had a friend a while back that used an MgRad, wrapped head tape around the hole hoop, and if my memory serves me right, it added ~ 16gr to the frame, which would be a substantial bump in SW as well.

    Yours are from 2-10, so possibly less than half of that but you still would get a substantial bump up in SW.

    A shame really, the frames are likely to play completely different than stock.
     
  13. JGads

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    VCore. And yeah, it stinks. Ninety nine percent sure I'll be a good lad and just leave it, but anyone know if the same head tape can be reapplied easily or is it obvious that it was off?
     
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    Gads the head tape should not add too much. I added lead at 12 to mine anyway because the SW was super low. Its still not that high, I'd be shocked if it was over 320, and it still plows the ball.
     
  15. JGads

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    OK, today's report from a dumb, gimpy Pole. In short, I really liked both of the sticks, PP's VCore Xi 98 as well as the great wild card, the new Speed Rev Pro. Please forgive the ramble that will now follow...


    VC Xi98: started with this one, playing it with an over grip and the aforementioned head tape, which looks to be pretty thick and widely cut so I do think it adds a few grams, but how much exactly I don't know (no access to any kind of scales so all specs are blind). As we waited for our fourth I played one-on-two for about 10 minutes and, right off the bat, to my surprise, I felt instantaneously ... comfortable. Comfortable with how the frame swung, and how the ball came off the stringbed. While definitely firmer than any of my usual go-to frames, this did not feel as unforgivingly frying-pan-ish as the original VCore 98 had felt to me long ago. There was a definite buzzing felt if I made contact near the edge, but as long as you caught the (very generous) sweet spot, all was fine and adequate.

    Power wise, the ball had a very nice little 'go' to it leaving this frame, but without being a rocket launcher in the slightest. No unpredictability, but still some pop. A very nice mix. Also, the trajectory again showed me that, if I were a Racquet God, I would put a 16/20 pattern into every single frame out there. I freaking love the trajectories of 16/20 patterns, end of story.

    Played a set and a half with this one and overall, just a solid, decent hit that was pretty much everything PP has described -- not the best feeling frame, but far from the worst, not jarring or hollow or soulless like certain Babs. And that stiffness of the frame here seemed to give me some more stability, for sure, than the Pro Staff 95 I've been swinging; I felt like I was more often getting away with balls I didn't meet just perfectly, wouldn't duff that off-center forehand or volley like I might have with my PS95. Some unnamed blue poly was in this demo, and if I owned this frame I would undoubtedly put an extremely soft poly into it at a low tension, or a hybrid. All in all, yep, this is actually a frame I could play with, and I see why PP does.

    Then, the new Speed Rev Pro. Completely did not know what to expect here and greatly feared that the frame switch to something lighter was going to be a disaster, that my timing would be horrendous, that I'd ruin life for my doubles partner. But, wow. Everything was fine. In fact, more than fine. I fell quickly in tune with this one, which, I should mention, I had modified slightly beforehand by swapping out the grip for leather and a thick over grip for added handle weight. Also, it had the same head tape thoroughly spread across from 2-10, so maybe we have 1-3 grams (?) extra up top, not exactly sure. ... In any event, this stick could be a real sleeper for those in the TT community who are into modding. My fears of being too quick on the draw with such a light stick were quickly put to rest; the frame, for whatever reason (the added length?), came through the hitting zone very cleanly. Rarely did I windshield-wipe the ball too much as I often do with lighter frames. Instead, this one really came through the zone as if it were beefier, and it also hit a much meatier ball compared to frames in the same weight class. I was returning heavy serves and grounds without much problem, but I also felt really helped today by the lightness of the stick in those quick doubles exchanges where you have to carve some weird sharp angle to win a point.

