Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. Ross C

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    Hey Ross, had wonderd what had happened in your YTPP world... I did go down the YTPP road, strung it with X-One 17 @ 57...and all was good in the world.....

    ....except now I find for the first time I have a sore arm/shoulder - not something I ever had with the PST, and on the one occasion when testing the BLX 6.1 95 and YTPP put it down to the former. And although not bad it doesn't seem to be subsiding. So is it the YTPP frame? Anyone got any thoughts on this?

    Re the APD GT - I tried that and just couldn't get used to the lack of feel and lack of weight etc - no doubt it was effective as a b-line stick but just didn't really enjoy playing it (same way I feel about the PDRs reallly, but less club-like).

    So where do I go now? don't want to drop the YTPP, but don't want this arm/shoulder thing to carry on either....
     
  2. shaysrebelII

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    Howdy Ross! I also use the open pattern on the n95. I only demoed the BLX95 (also the open pattern) for a short time, and although I liked it better than the k95, I didn't find it to be up to snuff with the ncode. This might be due to the string (Hollow Core Pro - not my favorite) so maybe I'll give it another shot someday, but it is most definitely on the back burner for now. That "x factor" you spoke of is why the n95 has such a cult following around these boards...so much more than the sum of its parts, so "lethal" to borrow your term for it.

    The distinction between an all court frame vs. a baseline frame is interesting, and it might help to explain why I've had a lack of success with the n95 lately. I have an all court game when I play competitively, but the vast majority of the time I'm just doing informal rallying, which my KBT is better suited to, IMO.

    I've never compared the Prestige Mid to the AG100, but it sounds interesting. Head racquets and I don't get along too well (I'm one of the whiny dudes who complains incessantly about the grip shape :oops: ) but I'd certainly be willing to test it out. The only Prestige Mid I've hit with is the Microgel iteration, and tbh I hardly remember how I did with it. I feel like the AG100 is a "vacation" frame for me; whenever I feel like I'm in a rut with my frame of choice, I can go back to it, have some good ol' fashioned rallying fun, and then go back to whatever else I was using. The excellent thread dedicated to the AG100 prompted me to try out lead tape, which was not a good decision, and caused me to shelve the AG100 for months. Now that it's back to its stock form (except for a leather grip & overgrip) it's back to being its beastly self! :)
     
  3. mawashi

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    You comments of why sometimes you love a stick and other times find it so difficult to use it is a very interesting point.

    I've been experiencing that same issue and it was only after my recent experiments with strings that I think I've found the answer... strings.

    I'm extremely string sensitive and cus I hit rather hard I tend to kill strings very, very fast.

    When I hit with a freshly strung stick, every shot is as good as it gets. 20 mins later, I start spraying balls... Change to another freshly strung stick, accuracy returns.

    For myself the realization that my playing style is so dependent on feel has really forced me to adapt to a different playing style that more percentage based.

    mawashi
     
  4. dgoran

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    Hi Ross

    Got your email btw just wanted to suggest that you give yt radical MP a try since I swear its like lighter easier to use modern whippy PT.

    The demo I tried today was off my specs (I mean balance, weight, everything) but the feel was very nice. Try it.

    As a plus it comes very light so you can mo(l)d it to your perfection.

    -G
     
  5. Power Player

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    Ross,

    If you like the APD for making the game easier with it's baseline power and spin, but could use more touch at the net, smaller headsize, a little more flex and a hair more control, than you may want to try the Tfight 320. That would be the main reasons I would even consider it if I was you. If not, than ride it out with the APD.

    Apparently, they made a new 320..basically the same frame with some improvements in power (!) and an updated PJ. Yes, I am going to get one.
     
  6. Ross K

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    mawashi,

    Interesting observation... and while we are it, any string recs for the YT PP for maximum power/topspin?... Good to hear from you again.... btw M, what you hitting with as your primary rack now?


