Diary of a Racketaholic

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. UWBTennis

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    No I'm talking about my Wilson stick in the signature, but I'll get around to the Prince again soon enough.
     
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    As PP said, use 1/4 tape. Here's what I did:

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    Thanks for that pic..I have yet to apply lead tape and was wondering if it would fit without going in the ports..nice.
     
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    np

    It's Unique tape, 2 strips on top of each other on both sides.
     
  5. UWBTennis

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    But since I'm using a racket without holes I can just put it on the top right?
     
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    PP-

    With all the racket switches recently, is there any reason you did not return to the donnay? It seemed like you left because of some wrist issues, but some of the rackets you've gone to ie, apdgt, cant be more arm friendly. Just curious because you were effusive in your praise of the plat 99 and then you switched and you seem to still be searching.

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    Ross.... I believe your destined to have 3 12-pack bags hunched around the shoulder on your way to a match..... It's hard to pick one and go...I know.

    I played with the PresMid for so long that nothing feels truly 'right' in my hand(s). I had to compromise.

    The APD... the beam always put me off in the past... but now that I've made the 'compromise' and switched.. another demo might be worthwhile.

    The O3T... try a poly in the 40's. I strung one of my exo3Tours today with LuxM2Pro at 42lbs. and the 'oomph' has gone up exceptionally... not to mention the comfort... slices and serves with these types of sticks and a poly in the 40's is stupendous.

    The YTPP... I have recently acquired a YtPresMid+... and it is a stiff... touch-less mess with this one..... I'm sure the open pattern of the YtPp helps out a little in this area.


    Could this be caused by the handle shape?

    I had forgotten or had gotten used to Head pallets over the years... but now that I'm swinging a Prince-pallet... Head pallets truly are harsh on my wrist. On serve and fore-hand especially if not exclusively... any shot that involves wrist pronation.

    My hands seem to get locked in one position with Head grips (now.. all of a sudden??).. with a more traditional grip (like the Prince).. it seems to rotate easier with the racquet... Don't know if that makes any sense.
     
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    Ok long answer for you:

    The platinum 99 was great, I changed my game up and went back to more spin which is why I dabbled with the APD. The Plat is a prestige style stick, but to me just more powerful and far easier to use. It rewards a flatter swing path then what I have gone back to. I still think the Platinum is really slept on, and if you like the Prestige Midplus, but want more beef, this is the way to go.

    At this point, pain was too bad, and I sat out for 2 months and then got a PK to recover...really liked it and still have 2. I basically figured out what was irritating my wrist (serve technique), fixed it and wanted to see if it could handle the APD, since that is one of my favorites..anyway, it can somewhat, but I started feeling some pains.

    To see if it was the APD or something else, I looked for an APDGT substitute with more flex and found the Prince EXO. No pain, loved the racquet more than I thought. It is not perfect, but it has a lot of traits I am looking for, and is very very easy on the arm.

    So yeah..I don't even know what else I would search for at this point. I have played about everything..lol. My main thing besides health is winning matches and I simply am more consistent and in control of my serve and groundies with baseline spin sticks. All I can say is that this racquet is not the typical honeymoon where you hit tons of winners and blow people away with awesomeness. It is just an extremely fun racquet to use that seems to match my strokes very well and allow me to hit out when neccessary and add heavy spin when I want. Most importantly for me, the feel is extremely plush and I am a sucker for that type of racquet.


    Klem, I think I just need to stay with flexier racquets.I am not sure if it is the grip shape..the PRestiges are around 65 RA and that is not bad, but since the sweet spot is so small, the mishits can get to you over time...plus I was using full poly as well.
     
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    The trajectory differences were actually very noticeable. Djoker's had a lot of spin, but he kept it so that the spin never really slowed it down. A lot of shots from Rafa were being visibly tanked down by the spin. Both had their advantages.

    Fed is a very attacking player, but I wouldn't really know how to describe it... His shots have so much spin, too. He just smoothly glides in and smoothly swings, and because he hits so much spin, instead of having that giant 'Boom' noise when he hits the shot, it's more of a swishh. And the ball just kind of smoothly archs through the court... I can't really describe it. But we all know the difference between a well-struck flat ball and a well-struck spinny one, and you know how the spinnier ones are just kind of more graceful and controllede looking? That's how all his shots were. There never really zipped through much faster that Tsonga's, but they were devastatingly heavy and he controlled the trajectory beautifully so that it hurt the other player, and his immaculate footwork set up before most other people do, so he was able to take it a little bit earlier which made them even more dangerous.