    Most of all, though, man, the 61 RA paired with the lighter static weight was like a pillow for my shoulder, and perhaps me liking this frame this much upon first hit -- and even, in the end, preferring it to the Yonex -- could be very specific to my situation: a) it felt simply superb for the still-weak shoulder, and b) as discussed, I just seem to get along so well with slightly extended frames, and here was another example, as this one is 27.4. Related to that -- and this was discussed in here recently by Tim and Jackcrawford -- the added length coupled with the lighter weight gave me far better serves today in my set and a half with this one than at any other point since surgery. The arm felt more free, and I was actually getting a little mustard on the ball, not just carving them into the box as I have been.

    Last thing: feel. This frame feels interesting, and I'm not even sure how to describe it. It's not a thick, rich, buttery feeling stick like a Prestige or a box beam Wilson, and in fact I might even say it feels a tad more on the hollow side - or 'modern', as it's becoming chic to say around TW - but it's a thoroughly comfortable and soft kind of 'modern', and definitely more comfy than the firmer Yonex. I also suspect that the more weight one adds to this, the more rich the feel will become, again making me think that customizers around here will slowly find and fancy this light little frame as time goes by.

    So, overall, a nice day with two new demos that I both rather enjoyed. Will try to hit once or twice more with both to kick the tires some more; may even get to hit again tomorrow.
     
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  16. SpinToWin

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    Awesome Gads! Here's another one modders will love:

    Dunlop R Sport:
    Head Size: 95 sq. inch
    Length: 27 inches
    Beam width: 22 mm
    Unstrung weight: 270g (275g according to the text?)
    Stiffness: 59 RA
    String Pattern: 16x18
    Price (from Dunlop): 119.90€

    I don't think I'll be able to say no to these beauties once they become available :)
     
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    Awesome stuff Gads. That Speed Rev pro sounds like the ultimate candidate for your modern version of Zeus.

    In fact, it may be perfect for you right now. Soft, xl, light, head grip shape...you may have stumbled upon something here.

    Hopefully you get more time with both. Like I said, I could holic forever, or just get better at tennis. The Yonex seems to let me focus on the latter. I just put polybreak mains in and OGSM crosses at 54#s. Will report on this hybrid. I believe it will awesome, as crisper strings compliment larger sweetspots in my experience.

    That being said, if you start leaning towards having an xi 98 in your bag, I can tell you the way to go would be Volkl V Torque or Cyclone Tour if you want a soft full poly bed. It's really really soft for a poly. Too soft for me, but considering your recovery it would make the xi98 feel a lot more gooey.

    How big is the sweet spot in comparison on the Head?
     
  18. klementine

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    Nice type up Gads, sorry for asking, might have missed it. Was the RevPro strung with a 16x19 or 16x16 pattern? If i'm not mistaken these are the new interchangeable grommet systems from head right?

    What a novel idea. Always wondered why prince never did that for the exo series. I'm sure they could've figured out a way to provide two distinct string patterns in one racquet with the simple change of some exo-ports.
     
  19. JGads

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    Oh nice.

    Yeah, honestly I left the courts having had such a positive last set and a half with that Rev Pro that it had me thinking, 'Right, perhaps I should have been swinging something this light - even lighter than the PS95 - all along.' It was almost as if it was the first time since coming back that I forgot about my shoulder entirely while playing, because everything was just easier, in particular serves and overheads, which I'd been doing a lot of flubbing of recently. If the next hit or two go as well, then yes, the Rev Pro will be my new rehab stick given all of the boxes it ticks for me personally (flex, weight, extended, Head). But: I may also have just had a really good hour of tennis with it in my hand, and the next two hours will be rubbish and everything will reverse. It's happened before. So, stay tuned.

    Re: the sweet spot, it felt huge. Both frames were equally splendid in that regard tonight, especially coming from a stock PS 95 where the sweet spot is much sweeter feeling - and more clearly defined - in terms of pure feel, but definitely smaller than these frames tonight. I definitely see what you mean, by the way, in saying that the Yonex is essentially a grab-and-go frame where there isn't too much to think about. Maybe a slight mod here or there, but it's basically ready to roll as is, no fuss, just play.