    Goran,

    RE YT Rad MP, how is it for stability and spin? I imagined it was a bit shabby in these regards - but am I totally wrong? If so... hmmm... (Oh no!)... you think this is maybe one I've over-looked and should consider? Reckon I'll be checking out some threads on this rack NOW... "Shakes head.":)


    PP,

    Yes, in theory the TF 320's (VO2 and older TFights) should be perfect for me... previous outings (I've checked out a few diff versions over the years) has shown this hasn't quite been the case, but... let's say if a chance arises to test 1 out, or trade for or buy at a reasonable price, I'd be keen.


    One and all,

    I'm not playing for a few days now... shall continue to ponder the discrepancy between the frames I love, especially re a frame's balance and weighting, feel, way of swinging, quality build, etc (like PT630, Prestige mid, C10 Pro, etc) and the frames that I seem to play best with (APD, N95, PD+ some years back, etc)...

    Happy hitting fellow racket obsessives!


    R.
     
  7. mawashi

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    Sorry my friend, I can only recommend strings that I have used in other sticks not the ytpp as I only modded up roundisee's stick n only hit a bit with it with the dead syn gut strings in it.

    However, with my lm rad mp in a 18x20 n my other speeds, I have been experimenting with these strings.

    1. Full control and great spin... MSV Hex 18. Definitely a stiff wiry string but excellent ball bite/spin and really good control.

    2. Sppp/rip control is a good comfy blend but if you're looking for more spin a full bed of poly is the only choice.

    3. The best control/spin but durability is a real issue at least for me cus I hit hard. Genesis black magic, pro supex big ace 1.22. Seriously thinking of getting genesis hexonic in 1.18 as the reviews on it are pretty good.

    Unlike you, I'd never left my vantages 95s but I've been playing with different strings. I am really surprised at how B I G a difference a good set of strings can aid a game.

    Honestly, get a decent frame and work on the strings... I'm really impressed with ps big ace and genesis strings for price and playability.

    mawashi
     
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  8. Ross K

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    shays,

    The Prestige mid is the wrong pattern for me. It's also undoubtedly a bit too demanding for me. But re balance/weighting, way of swinging & lining up behind the ball, and for the nirvanic planet-aligning joy of nailing winners with this rack, and the whole aesthetic side of playing tennis, hitting with different frames, etc, yes... fantastic frames imo.:)


    Ross C,

    Had a brief hit with the PSTGT the other day (not the XL I was checking a month or 2 back). Was very surprised that even without the extension, it still played sluggish and just didn't do it for me. Re the BLX 95, it's another I'd look at if the chance arose (I got on exeedingly well with the N95 for a while.)

    R.
     
  9. Fed Kennedy

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    Ross, I notice we are similar: negative correlation between frames we love spiritually and those we play well with.
    Note: all the frames you said you play well with are stiff open patterns...same for me...
    All the frames you love the "idea" of are flexy, old schoolish, some closed patterns in there...

    I've thought it about it a lot!
     
  10. Ross K

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    And so it continues...

    Hey there maties,

    Over the last couple of weeks I've hit with the APD original and YTPP... PED and Power Player (among others) are absolutely on the money in imploring me previously to stick with just one racket and give it all my undivided attention for a good period - and I was going to precisely that today, only, towards the end of the first set I realized the strings had gone dead on me in my YTPP... and so, what else could I do but pluck from my bag that old Nadal APD?... :roll:

    For the record, I narrowly lost the first set with the YTPP, and quite handily won the second set with the APD - which is actually how it tends to be with these 2 frames... the YTPP today felt very solid... I sense I'm improving and becoming better acclimatized to the racket, even though generally speaking (well, re serve and groundies) I could just do with a bit more zip and fizz; whilst the APD, again, seemed to click with me a tad better re serve, groundies, b-line play, spin, etc... all of which should probably point to me prioritizing the Babolat.... but the YTPP has so many great qualities and is, in theory, perfect for me... and the APD has, well, a few down-points, so you can see why I'm seriously torn between the two...

    OMG is this ever going to end?!:grin:

    What I'm hoping is that the new string job this week with the YTPP - I'm going lower to about 52lbs (maybe lower?)/Sonic Pro (I think it will be Sonic Pro?), will help provide a bit of added oomph and zip.

    One thing is for sure though, I really will have to decide to focus exclusively, for a while, on one of these rackets very soon indeed.:wink:

    So how are the rest of you all doing?