    Serena... No. Not really what I'd consider to be a model of feminine beauty, to be honest. It appears that some time hundreds of years ago, an honest, hardworking mountain hermit planted himself a couple of trees from seeds he found on a cone given to him by a friend. Over time, the trees grew and grew, and the mountain hermit cared for them as if they were his children. After many many years, they had reached a level of girth far surpassing anything, even Redwoods, that the mountain man had ever seen.

    These trees were then transplanted onto the pelvis of Serena, to serve the purpose of her legs. Her arms were stolen from the mountain hermit, who had lived by himself in the mountains for his whole life and had reached an inpressive level of physical development. Her rumpus... Wow. God, that thing was scary. I don't even know what I could pretend spawned that thing. I heard everyone in the crowd around me joking about it constantly.
     
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    Anyway, I got to see a bunch more matches today.... Isner/Murray, Rafa/Roddick and then the mixed doubles finals.

    Isner reminded me of Michael Jordan, just because of the way he slumps around when he's not playing or after he's lost a point. However, I have to say that I admire his self control and mental game immensely, especially after that little issue with the weird calls on Murray's serve. His serve was something that has to be seen. The angles he can get are just devastating. The angle he hits his kickers from is devastating. The speed he gets is devastating. And he has to be the only player I've seen recently that can actually serve well enough to keep the S&V style valid without getting passed right and left.

    His movement... Much to be desired. This was especially evident against Murray, who anticipated everything brilliantly and moved to get to it fantastically. Much as I hate the guy (God, you should have seen him push... The lobs... My word.) He has a fantastic game. The basic strategy I saw from him was to stay in one place and move Isner. Which he did incredibly easily, expecially because Isner was missing almost all of his short ball putaways by about 6 inches and was very tentative about hitting it close to the lines. But Murray's on the run shots were just insane. He got there and pounded them back just as hard as he did with the ones he had a good look at. The only thing that changed about them was the pace.

    If Isner gets to be a little faster and starts to be more confident when swinging out, he's going places. He hit some MASSIVE forehands when he was mad, and his DTL backhand was really unpredictable and was just about the only shot that he could consistently surprise Murray with. ALso, a recurring pattern that I noticed... He would start off his service game with two outstandingly stupidly easy errors. He would get scared. He would serve something like 4 140 MPH serves in a row. Murray would yell at himself, because clearly if he isn't returning serves that only come in at a meager 140 MPH he'll never make it to the Big League.

    Rafa and Roddick was really... Impressive. There's no other way to describe this. Rafa was just playing great. I know the score makes it looks like Roddick tanked terribly, but I can assure you that at least half of the reason for the lopsided numbers on the scoreline was the Rafa factor. His serve is much scarier than you'd think fmor TV. It doesn't necessarily go quickly through the court, but the spin somehow makes it seem much faster than it actually is. He hit more sub-100 MPH aces than anyone I've seen. The key was that they all looked like they were going somewhere in the box, and then they dropped and pulled sideways juuussst enough to give Roddick some serious trouble. And his seconds... Roddick couldn't get a clean shot off of any of then. They moved tremendously.

    Rafa's backhand was more of a weapon than either of Andy's groundstrokes. He moved it well, varied the spin, flattened it out, hit great angles... Nothing was wrong with it. There were several points where Andy hit every shot to his backhand to try and keep it away from his forehand, and Nadal just took Roddick apart with his weaker side alone.

    His forehand was nothing short of incredible. His swing is actually very long and smooth, too... It's a very good looking stroke, in a modern, crazy sort of way. But he could do anything he wanted with it. It was penetrating, heavy, and the angles the spin allowed for were insane. There was nothing Roddick could do, in a rally he couldn't hang with it even if Rafa hit them right too him. It was just overpowering. He used sidespin to nip the lines on many occasions. His passers were untouchable. I really don't even know what I could have possibly suggested to Roddick if I could have... He just didn't have any tool in the box that could deal with this shot on this day.

    Anyone who calls Rafa a pusher is out of their mind, IMHO. Every shot he hits is at the very least uncomfortable for the other player to return. He may be able to play some fantastic defense when needed, but it wasn't the main part of his game like it used to be. He could change the direction of almost any shot, and because of the insane amount of racquethead drop he has, the height of the ball coming at him doesn't affect him much at all and he can hit whatever shot he's like off of shots that gave the other players trouble, often catching Muller and Andy off guard with the aggressiveness off of a shot that they had thought to be unattackable.