    16/19. I nearly grabbed the 16/16 demo by mistake initially, then noticed how wide open the spacing was and the lightbulb went off that this is that new dual-stringjob 'technology.' Thankfully they also had the other string job ready to go. Being that I'm so often an 18/20 man anyway, 16/19 is more than enough string space for me. I had some fun in the spin-frame craze with the Steam, really liked a lot about that frame, but ultimately don't think it helps my particular game/stroke. I wouldn't want any more spin than this 16/19 pattern gave me. It was ample, but the way the frame seemed to come through nice and evenly through the zone, it also wasn't spin overkill, either. Seemed just about right.
     
  20. Power Player

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    Yep. Your first paragraph about the yonex is exactly how I felt when I picked it up. That instant comfort where it is balanced just right.

    That hasn't really changed for me. Actually just gotten better. It's nice to play and not be totally exhausted afterwards.
     
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    As usual I fell for Powerplayer amazing selling pitch as might have others here :) and I gave xi98 a try...I am already a Yonex user (on and off barring any holic spells )as I own 4 x
    95d and 4x vcore97t which I like all in their own right... For whatever reason I never gave 98d a proper demo so now with xi here in 98d place I figure why not...

    Once again credit to pp as he really nailed it with this one...xi 98 really is exactly like he said and it simply gets out of the way and let's you play tennis...

    Clay is usually not my forte but I managed to beat 5.0 teaching pro as Xi 98 light weight and its supreme maneuverability allow me to think on the court instead of thinking about the racket.
    With vcore97t and 95d I can have a great set but after 3 sets I am aware of the racquet weight and that's not good if you should be aware of other things on the court.

    Anyhow PP did it again and discovered another gem I would probably not even try if it was not for his great review
     
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    I also owned new ai 98 and have to say that for those that were put off by ai98 flex should give xi a try
     
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    Goran, glad you are digging the frame. It really is a great one.

    Let me know if you want to hit on the clay. Issue for me is the next two weeks are huge at my job so I can't enter the tournament or play during the day. I'm not happy about it because I had planned on entering, but I have some pending business that has to come over tennis. :(
     
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    The 98d is the same as the Xi98 and I agree, it just gets out of the way and lets you play. Funny thing is that the 98d led me back to the Ai98, which I am really loving right now. The 98d let me get used to the headsize and also the extra weight and now the Ai98 feels very usable and comfortable for me.

    I agree Gads...the 16x20 pattern on the 98's is great for a lower trajectory, control and is great for a driving backhand slice. But I think I prefer the softer feel of the Ai98. Makes my touch shots easier and it's one of the best volleying racquets I have ever used. I am holding onto my (2) 98d's for now and I also have a pair of Ai98's. For now, I'm going with the Ai98 and seeing where it takes me.
     
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    Hit again this morning with the coach, so all singles-type of hitting rather than doubles, much more my kind of rhythm.

    Again thoroughly enjoyed what both frames offered, and on this day, the Yonex was just awesome on the ground. Fell further into a sweet groove on both wings, the frame totally "getting out of the way," as described. Spectacular on the two-handed backhand; I was reminded that Yonexes are usually always so solid on this shot, maybe for me because the long handle accommodates a two-handed grip comfortably, while the 16/20 pattern and the generous, tall sweet spot via the shape just seems to allow for easy cross-court carving of the ball on the backhand. Stringbed more 'honest' than the Head in terms of feeling less trampoline-y, more what I'm used to. All in all I found myself thinking, wow, this really could work. But then: when serving, I felt a real twinge of something I've never before experienced, golfer's elbow. I've had tennis elbow before, but never golfer's (pain on the inside of the elbow vs the outside forearm area).

    When I then switched to the Head, it seemed to feel much better, though still now it's a bit sore and I'm bummed that this twinge kind of left an otherwise fantastic morning hit with both frames with a bit of a bad taste there at the end.