    R.


    BTW, Had a bit of a hit with the MG Extreme Pro recently... have to say, this racket has that 'whippiness' I'm such a fan of these days, it hits a massive, topspin-laden deep, heavy ball, and basically, I'd be interested in either restringing this or (better still) taking a look at the YTEP - if it wasn't for one thing: every time I've had even the most fleeting of hits with it, I get slight twinges in and around the elbow... :eek:
     
  11. Power Player

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    If you are narrowly losing with one racquet and clearly winnning with another, the decision is done for you.

    I don't know why you think the YTPP is perfect for you when you can not win with it. You are a far better player with the apd, that is all that matters. everything else is in your head to be honest. Anyway, sounds like you have your stick and that's awesome!
     
  12. Ross K

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    Ha, ha... PP, sorry, I know you aren't trying to be funny, but it just made me smile... and very true, btw...

    Actually the 'perfect for me' comment refers to the smaller head-size, the solidness, the quality build, the feel and touch, the Head/Prestige lineage, the open pattern, the balance and weighting and sweet way of swinging, the whippiness, etc.

    You are right though.:wink:

    R.
     
  13. Dave M

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    That was a brutal and honest comment from power player that we should probably all take note of, i'm off to find on O/S acquet and just play like the old ones at my club, i'll check my dignity here.
     
  14. Fed Kennedy

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    Ross, did you ever try an aerostorm? That other thread makes me want to try one. I picked one up, it feels strangely heavy...
    I am going to eat pie and go skiing this week, trying to use all my willpower not to order a donnay. :)
     
  15. Ross K

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    Fed,

    Ok, you picked one up and it felt kind of heavy... but did you hit with it?! :) To answer your qsn, it's yet another one I've never tried, but would like to.

    On to far more serious matters though... exactly what kind of pie are you you munching here, buddy?:roll:

    R.
     
  16. shaysrebelII

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    Howdy friends! Here's my contribution/update:

    More hitting with the n95, and more feeling good, not great. This could be due to my gameplan lately though. I've been opting for consistency and depth, not necessarily winners, which is both more fun, and where this frame shines. In any case, when I go home for Turkey Day, I'm gonna shelve the n95 for a time and focus more on the AG100 and after that, the KBT. Hopefully I'll still be in a KBT phase when the BLXBT gets released, and the transition will be seamless! Then again, a big part of me is sure Wilson will botch it completely and the BLXBT will either be terrible, or so different from the KBT that I won't want to bother.

    On another shopping note, the looming of Black Friday/Cyber Monday has got my racketaholic sense in overdrive! I can't wait to see the deals TW is going to have, not to mention the retailers where I live. I fully expect myself to be tempted beyond belief and not follow through but ya never know - a racketaholic can dream, right?
     
  17. Ross K

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    Racketaholic diary update

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    (Above pic is from my specially built 'tennis racket annex' that we've had recently added on to the house. In shot are a few 'play things'. The other 1,500-plus rackets are just out of shot, in our recently specially built 'tennis racket depot/warehouse'... ahem...)


    So... wielding my APD Original for around a month, I have been playing the best I've played for ages lately... actual FLUIDITY and RHYTHM, as opposed to the normal stiff, slow, feet like Tony Soprano has cemented my feet together performance I usually doll out, much to my reg/ hitting partners vast amusement... yes, there is defininitely something to be said for this playing regularly with just 1 frame hoo-ha :wink:

    Therefore, it will come as no surprise to you fellow-racketaholics to hear I'm looking forward to finally playing with my restrung YTPP (Sonic @ lower tension of 52's); my old PD+ is tweaking my curiosity (I think it has a couple of major assets that the APD lacks); I'm almost certainly going to be checking out (for the second time) the TFV02 320 (theoretically and in term of specs and performance traits, this should be really in my ball-park these days; and if I can find a deal on YTEP, I'm still wondering about this frame.

    Dear oh dear eh?!... :roll:

    So what's the latest out there with you fellas?


    R.
     