    Roddick somehow managed to make 135 MPH serves look easily returnable. He had a decent number of aces, but there's a reason he was broken as consistently as he was, and that's because he was going for speed over placement, and Nadal wasn't having any trouble with speed and Roddick never switched it up.

    Now, I know a lot of you have watched Roddick on TV and thought
    "Wow, that forehand looks like a fluffball... It can't really be that wimpy, can it?"
    The answer is a definite and resounding YES. I don;t know what he's thinking with this shot... Near the end he started cracking them again like times of old, and they gave Nad a TON more trouble. But the majority of them were puffballs. And they weren't even well placed puffballs. Rafa could do whatever he wanted to with them, because they weren't spinny enough to be confusing, and they weren't fast enough to make him run.

    Roddick really has to do something about his volleying though. I guess not so much the volleying itself, as the shots he comes in off of. He just meanders on in off of the dumbest possible shots... The worst is when he does it off of a second serve to Nadal's forehand. He did this at least five times. He had only one good approach hsot by my count, and that was returned for a blistering winner because even though it was a great shot, IT WAS TO NADAL'S FOREHAND. And I don't care what everyone's telling you about being more aggressive Andy, YOU DO NOT APPROACH TO THE BEST PASSING STROKE IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. It was painful to watch... He was just burned over and over. If he wants to volley, he has to have someone teach him to hit a proper approach first.

    Andy seemed to have the same problem as Isner. He wasn't confident enough with going close to the lines, or low over the net, to get those nice angles. And without the nice angles there was really no way to run the other player without just playing some dang zippy shots over and over, which is inconsistent for anyone but an on-fire Tipsarevic. So they both had to cover massive amounts of court, while leaving their opponent relatively stationary to dictate play.

    The sad thing was that I wanted Andy to win this going into it.

    I did see the mixed finals as well. Really, the only player I was watching here was Sock, because I'm his secret stalker. (I'm his facebook friend too... Don't judge me. :) ) Basically I came to the conclusion that he is the equivalent of the head Radical in person form. He does everything well. His volleys were great, movement and anticipation werte fantastic, great forehand, consistent backhand, good serve, good return, good slice. He's gonna be a great player some day, and possibly even bring back some All-court action for you oldies. He had crazy touch, and I can only remember one time an overhead got past him when he was on the service line. Lightning fast hands. I'm not sure how he'd play in singles, but once he develops that forehand more he's going to be a very flexible player with a steady weapon to rely on.
     
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    My frisky little play-style observations for the day are that Murray is fantastic on the run, and while I give him crap for pushing, I've come to the conclusion that it's mostly because I don't like his teeth. Because while he was never like, teeing off on anything, he was consistently going for lines, and consistently running Isner. The variety he has at his dispense is very useful, and he was able to use surprise to his advantage a number of times when he pulled out a shot that he hadn't hit in sets and executed it perfectly to save a game point or something. His serve played into this same pattern, where it was a relatively little factor, until he needed it. And when he needed it, he pulled out some bombs close to 140, and all in different parts of the box than he had been going to previously.

    Isner really just needs confidence. When he got worked up and mad, he hit some stupendous shots. But because he's so tall, it was hard for him to get low and generate the topspin needed to keep the big ones in the lines, and so he would miss and then get to be scared for a little while. He tries to arm the low ones to get some more spin, but he ends up hitting them late and netting them. If he gets some more knee-bend, he'll be much more consistent and he won't have to worry as much every time he gets a short ball like he did today.

    Andy was just outclassed today, so there isn't really anything I can say for sure, but from what I saw he just didn't go for enough. The shots he was hitting weren't hurting Rafa, but he kept with them instead of trying to crank it up a notch, and that killed him.

    Rafa just never lets you have an easy ball. You have to work for everything, and even if you work your butt off to hit an unattackable shot there's still a very good chance that it's coming back near light-speed to the exact spot you would have never believed possible. He was stupendous at realizing where the opponent is going and wrong footing him and just generally making every shot an uncomfortable one to try and hit.

    I see the big four in the semis tomorrow too, we'll see what happens there... So far though, the best match was still the Janko-Djoker slamdown, and I am still trying to pry my jaw off of the floor from that display of godliness.
     