    For those with golfer's elbow experience, is it more of a frame stiffness issue or more of a technique issue? I can't say, for instance, if the golfer's elbow hadn't arrived if I'd have just have been swinging the Head.

    In sum, whereas yesterday the Head was out front for me, after today's hit I'd rank these sticks as being basically dead even in terms of which I'd prefer to add to the bag, though the Head is possibly still edging the other simply due to the arm comfort issue, especially now on serve. However, in terms of just plain hitting, though, the Yonnie really impressed me today, more so than yesterday.
     
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    For me, golfer's elbow has more to do with stiffness. If I play light, fairly stiff frames with full poly, my elbow lets me know. If the pain doesn't stop, stick with soft setups Gads, golfer's elbow is a never-ending nightmare.
     
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    In addition to regular backhands, I hit some ridiculous slices with the Yonnie today. ... From what I remember of the Ai98, I actually prefer the feel of this one to that, I think. The Ai is softer, but also a bit more hollow feeling. The Xi is undoubtedly more rigid, but not hollow feeling. I also just prefer the stringbed feel of the Xi; I remember the Ai98 as being a touch more hot-spotty where I'd be surprised by the spring that would cause an occasional, surprise sailer. But upon further review it would be interesting to hit these two sticks side by side in a single day.
     
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    Ugh. Bummer.
     
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    nice reviews. house repair/upgrade/paint has kept me busy for a while now so might get to hit regularly again next year. :)
     
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    Gadsby,

    It could also be that you're not fully extending your arm and thus, not pronating your wrist during serves, compensating with the elbow, due to fear of re-injury.

    I experienced this as well when returning to tennis in the first year after surgery. It's the gremlin in your ear.

    That being said, the only frame to ever give a case of the 'bow, was the Vcore 100s. The sweetest 11oz.,100sq.in. frame I ever hit, but.......

    Anyhoot, stretch, stretch, and stretch some more, limit your serves and up that number every month or so. I even went the route of Chang'nVsLendl'n some sprayers for some matches when on the comeback trail.
     
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    Roger that, all of it. Can definitely see the possibility that I did just what you were talking about in the first graf.
     
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    In other news, this thread has reached 1000 pages. A toast to RossK, wherever he may be.
     
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    Cheers to that.
     
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    Cheers Ross!

    I posted on the first page, but have never succumbed to the temptations within. Back then I was playing with a TGK 238.1... in 2012 I switched to the Prince EXO3 Tour 100 for a year, then back to the TGKs since then. I've steadily decreased the weight, but that has been the only change.

    Very apt then that as this thread hits 1000 pages, I am actually mid-demo with the Ai 98. My last hit with it will be tomorrow, but I haven't really connected. I think I'm coming to the conclusion that I like a more classic feel, but want something that gives me a little more help than what I currently have. I wanted to try the 6.1 95S, but couldn't get hold of a demo as the line is being discontinued. I'm going to buy one regardless, in homage to Ross. :D
     
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    ^The 238.1 is a beauty.
     
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    ^ The racquet is a beauty, my game is a little ugly. ;-)

    I think it has spoilt me, tbh. I'm sure one of the reasons I find it hard to connect with modern frames is because I'm used to the solidity. The issue I've had is that as I've removed weight to increase racquet head speed (and to be able to play for several days on the bounce without my arm feeling like it's going to fall off), I've lost the easy power when defending. I need something that just gives me a little more help... and hopefully a little higher trajectory over the net. The 6.1 95S looks like it could tick many boxes for me. I'm sure it was discussed in depth several pages back!
     
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    I disagree with this 100%. I had GE and it was from technique. Mainly arming the ball on serve and not using a loose arm.

    Also I cured GE with the rubber bar I got from Jackb1. Its very worth the money just to have around in case of any flare ups.

    Gads you may want to ease into the xi98, since it may take a bit to get your serve back to it's old form.
     
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    There is no one answer to such a question IMO. Anyways, I advise caution. Better safe than sorry.