  18. Dave M

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    Love the pic and i dont think there is one of us who know you now who wouldn't believe it!
    I have decided to make a conscious effort to stick with my newly acquired donnay frames, am even going to properly try to sell the others to help this situation, only issue is i have a pile of pro one limiteds, limited oversize and international supermid frames sitting here, is it still being a racquetaholic if they all are sort of the same????The paintjob is similar,:oops: My game will still suffer won't it!
    I went to the physio a couple of years back, after a few sessions on my shoulder she asked me to bring my racquets with me to see them.I thought she was being thorough turned out she didnt think i could not use them as i couldnt be trusted not to play so wanted to keep them there for a week.Starting to think we may have to do a similar intervention on Ross to help him out!
     
  19. shaysrebelII

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    ^^ Excellent pic Ross. I can't help but notice the n95 there on the left. It's a poetic way of looking at how that stick has affected me: even when it's not in my hand, it's never far from my mind, just hanging out there on the periphery, sorta like in your "racquet annex."

    As per my playing, I'm just sort of in a rut right now. I've been circulating my AG100, KBT, and APDC, frantically trying to make one stick, and none of them will. From the baseline, the going is good, but my transition and net game is just completely off right now.

    Even though on the court it's been difficult, off the court, my racketaholic tendencies are thriving! :) I took air swings with a handful of Head sticks when I went to a pro shop, and I can see why my fellow racketaholics are drawn to them. Both the YTPP and YTEP seem capable of unleashing immense destruction, and for those of us who don't fancy the grip shape, the subtler handle of the Speed line can surely do the trick.

    Then, last night, a guy from the tennis class I took had some TW demos and was rallying on the court next to me. After sending several forlorn glances at his shiny new demos, he asked if I wanted to take some swings with them. It was already getting dark by this point, so I had a limited window of opportunity, and I jumped at the chance. The demos I honed in on were two frames I've always been curious about: the PDGT and PDRGT. Even though I only got to hit against a wall for about ten minutes total, I think I preferred the non-Roddick version. (I'd certainly like to know more about these racquets, if anyone has any experience with them.)

    So, I'm sort of back to where I started: sticking with the KBT and waiting with bated breath for the release of the BLX Blade series.

    How is everybody else?
     
  20. Ross K

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    shays - I love your devotion to the N95... you should 'do a Kinsella' (poster who once wrote 'Ode to a PT280'!) and pen a poem or something!... or how about starting an N95 club?...

    Re the PDGT and PDRGT, afraid I haven't played these GT versions at all. However, I know the older versions pretty well. The PDR just never worked for me, slightly weird balance and weighting, always felt mega stiff. The legend that is the PD though, I liked more, though feel, touch and quality build are not really in the frame description, if you know what I mean... but powerful... mega easy to swing... big oomph and topspin... guaranteed addition of mph to any serve... sound like your cup of tea?... BTW, I'm actually an ex PD+ user and am wanting to hit with that again properly to see how it compares to my Aerodrives.


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  21. Xenakis

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    Bleedin' 'eck!
     
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    Ross,

    Thanks for recognizing my devotion! That means a lot coming from a fellow n95-er! I'd be game to start an n95 club thread, but I'm just not moving in that direction right now, as I stated toward the end of my post. Plus, I can just swamp this "Racketaholic" thread with all my n95 observations! Muhahahaha...

    The GT Roddick version felt almost exactly how you described it. I attributed the odd balance to more weight in the head, which would make for more plow-through on serves, and convince the average consumer that he/she is capable of unleashing Roddick-esque bombs. I certainly enjoyed the PDGT more, and its defining characteristic to me was its sweet spot size. I was hitting everything spot-on and decided, just for the heck of it, I'd try to hit some two-handed backhands, something I never, ever do. But lo and behold, each one of them hit the sweet spot, and felt awfully good in the process. Again, I was only hitting against a wall, and not for very long, but the results were definitely encouraging. Over Xmas break, I plan on ordering some demos of my own, and maybe the PDGT will be one of them.

    But enough about me...how long did you use the PD+ for? In what areas do you think it might be an improvement over your Aerodrives?

