Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. spinovic

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    I have never like the 18x20 pattern as well. I'm sure there are some good ones that would be worth trying, but I can't afford to try them all. Maybe after I am satisfied with my open pattern adventures, I can delve into some 18x19/20 sticks.

    There haven't been many racquets I haven't liked in the 95+ head size. IG Prestige Pro was probably my least favorite to date.

    People always reference the unique feel of the Tour 100. If I can adjust to that, I expect I will like it. It can't hurt to have the arm-friendliest racquet on the market in my bag.

    Now, I just need to decide what to string them with.

    I'm thinking full poly to start with the Six.One and the Tour 100. Will probably go with a multi in the Dynacore...
     
  2. GL44

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    As far as 18x20 sticks go, the only two I've really liked are the Graphene Speed Pro and the Graphene Prestige MP, the latter I plan on demoing again. Didn't like the string that it came strung with the first time. Some white poly... wasn't a fan so I didn't even ask what it was. Although admittedly I haven't tried too many dense pattern sticks.

    As far as the Tour 100 goes, I tried Prince Beast and Tour XC, and liked them both. I plan on demoing it again, too. Just got done with it, but Yoko had just recently won me over, so I feel like I didn't give it a proper chance. I just started hitting Sonic Pro Edge, and really like it so I'd like to give it a whirl in the Prince.
     
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    HEAD Hawk, perhaps was your demo string. I've tried it once and it was OK. Nothing special to me. I actually like regular Sonic Pro, although it doesn't seem like many do. I've got a set of Edge, but haven't tried it yet.

    Right now, I'm thinking...

    Dynacore 315 - Genesis Thunder Blast, Prince Premier Attack, or Discho Microfibre (56-58 lbs)

    Tour 100 (16x18 ) - Gamma Moto, Volkl Cyclone, or Pro Supex Black Fusion (58 lbs)

    Six.One 95S - Tourna Big Hitter Black 7, Genesis Spin X or Black Magic (53-55 lbs)

    Just guessing. I figure something similar to what I use in the Ltd will work in the Dynacore. If the Prince is as soft as advertised, a poly at mid to high tension should be fine. And, figure I will try something in the low-mid range for the Six.One. I want to use strings that I have extra sets of, or ones that I won't care as much about cutting them out if I don't like the first time around. I don't want to waste any of my pricier strings while I am trying to get a feel for what will work best for me in each frame.

    I also considered trying shaped/round poly/poly hybrid in the Prince and Wilson. I could take one of my shaped strings and pair with Red Code or O-Power. Should be enough to do both frames, but I will probably wait until I get a better feel for what tension I like in each one.

    I'm definitely open to any suggestions from my 'Holic friends on setups for the Tour 100 and 6.1 95S. I feel like I know what to expect from the TFight having played extensively with the 320 and my current racquet of choice.
     
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    It probably was Head Hawk. The problem I see is that it is strung too tightly in demos, especially in the Prestige MP, where full poly should be strung low.
     
  5. GL44

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    I would highly recommend giving SPE a try. One of my favorite strings right now, especially in a soft frame.

    I've yet to try Moto, but very much want to as I've heard nothing but good things about it. Same goes for Thunder Blast. I have a set that I'm anxiously waiting to string up.

    I like to string at fairly high tensions, anyway, which is one reason I really like the Tour 100. A poly strung high is a great fit for that racquet, IMO.
     
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    Yeah, pretty sure it was Hawk. If I can recall from a previous post, you're a fan of that string, huh Spin?

    Denser patterns call for lower tensions, in your opinion?
     
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    They do in my books for sure. In my case I usually do:

    65-70lbs in 16x15
    55-65 in 16x19
    30-50 in 18x20

    -Fuji
     
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    Interesting chart there, Fuji. I definitely agree with the first two, so I'm gonna have to give lower tensions a try in the GPMP.
     
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    Solid string for high level players. Gives what you put in and really lets you go for it.
     
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    Sixty degrees, sunshine, Court 11 at the National Tennis Center with Arthur Ashe Stadium in the background. Priceless.
     
  11. Fuji

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    Definitely. It really depends on the string too. I'm a huge lover of Tour Bite (regular) in the 30s. Plays ridiculously well, especially in a closed pattern. Softer poly and string though I definitely float closer to that 50 range. If I'm using multi/syngut/soft poly it's in that 46-50.

    -Fuji
     
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    For anyone that's ever been on the Tour Bite train, I've been trying out some Diamond Rough 16 as both a main and a cross in a couple different sticks, and it's excellent so far. Grippy and spinny and crisp but not overkill in any of those departments. Very nice string.
     