    By the way, I also have that bar, it really helps.
     
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    Well that is fine, but before you said it was due to stiffness. I do not believe that is the case, as I don't have the healthiest wrist/arm out there and the xi98 is not giving me any problems.

    I do think it is a frame that can cause some pain if the technique is forced or off, so Gads just has to ease back in. I can imagine his serve is not going to be close to what it was just yet as a shoulder injury is just not going to be something to come back from easily and retain a prior serve motion. The good news is that once he starts getting it going again, the xi98 is absolutely incredible on serve, and in all honesty, it was the first characteristic that sold me on the racquet. It took me a little while to get my timing off the ground with the frame, but the balance is so perfect that once it clicked it felt effortless.
     
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    I said "for me" in the beginning as that is my own experience ;)

    The racquet sounds interesting, but for me the Pro Staff 95 modded up has decent power, so I think the Xi would be too powerful for my game without full poly and I do not intend to touch full poly string jobs anytime soon after I've recovered from my most recent elbow problems. Glad to hear you're digging it so much though :)
     
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    You will be fine..I don't think its the frame. Trust me, I'll drop a frame in a new york minute if it is causing me pain. That is why I never could stay with a Babolat.
     
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    You don't need full poly with this frame. I mean, you can use it but I use a hybrid and it's absolutely awesome. Low tension full poly is definitely nice as well.

    If you hit super flat than this frame may be too powerful, but its not a launcher. Compared to my leaded up PS95, it is just a lot less effort for the same result. The PS95 has the insane laser pointer control but the yonex does not wander too far from that path to where I miss it.

    Honestly, I feel kind of foolish not using the frame before when it was right in front of my face the entire time (coach using it). It is the ultimate racket for someone who appreciates what a Babolat can do, but hates the hollow feel, and wants a little more control and solidity.
     
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    IMO, there is no one answer or cause to TE or GE. I can be one thing for one person, one for another or can be a combination of things. Bad technique alone can do it regardless of equipment, but bad equipment will amplify bad technique and vice versa.
     
  44. JGads

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    Played some singles today. Happy to report that after two days of stretching and massaging it, and wearing one of those long Nike wristbands over the elbow for compression, and reminding myself to absolutely keep the arm loose on the service motion, that the golfer's elbow did not seem to be a problem today, almost entirely seemed to pass. I think I just aggravated it with a specific something that I was doing on that particular night. The bad news is that, otherwise, I played like garbage today. Frame didn't matter. Although:

    I am now leaning away from the Head Rev Pro. I think I just had a honeymoon of an hour with it that first night, and especially because the frame worked particularly well in those more crafty doubles exchanges. The consecutive singles hits that followed have subsequently revealed a certain lack of punch when in singles and under heavier fire. In these circumstances, I've just left too many short balls out there for the ripping, not enough ammo in the stick to help me out in defensive situations. And, while completely comfortable on the arm, the feel of the stringed does leave something to be desired. There's that slight trampoline-y effect in how the ball comes off of the bed that I usually don't care for. So, if I want a frame to just be comfy and not altogether punchy, I'd probably just stick with the PS95 instead because of the sensational feel.

    The Yonex was by comparison more solid again, but I feel like I need one more day with it to know for sure if I want to add it to the bag or not. I definitely do wish it were a bit more flexy, although I can't argue with the positives of pop, stringbed honesty and surprising stability for its weight that comes along with that firmness.

    Not sure what I'll do. If it was a normal demo situation I might hold off on doing anything just yet, but in this case the daily demo fee I've been paying to keep the frames this week would instead be applied toward a purchase if I decided to buy, so that, coupled with the Xi being reasonably priced to begin with, makes it tempting to possibly add another Polish souvenir. It is, after all, the color of the flag.

    We'll see.
     
  45. Power Player

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    Nice Gads. I think the Xi should be dropping price over in the states pretty soon as it appears Yonex will be pushing their new Sony Tech that can be installed in the new SI.