    Best,
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  23. Ross K

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    shays,

    I actually was a late-comer to the game, and although I did have a year or two of playing various none too stella Prince Triple Threat frames (they had those slightly silly sounding names like the 'TT Blast' and others I forget), 'I consider the PD+ to have been my first proper frame really... I played it for at least a year and a half, and certainly long enough for me to develop the beginnings of a basic game and style (ie, stand rooted to the b-line and bash away! :) )... and I suppose, the frame you developed with at the outset and grooved your strokes and game with, well, it must kind of reside in your DNA. Anyhow, that is my initial PD+ history, if you will... and immediately thereafter, of course, there then began the swift lurch into racketaholicism - a debilitating condition that still afflicts me to this very day (LOL!)...:shock:

    But, yes, for a big serve, a 2hbh, b-line-bashing, etc (and btw, it's my serve and 2hbh that always needs the most 'assistance' :wink: ), the frame is fantastic... and to answer your qsn on what it has over the Aerodrives, for me it nails a ball better (maybe because it hits a tad flatter for me?... maybe because it's a bit more solid?... not entirely sure why...) I can also hit the ball with a bit more precision and control... and I can also hit a slightly better, beefier serve/2hbh... lastly, the PD+ is a less head-heavy than the APD.

    The thing with the PD+ (and most XL frames I've tried) is the trade off between having that stellar x-factor in the oomph department 2hbh/serve/general b-line game, as well as the extra reach advantages, and the fact you get jammed up easier and it can generally feel a little less mobile - which, in my book, is a massive consideration.

    Anyhow, I'll be taking a look at that soonish with a new string job... the YTPP too (if the useless postal system in my country can possibly return my frames to me sometime before Christmas!!! :evil: )... I'm also going to be checking the TF V02 320 (which, in theory, I should love)... but, it must be reiterated, I've found some rare form and rediscovered the winning habit with the APD, so whatever I might choose to look at, it has a long way to go to 'win out', as it were.

    ATB,

    R.
     
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    Since my divorce from the APD last week, my cousin has very kindly lent me his PDRod GT+, and I think its way better than the APD. It has just as much spin but with more power and a much nicer quality feel. Also the balance on the + version is so good that its headlight but you dont feel the extra lenght and 2, the head weight feels just right so no need to go leadding away. Only I have gone of 25/26 mm beam widths and prefer now 20-22 so wont switch to this but i give it thumbs up
     
  25. Ross K

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    Have heard the APDGT+ totally beats the PDRGT+ all ends up!... j/kidding:)


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    Ross,

    RE the TF VO2 320, I'm the same way. I got a TW demo and was excited to try it, but it was strung with a really mushy, awful multi that just felt off. Maybe I'll try in again someday. I demoed the YTPMP and was unimpressed, but when it comes to Head racquets I tend to do better with open patterns, which would make the YTPP a worthy demo. And it's odd; for how well versed I am as a racketaholic, I've never tried an extended length frame.

    I understand what you mean by other racquets having to "win out" over your APD. I just rally with people most of the time, but if I played competitively I'd take the court with my KBT every time. I know exactly what I'm gonna get with every shot with the KBT, and that goes a long way towards winning. This raises the burden of proof for any frame that wants to take its spot, and honestly I don't think any racquet I currently own can step up to the challenge. Maybe the n95 on a good day, but I'm so hit or miss with that (glorious, one of a kind) stick that I could never risk using it during a match. Nope, it all comes down to the release of the BLXBT; will it finally cure my racketaholism? It would be nice for my wallet if it did, but hopefully I'll never be completely cured!
     
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    Interesting. Beam width is also a pretty big selling point for me (which, on a side note, makes the new Donnays very intriguing.) Like I said originally, my experience with both the PDGT and the PDRGT was limited to about 10 minutes' worth of hitting against a wall, and on the whole I liked what I felt. I would just need more time to form a comprehensive opinion of what I liked/didn't like about them.
     
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    You will never know if a racquet is going to work for you unless you demo it with a string setup that you like. The strings make the biggest difference in feel and how you play.
     