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    Glad to hear more reviews of it! I've only seen a couple people that have tried it, but it has all been positive. How's the comfort on it? Comparable more to TB or to TBS?

    -Fuji
     
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    Seems almost directly in between those two, which for me is great.
     
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    I can't even imagine what it feels like in the 30's. I've never strung lower than 53. It seems like it would just be absolute spongy rocket launcher.
     
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    Are you not a full poly guy? How do you think a full bed would play?
     
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    I think a full bed of it could be fantastic if you like a crisper, lively stringbed; I've just been playing hybrids lately in favor of my shoulder, but I may try this string in a full bed down the road. The feel for me so far is pretty great -- it's not as 'numb' feeling as Tour Bite Soft, and not quite as stiff and overly grabby that regular Tour Bite can sometimes be like. So far, nothing but good things to say about this string. Please update if you or anyone else ends up trying it in a full bed.
     
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    For me, at least, the poly has to be really stiff to go in the 30s. I like tour bite, hawk, 4G, etc. Just those ones that snapback hard and are stiff. Hate soft poly low though. I tried BHBR @ 38 and it was garbage. No feel and it was very unpredictable.

    Again, depends on the string pattern though, and head size to an extent.

    -Fuji
     
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    I just started hitting Head Sonic Pro Edge, and am definitely diggin' it. Sounds like Diamond Rough might be pretty similar. Will definitely have to give it a try. Have you hit SPE, JGads?
     
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    A long time ago. And if memory serves, I liked it at the start but it went quickly downhill, like the first hit was great and then the string got too sloppy too quickly thereafter.
     
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    Hmmm... interesting. I haven't gotten that yet, but thanks for the heads up on the Diamond Rough.
     
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    It could have easily been me that was too sloppy, rather than the string. I just remember knowing fairly quickly it wasn't going to be for me, and cutting it out, so didn't give it a big run.
     
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    Just out of curiousity, do you remember what frame you were using?
     
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    Live to Tfight another day

    Let us quote a passage from the Book of Ross, Page 885:

    That was then.......

    Enter Gads, the handsome traveler, responsible for more cardiac arrests between his maad city and Warsaw than a greasy oscypek sandwich. Being generous of heart, Gads sold me his pair of pristine 16X19 Tfights, thus allowing my dreams of open patterned Radicals to finally be fulfilled.

    Upon their arrival, the standard length, non augmented Tfight was selected and laced up with some good ol' NXT 17 at 60lbs. This particular specimen had been setup according the the ancient teachings of PP, whom, legend tells, had first baptized a naked and incomplete Yoko by removing her leather grip and adding 5 grams of lead to her forehead, thus creating balance and harmony in the universe.

    The Tfight was taken to the NTC, site of the Rogers cup, where all the greats gather once a year to do battle, and was given a two hour trial by fire. So did the Tfights live up to expectations? It seemed like an impossible task. After all, they weren't just up against an ocean of faceless sticks, they were up against the specters of their 18X20 brethren, freshly cast away from home for having venomously bitten the elbow that feeds.

    ............. to be continued
     
  25. JGads

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    Not 100 percent, but I believe it might have been the 315 Ltd back when I had both a 16m and an 18m and was trying various setups in a schizophrenic fashion. And speaking of which...

    Oh dear god yes.
     
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    Lol, I could read this all day.
     
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    Whatever happened to Ross K?
     
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    He got a life....
     
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    Got my new sticks today - to my good fortune, the 95S came strung with a set of ALU Power Spin. Very minor notching...I'm pretty sure it is relatively new.

    The Tour 100 is strung with some black poly, not sure what it is, but it reminds me of BHB7.

    I'm going to keep the Luxilon for now. I'll probably re-string the Prince soon. Haven't decided on what to string the Dynacore with...
     
  31. el sergento

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    St ring the dynacore with what you use on Yoko for a more direct comparison.
     
  32. spinovic

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    Gut...Not on the first try.:)

    Seriously, I did, more or less, by stringing it with Prince Premier Attack @ 57lbs. I usually had my TFights strung w/a good multi or gut in the mid to high 50s. I figured a $7 discontinued multi that most people liked would be a good one to start with to 1) figure out the stringing pattern and 2) get a feel for where I would like to go from there.

    It was raining today, so I haven't been able to do anything more than bounce balls off the wall. I swear it rains every time I get new racquets in the mail.