    So my point - you have plenty of time to decide on buying this frame and saving some $$$ if you decide to eat the cost of the demo fee.

    Also, just thought about a full poly setup that would goat in this frame if you are still planning on going that stringing route -
    Tour Bite Soft at 48ish pounds.

    This frame is ideal with a soft poly that still has a little crispness to it so the large sweetspot is defined. I think TBS is a nice fit for that. I am leaning towards Cyclone Tour after trying that, VTorque and Polybreak. Polybreak is not soft enough, and too boardy, Torque is maybe too soft, and Cyclone Tour is just right.

    I would rank it - Cyclone Tour - VTorque then Polybreak.

    I am still very intrigued with the feel of V torque. It is really soft and the pocketing is fantastic. I have plenty of Cyclone Tour and Torque left to figure it out over time.
     
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  46. JGads

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    That's kind of what I was thinking. If I wait I can ultimately get a good deal on the Xi back Stateside as well, especially on a used one. I also have to admit that the experience with this frame has me even more intrigued to one day demo that Xi 98 Team Plus. A touch softer RA, extended length which would help my serve, and the starting specs look like I'd just need to put a bit of weight on the handle and, if necessary, a touch of lead up top and I'd have a low 11 oz extended stick with an enormously generous sweet spot given the added benefit of the Yonex head shape. Bummed they don't seem to have that stick here in Europe.
     
  47. Power Player

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    Yes that may be a tough frame to find outside of sites such as this one.

    But yes, I agree that sounds like a nice demo for you. May as well give it a go. It's crazy how I had sworn off the stiff frames, but this thing has brought me back in, and I have not had any discomfort at all. After my 95 D experience, I am really impressed. I actually prefer this to the 95D, its just easier to use and feels a lot more comfortable. I hated selling the 95D.
     
  48. klementine

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    So apparently, everyone from Sweden is as nice as they get, at least everyone I've ever met.

    New guy showed up to the session tonight, a Swede with that T-dub, Mark Boone take back thing going, really unconventional player.... but he did not miss.

    We talked Edberg, Borg, Wilander, and the 'could have been'.. Soderling.

    Then the box of 100sq.in demos.

    You could have blindfolded me out there and it would hard to tell the difference. My serve was fantastic tonight, not one double fault, and numerous aces, just kept the toss simple, arm loose and legs moving, didn't overthink it. Missed some crazy easy volleys at net. Groundstrokes were better, made some errors, hit some winners and overall more consistent.

    6th outing in the past 3 weeks, getting my legs and mind back.

    The Volkl, have pretty much liked every Volkl frame I've hit, including this one. The prince 100 Pro esp something or other, can't gel with uber-open patterns, but this one had some nice touch as well. Prefer the IG Extreme Pro over the Graphene version, and the ai100 was softer than expected, packed a nice punch on the back-hand, was just kind-of numb on drop shots and at net, but really nitpicking here.

    Then I picked up the coach's POG 100 for a hit.

    What a fun, fun frame. In fact, f*** it, I'll probably just go with this one. It's just fun. The more court time I get, the less the frame matters and the POG 100 just did everything really well for me, some things fantastic, had a really nice, forgiving feel and was, again, fun to play with.
     
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    Not sure what Ross is up to these days. He was/is a member of a closed FB group of which I am a member. He used to post a lot but not anymore. Hope he's still playing somewhere. Salute to him for starting off this monster thread.
     
  50. JGads

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    Awesome night, sounds like.

    Pog 100. Can never go wrong with a classic.

    And perhaps growing ever stronger, much like the vaunted PPE (Power Player Effect), we now have the JGWTCHE (Just Grab What The Coach Hits Effect). It's how PP discovered the VXi98, Klem the Pog, and a long time ago, how I was introduced to the Pure Storm Team.

    My coach here in Poland goats some old Radical model, Liquidmetal or something.
     

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