  29. Ross K

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    Greetings my fellow 'racketaholics' and others with non-designated disorders of a mainly addictive kind!:)

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    Well, aside from the YTPP, which I haven't finished with, and a strong desire to check out a TF V02 320 (about to test it actually), it has to be said that this (above) is the frame I seem to have played best with in 2010 and gravitate towards.

    But my query is this... (calling all you string gurus!)... I find the frame to have a slightly hard to gage response re power, by which I mean, the lower powered (than Cortex and GTs) APD Original (Rafa's same black frame pj as above) is oddly less powerful than most would imagine it to be (eg, a PD is a lot more powerful imo)... hitting at about 95 per cent the ball never sails long with me, and I'm stringing Tour Bite @ 52 lbs! But, as soon as I go into about 98 per cent maximum power hitting mode ( :roll: ), well, that's when the over-hitting and blasting long tends to creep up into my game.

    So, I'm thinking... tension/strings (and I mean all types of strings)... what would ppl recommend I consider for retaining big power but - when hitting out with the big strokes - the control is still there.

    Cheers, chaps,

    R.

    BTW, 'Mystic Ross' predicts Power Player will say 'technique!' ...lol!...
     
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    Ross, I won't say technique but it's likely a matter of getting a bit more extreme on your grip to the western side and really using a lot more topspin. The apd has deadly control then. I'm using TB myself and I've got it at 49/47.

    It's hard to switch technique wise back and forth between the ytpp and the apd since they are designed for different kind of strokes. I can't emphasize that point enough. Both are great sticks but it's tricky to move between the two of them and get consistent strokes: at least it was for me.

    Tennis maverick over on Rabbit's dark side thread did a great job talking about the 2 styles: 1. pressuring the ball and 2. grinding the ball. YTPP is more suited for pressuring and hitting more through the line of the ball and the apd is more suited for grinding.

    You can pressure the ball with the apd, it just takes some practice to get used to it with the greater power over the ytpp.

    You could try high tension in a full poly setup in the apd but I did not care much for that myself. The string that you desire above doesn't really exist......or if it does, I've not found it yet and I've tried them all :)
     
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    That's a real good point. I am going away from the western grip and now using the semi western. It really has helped me out but the stroke changes. For me it will be for the better because i was hitting with more of a grinder style,and I am better when i can drive shots to the corners for winners or setup shots.

    I can get away with doing this style with the Tfight, but there tends to be alack of control there sometimes, which is why I may demo a ytpp. But honestly,i do think it is mainly technique,because you can hit monster ball with this tfight. What helps me is going away from the straight arm and using the double bed. Also making sure that at contact, the tip of my racquet is on the way to being pointed straight up.

    You could try stringing at 55 also, but with the apd, it is mainly technique . Look at Nadal who hits with heavy spin and is mainly semi western in his grip. He does straight arm, severe low to high. Try double bend and a little more horizontal with a windshield wiper finish and you should be on your way.
     
  32. PED

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    Excellent point, I've been working on extending more through the stroke: driving the ball more as opposed to brushing up on it. I was able to watch Verdasco play like last August, and his FH extension through the shot is really amazing.
     
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    Howdy racquetaholics!

    I finished up my college term (good grades, somehow) alternating between my AG100 and KBT mostly through hitting against a wall (which incidentally is excellent stress relief, amid finals and whatnot.) My AG100 is stock, except a really sexy feeling leather grip, as is my KBT. Nothing groundbreaking about any of this wall hitting; it basically confirmed the main difference I've always felt separates these two frames: the AG100 has better power, the KBT has better control.

    As for now, I'm back home with demos galore! Weather permitting I'll hit and get a review up today. Here were the four lucky winners of my tireless quest for the perfect demos:

    -Head YT Prestige Mid
    -Prince Rebel 95
    -Solinco Pro 8
    -Babolat PDGT

    Hope to get back to you by later today! :)
     
  34. Power Player

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    Do you think the ytpp is a good stick for driving the ball like this? The Tfight so far seems very effective at it.
     
  35. PED

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    YTPP is very effective at that type of ball: it also has excellent control. Great stick all around. It hits a big ball and is very stable. i had mine at 343g strung. If i wasn't with the apd, i'd have the ytpp. I just can't imagine not have a plus length stick now though.....it took long enough to get adjusted to it.