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    Well, don't know if I'd call the YTPMP stiff per se, what makes it feel stiff is that it has a very stiff hoop and, strangely enough, a fairly dead feeling hoop area.

    This can all be resolved though by adding some weight and stringing low. Try 6 grams of lead at the hoop, that's right, a full 12 inches of lead.

    That sounds like overkill but really it's nothing when you consider the starting SW of the YTPMP is 305 (TW has it grossly wrong).

    Counter balance if you need to in the handle to obtain your prefered balance and despite the extra weight, you'll end up with a 340-345 g. racquet with a comfortable 7 pt. hl. balance. The SW will be a very whippy 320-325.

    To increase touch and feel, string no higher than 53#'s and lower if you want more power. Also, I highly recommend hybriding with a soft multi or syngut. The dense string pattern feels very stiff with full poly but a soft cross string really opens up the sweet spot and will give you much better feel.


    Possible. A SW grip with the stock head pallet is more pronounced than with a traditional, Wilson type grip. I personally couldn't get used to it so I have to put in TK82S pallets on all my Head racquets.
     
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    Your his facebook friend, well I'm just jealous :oops:. But I think you were a little harsh on Andy, he had some physical issues today so he had to try to end the point quickly even if it mean that he had to go 2nd serve to Nadal. And Isner does need better movement but I think that it was a great positive how he fought back in the third set and stayed with Murray till the tiebreak in the fourth set (then he tightened up, urgh:(). Oh well, you win some you lose some. And then Jack Sock, I just love that kid (funny because we're the same age :p) to death which explains my jealousy. I expect great things from him too and hope he develops an all court game like Fish, except since he's young he has a chance to do better.
     
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    thanks for those posts pyrokid, very interesting read
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions.

    Really?!?! 6grams on the hoop?... that's even pushing it for me... especially when this stick is 6gr. above stock weight... so it's puishing 12.1oz. stock. That much lead + counterbalance + grip/og... might very well take this thing well over 12.8oz.

    A trick I've tried in the past is cutting 1/4in. tape in half.. resulting in1/8in. strips... it's nice because you can use less weight and get more even/balanced coverage... so with 12in. of 1/8in. tape I can cover the same surface as 1/4in. strips but have half the weight. Might try this one.

    Yep. Hybrid seems the way to go in this one... and agreed... anything over 55lbs. seems 'life-less' with this frame.

    Coming from a 'hoop-shape' such as the exo3Tour... On serve at least, the PresMid+, swings more natural. Also, now I can understand why Head has always done a good job keeping the feel of the Prestiges as you move from mid-mid+.. (unlike wilson... and some other co.'s)... the spacing/density is pretty uniform in comparison to the Mid (both strung with 17g multis).. in fact.. I would say it's pretty much the same.
     
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    pyro,

    Another fantastic post (^^^) earlier. Great to have such insightful feedback re pro technique or whatever. You're adding a whole new level to the general buffoonery and racketaholic outpourings on this thread. Keep the post coming!


    PP,

    Re the Prince, I'm going to add another 2 grams of lead @ 12 (taking it to 4gs) and continue checking it out. It's too good to pull the plug and just give up on!:wink:


    All,

    Rossi's thought of the day: extended length frames... hmmm... ???...

    Basically I think that when I take a look at the Vantage BC30 next week, although I've removed all the lead (and btw, Meaghan, OMG that was quite a amount you'd slapped on! :shock:... no need for me to buy any lead then for a good year or two! :)), I'm very tempted to leave the home-made and easily detachable extension on. Maybe its the the kudos the APDGT+ has had around here of late. Maybe it's the fact I've always liked the increased leverage for serve, 2hbh and for when you're pulled in (I really liked the PD+ some years back, and the PC Swirly more recently.) And maybe it's because I was so out of shape and out of form yesterday I'm thinking any help I can get from anywhere would be most very welcome. :oops: Anyhow, will post up BC30 play-test thoughts next week.

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    I probably was, but it was only because I had such high hopes and then they were just completely shot down I think. And he was trying it ever at the beginning, when his leg was fine, so I'm not quite sure why he kept going for it. He had much more success at the end when he was just going big on the groundies instead of volleying though.

    I mean, he still did well... If I was in his shoes, with his talkents and tannis ability, on that same court in the quarters, after I saw how well Rafa was playing in the first set I probably would have just decided that there was no way I could win, and I might as well have fun and put on a good show... So I think I'd just try tipping everything. Oh well, there's a reason I'm not a pro.