    FYI - here's the specs I measured on the TFight...

    Unstrung = 11.0 oz (314 g), 12 pts HL
    Strung = 11.6 oz (329 g), 9 pts HL

    Haven't put an OG on yet. This thing is going to have more wiggle room to customize than the Ltds, if that is necessary. I prefer the graphics on the Ltd, but I like the matte finish on the Dynacore better than the glossy one. I wish I could combine the two.
     
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    One other observation - as expected, the Dynacore 315 has the more 'open' 16x19 pattern, like the 320 vs the Ltd which has a little tighter string spacing, particularly in the middle of the string bed.
     
  34. JGads

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    Serge, what gives? Where's the continuation to the Yoko story? Did she break up the band, sing out of tune, what?
     
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    Any prestige mid users around? Just realized I have 10 of them kicking around and wouldn't mind stringing them up and bringing them up to spec. Any recommendations for string? I'm feeling a vintage marat, with some tight slick poly maybe?

    -Fuji
     
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    Based on my experiences in Graphenia, albeit with the MP, I feel like PP's gut/poly combo seems to fit Prestige stringbeds like a glove. Can only imagine how ridiculous the feel would be in a mid.
     
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    I'm rocking Tour Bite at 35 lbs in my Prestige Mid
     
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    That was my Racket back in the day, currently using the Yonex 89t which to me plays very similar but a little easier. When I'm not injured I was stringing with black widow 17 mains and prince synth gut cross both at 57lbs, excellent consistent playability. I think i'd go to 54 or 55 with a prestige due to the tighter string pattern.
     
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    The two most demanding racquets I ever tried...IG Prestige Mid and VCORE Tour 89.:)

    The VCORE felt clunky and sluggish to me. The IGPM had a great feel and was surprisingly nimble for its weight, but it was too difficult for me to do anything more than just get the ball back over the net - spin did not come easy, nor did depth and pace. The VCORE packed a little more oomph, but I'm not good enough to use it.

    You guys have my respect for using sticks of that caliber.
     
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    Last night I dreamt of strange and magical things...

    ...of a parallel drilled universe, where I met a man named Morpheus who gave me a Tour Prepared elixir that sent me down through the EXO3 rabbit port-hole and opened my eyes to the Graphite Basalt Matrix. This matrix was a world in which Dynacores were not extinct, but rather alive and well. Red and black and terrifying Dynacores, with armored heads and red eyelets. Then, I heard a distant rumbling of thunder in the background and I was frozen with fear. You know how it can be with dreams sometimes, you want to move, to run, but your body simply will not respond. That was me. And, the thunder grew louder and closer and...

    ...I awoke in a cold sweat to the sound of my sick daughter coughing up a lung.
     
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    Dear racketaholic diary,

    Today I once again find myself demoing different racquets. I can't get enough of the great marketing companies do for their racquets. I thought I would love and keep both of my Wilson K-factor 104 non amplifeel customized with leather grips and matched weight, but I was wrong. I am now thinking about going back to Yonex (don't have a good explanation) or giving Babolat a fair try.

    The Yonex racquets that I am interested in are:

    -Yonex EZone Ai98 and the VCore 97 310 (before they're gone).

    The Babolat racquets are:

    -2015 Pure Drive Tour and the 2013 APD (finally).

    I don't know which one will have my pick, but I assure you that one will be in my possession no later than April 26, 2015.
     
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    Good stuff. One of these days I'll try a Pure Drive or an AeroPro Drive (finally, to borrow from your post) - I was mere seconds away from clicking the button to order a PD, but fate intervened and alas, it has been put on hold once again.

    Shirley, I'll try one the next time I binge 'holic.:)
     
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    sorry about your daughter, but great stuff! well done :)
     
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    I was going to do the write up last night but my freakin cat got sick, and I spent a huge chunk of my evening at the cat hospital. No worries though, she's fine.

    Ok. So Yoko, is her legend warranted. Well, it didn't start out well.

    I had gone into the playtest without switching out the pallets to the TK82s' I had ordered, and I knew the Head shaped handle was going to take some adjusting to, and sure enough, it was a very rough beginning:

    First forehand - into the net
    Second forehand - into the net
    3, 4, 5 etc, and so forth - into the net

    By about the 15th forehand I knew I had to adjust something or I was going to loose it, so I started hitting a bit further ahead of me, suddenly, there it was, I was finally getting some elevation on that forehand and some pretty amazing top.