    The only thing that would likely drive me away from Babolat would be wear and tear on the body. They are much tougher on the shoulder than Heads are. But, so far so good...
     
  36. Power Player

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    Yeah, i have really zero issues with the tfight, but so many people rave about the ytpp that it's worth a look. Also coming from the Dunlop 300 tour, i feel like the ytpp could be a more powerful version with the legendary feel that everyone loves. Plus i want a 3rd racquet, so it will either be the ytpp or the newest Tfight that came out.
     
  37. PED

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    The new Innegra speed racquets sound nice as well. They've got the heft in the 315 version thats a 16X19 and they've nudged up the SW to more reasonable 335 as opposed to 320 or so.

    It sounds like the stick that the Rad Pro should have been-that 345 SW was a bit much in the end but it did feel great.
     
  38. getsby

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    In my opinion the high SW has little influence on the groundstrokes, but strongly affects the serves and overheads. With the radical microgel PRO I generally could not play tennis, though I have not had a problem with n-code90 and K6.1 :?
     
  39. Ross K

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    PED and PP,

    Very interesting observations indeed on grinding V hitting through and pressurizing ball techniques, frames, etc... btw, 'Mystic Ross' looks in his crystal ball and predicts a certain PED shall be checking out an Innegra Speed 315 not too long after they come out!:)


    shays,

    Just wanted to say (and I referred to this in another thread this morning), I could never quite figure out why, but the AG100, for me anyway, was a wonderful serve stick... 1st serves were stella amazing!... Also, that list interests me... in my racketaholic dazed and intoxicated state of of the last few years, I went through a phase of extreme love for the Reb 95 (still regard it as great frame... lovely softish string-bed feel, thumping solidity, loved it on 2hbh) and the MG Pres mid was a short but incredibly passionate little period for me (sorry, I don't want to weird you all out here :shock: ) what with the beautiful balance and weighting and sweet way of swinging ... and the PD of course is a landmark classic racket to my mind... superb pop, spin, ease to maneuver, etc... why just mentioning its mere name makes me yearn for the days of ye old Babolat Alliance thread - ha, ha... where for art thou Pure Drivers, AeroPro Warriors and Pure Storm Troopers?!... ahem :roll:.

    R.
     
  40. Meaghan

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    hey ross

    you may find that sometimes the feel of hitting at 98% you are actually flattening out your shots and therfore they are sailing long??

    also i have found TB goes mushy real quick and i had problems with control.

    with the apd being pretty stiffish i would keep my tension in the 50lbs range (+/- a few lbs) and find a more consistent string......recommendations are difficult, you know i like alu, but i restring each match. I think a softer poly personally like rpm or pacific xforce would suit, Ive just tried pacific poly force and that was interesting....stiff but soft!!!

    which brings me onto you buying a cheap stringing machine when you sell all those rackets :(

    grinding and pressurising sticks is interesting..... I had no real problems hitting full western bh and fh with my kps at the time, remember. I used the racket as it was the best serving racket I had hit with, utilising my biggest weapon. OK I sometimes struggled with my fh but it was about balance.
    I also had a OPT which did wonders for my forehand but nothing for my serve.
    My move to Vantage was about finding the same attributes that complimented me in both sticks. The OPT is not unlike your apd and my kps in some ways is similar to the PP. Thats why you mention your ag100 all the time you miss that serve, you cant get it with the apd but you cant hit your baseline stuff with the dunlop. Dilemmas dilemmas eh Rossy, you love it I know you do, it keeps you awake at night musing over your perfect muse :)
     
  41. PED

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    Oh, I hope mystic ross is wrong!!! Having said that, it's the only stick coming out that looks appealing to me spec wise.

    Ironically, I did not care for the 2009 Speeds and hope this one is different-they were much less crisp than my Prestiges.
     
  42. ryushen21

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    I'm really hoping that the Innegra Prestiges will not be as good as the YT version. The tech sounds like it is similar to the old twaron material and that makes me very excited. Demo will be a definite and needless to say, I will slowly be hoarding money into my paypal acct in case I need to purchase or stock up on the YT when they drop the price.
     