    I don't know why, maybe it was the excitement of being with another Tfight after so many years with the same tight stringed hussy that made me work so hard to score, but I played amazing. Honestly, I had no business playing so well, especially after 2 months off, and being a good 10-15 lbs overweight :(

    What stood out the most for me was the topspin on my forehand, even with a full bed of multi. A combination of the handle shape, that I didn't hate as much as I'd thought, improved shoulder flexibility, thanks to the physio, and of course the more open pattern allowed me to get insane angles and heft on my forehands.

    Without even noticing or doing it on purpose, I finished a couple of forehands on the run in a Nadalian bullwhip motion, all for winners. It was glorious, and my opponent, a steady, solid 4.5 that's also on my league team was begging to try it out.

    Feel:

    Crisp, much crisper than the 52 RA it's listed at (I actually think that's a mistake), but still not jarring at all. I really liked the feel, and I have to say that a multi feels fantastic in this, full gut must be orgasmic. I'd say it's like a slightly softer YTK PPro, just as crisp but with a better response and a much, much bigger sweetspot.

    Oh, and the droppers ! OMG, the droppers. Amazing feel. I have to give credit to the NXT 17 here as well, but, the control and backspin were phenomenal. Cat and mouse is definitely an option with this stick.

    Groundies:

    Amazing. Forehands were hard, heavy and quite deep. Backhand slice is a thing of beauty, both offensive and defensive. My drive backhand took a while, but that was mainly due to rust, not the racquet. The slice was so good in fact that I didn't hit a topspin backhand for the first 30 minutes or so.

    Volleys:

    Coming from an EXO3 Tour that volleys like a wet fart, anything was going to be better, but the Tfight made me look much better than I am up there, just like the 18X20 did. It didn't just volley well, but it somehow begged me to come in. For some reason, I instinctively started following in my shots and getting excellent results at net. At net, Yoko is super maneuverable, crisp with a fantastic feel and enough mass and rigidity to really punch at the volley.

    Serves / Overheads:

    Didn't hit any serves because the shoulder is still rehabbing, but I did have to put a couple of overheads away at the net and the Tfight acquitted herself with flying colors, I think I was like 4/4 up there, which is much better than my usual batting average.

    Overall, I'm super pumped about this frame. I'm honeymooning hard, of course, but I'm familiar enough with it, having played with the 18X20, to know that my gut had been right the whole time, and that the open pattern was what my game needed.

    It really is an open patterned Radical, just like I had fantasized about. It's like an MG Rad, with a bit more natural FY power, all the while keeping the same godly feel, if slightly crisper, and control.

    Possible mods / setups:

    I think it's pretty darn good as it is with the synthetic grip and the 5 grams at the hoop. I'm thinking of adding a touch more weight to the handle to bring the balance closer to 7pts, now it feels closer to 5.

    I'll probably end up with the same specs I had my 18X20's at and add 5-10 g's to the handle. My one hander really likes 7-10 pts hl as a balance.

    Strings. Multi feels and plays amazing and gave me so much spin that I have no desire to put in a poly. 60#'s is great, but, once I really get some time with the stick I'm sure I can take it down to 52-55#'s due to the amazing control.

    I didn't have a chance to play with the extended one, but my gut feeling is that it'll get shortened down.

    Anyway, Gadsy, you're my hero for having sold me these puppies, and there will forever be a warm tennis court and cold beer for you in Montreal.

    In closing:

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    What they don't tell you about having children, is that their primary purpose in life, and greatest ability, is to awaken you from the most amazing dreams. Always, and without skipping a beat, they'll find a way to tear you from the deepest of slumbers, in the middle of a profound dream, just before some important, and life altering revel.............. SNAP!
     
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    Thanks Jacks...it's just a cold/congestion, but it rears its ugly head at night. Poor little thing.

    I'm not on par with Gads and some of the other Shakespearian writers on here, but I get a kick out of their stuff. Thought I'd give it a shot.
     
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    Hospital!? Well what is it?

    It's a big building with lots of patients in it, but that's not important right now.:)
     
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    For a while they deprive you of sleep completely. Then, it's as if they say, "This is no fun anymore. Let's let him actually go to sleep, and just keep waking him up all night."

    They have many weapons at their disposal...

    A snot fueled cough. A well placed kick or a spinning backfist to the nose. A bad dream. I need to pee.:)

    Nice review of the Ltd 16Main. I would agree with much of what you said. It has a great balance of directional control and access to spin. And, the feel is hard to describe - it is solid and stable with just the perfect touch of give. Gives it a very unique, plush feel in my experience.
     
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