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    Ross , you nailed it with the description of the YTPP. It feels awesome. The bevels are super defined and the butt end is more flared. But I played better tennis with the Tfight. The demo was strung a little high for me and with a multi so I know that is a little of the problem. Perfect sweetspot winners feel incredible and the racquet is very accurate. The feel is exactly what I expected and excellent.

    The racquet feels like a better version of the Dunlop 300 Tour if you lead at 3 and 9 and add leather.

    I started getting it down and hitting some bigger shots, but my Tfight is set up a lot different in terms of power (full poly strung at 52#s). The balance also feels a little less whippy and I simply hit heavier shots when I flattened it out more. I could hit a lot harder with less energy especially on the backhand side. With the Tfight I can hit my backhand off my left foot if stretched wide and still hit a quality return. With the YTPP set up at 57#s and a multi, it was much more difficult to get the same depth. As much as some of this is the strings, some of it may be the balance. It is close to the Tfight, but does not swing the same.

    The ytpp rules at slice backhands. It was simply awesome for that. But you have to swing harder for the same results. That actually can be a good thing because touch is very easy to get and it is easier to get serves in. I need to spend more time with it, but I was noticably better with the tfight.

    How does the ytpp play with something like Hexonic at 52#s?
     
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    YT Prestige will be around at least another year according to what a Head rep said at my tennis shop.
     
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    I know. They are always the last line to get updated and that is just fine with me. One thing that I like though is that the Prestiges (at least the mids) all have the same way of swinging. The only changes seem to be in feel and stiffness. So even if I do go to the new line, there will still be that sameness to them.

    And that gives me a year to save to either pick up more YTs or the Innegras. :)
     
  46. Ross K

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    Meags,

    Interesting to hear your thoughts on Tour Bite. Have to say, I do like this string. Getting in a more experimental mode for the next few months though, I am about to look at Mantis Power.

    You're not wrong there!:)



    PP,

    Good to learn of your YTPP impressions, and they actually echo my own, just swap your TF for my APD... The only thing is, 1 - I haven't played enough with this racket (not at all lately, just the APD.) And, 2 - (and you referred to it) I haven't yet checked the PP at a lower (ie, low 50's) tension with poly - I'm just so curious to see if this gets that power level up a bit to a level that makes the difference (I told you my win record with the APD compared to the YTPP is significantly better and I think a lot is to do with 'the oomph factor' .) As I keep saying, I do love the YTPP generally, but it's slightly not there for me atm, whereas the APD kind of suits my game maybe a tad better, but I do have an issue or two with it :roll: ...


    R.
     
  47. PED

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    The ytpp does need lead-especially on the bh side, the lead gives it some more oomph and brings the sw up nicely. I tried both at the tip and at 3/9 and preferred it at the tip.

    For whatever reason, I always liked the ytpp with higher tensions. I used mine throughout the spring and summer with full Typhoon at 59/57. Hexonic would also be really nice in there as well.

    Of course, it's winter now, so the lower tensions would be nicer. I'm finding Tour Bite to be an excellent winter string and it lasts longer than Typhoon as well.

    The TB also seems less affected by the cold weather. I played on Tues and it was 26 degrees and the TB was quite nice....
     
  48. Ross K

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    URGENT STRINGING ADVICE RE TF V02 320...

    Am I correct in assuming it would play very similar re power to my APD Orig?...

    As I like my APD strung w/poly low, would that (52 lbs) work equally as well for me in ppls opinions in the TF V02 320? Maybe with T/Spin Cyberflash?

    TIA,

    R.
     
  49. PED

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    If you have a more "modern" poly laying about (mantis power maybe) I would use that over cyberflash.

    It's more of an old skool poly: lowered powered, not as much feel when compared with the tour bite you've been using. I'd hate for the CF to mitigate your potential enjoyment of the frame :)
     
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    Yes, 52#s is what i string. Cyberflash is lethal in the 320, it is just not as comfortable as you can imagine. I use Hexonic at 52#s right now.
     

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