    Jack's so good... And at only 18. I mean, he basically carried the entire doubles team, haha. You should have seen Oudin. She basically just stood there flat footed while Jack skittered around the court like a maniac, and then when she got a putaway it surprised her and she hit it into the back wall. Not exactly what I'd call focused. But Jack didn't seem to care at all, and he was smiling basically the whole time, even when this crazy foreigner in the stands was yelling less-than-kind stuff at him.
     
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    Forgive me for my bad manners but in my rush to defend my American heroes I forgot to thank you, so now thank you very much :). It's so sad how doubles doesn't get the credit it deserves because I haven't watch a full TV doubles match beside WTT and of course Davis/ Fed cup. I'm not even sure if the match was shown on usopen.org live streaming, if it was, than I need to use that resource more. And about Oudin, for someone who got to the quarterfinals 2 year ago by being a scrappy little fighter that earned the nickname of giantslayer, I would have thought that she was the least likely to have the flat foot, maybe the pressure just got to her. Also, I got a $100 on the crazy foreigner being a Argentine.
     
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    Pyro great detail..it makes a lot of sense to me and is cool to read what you are saying about Nadal. (things I suspected).

    I got a lightly used EXO coming in next week..pretty stoked. Will deal with this demo until then..after that lead will be added and I'll be able to give you guys more detail. Ross let me know how that lead feels..I have heard the ozone is rather different from the EXO though.

    Loving the Djoko/Fed match on..I want to see Fed - Rafa for the finals..I think that would be awesome.
     
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    Got to play the tourbite 1.25 in the tec 320 today, very solid setup, I played to a very high level (for me). Bigtime grip on the ball and a very solid feel when forced to block the ball. Really dig this rac, I think I am good to go with almost any poly :)
     
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    Fed, the 320 is such a great stick, enjoy it. It's too stiff for me now, but it's not really that stiff for what it does to the ball. I always thought the APD and 320 were the best spin tweeners out there and have owned multiples of each.

    More time with the EXO..really love it. It actually hits a nice driving ball for being so open. Unfortunately I broke the crappy multi 20 minutes in on a Donald Young-esque winner..tons of spin and drops safely into the court for me. I can get a ton of racquet head speed with this stick and that seems to be the secret for me to controlling my shots under pressure.

    For some reason 2 handers are really easy to hit with this racquet for me also..so yeah..it has grown on me rather fast.

    After the string broke, I pulled out the 7G...what the 7G gives me the ability to insanely hard flat winners..but in terms of rally balls, the power is not much different than the Prince. It also does not feel as plush as the prince and actually was slightly bugging my wrist, but not too bad..i think this is simply because I went from 52 RA to high 60s, and even kinetic tech can't hide the difference. Still it is quite a pleasurable racquet, but I played flatter shots and was making more errors..I could not generate the same amount of racquet head speed as with the Prince, so I stuck with a flatter swing for the rest of the evening. I think the reason Prince is making a resurgence is because these Oports seem to make the sticks so whippy and easy to rip with...if you are a topspin player this is very good, but a flatter hitter would prefer the 7Gs ability to crush the ball.

    It really boils down to stroke style and feel preference.

    Serves are actually quite nice for me, I got some in with the EXO before hitting..I need spin on mine because I can serve pretty hard with about any stick but I usually hold back because I was not getting the spin I needed to keep it in the box..The EXO really helps me with that, and is a kick serve fantasy...flats are fine..not amazing, but I need to use spin anyway since I am not tall enough to constantly bomb flats.I just like to sneak some in now and then. I would not say this racquet serves big, but it allows you to do nasty things to the ball and drop in a bomb now and then.

    If you are a flat server and flat hitter, the EXO is not the stick for you and I'd suggest the 7G again in the comfort racquet shootout.

    Anyway, having a nice honeymoon currently with the EXO, but I think it is just an excellent racquet and still would recommend it to a spinny baseline player who needs comfort and control over their shots.
     
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    Really enjoying it. It feels like a tweener when I serve and a players racquet off the ground. I'm out of demo-land for awhile.
     
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    pyro,

    Haha... as someone who holds a host of irrational ideas and notions this made me laugh!


    Fed,

    Congrats are in order FK. Excellent stuff. I did of course try (on two separate occasions) to groove with this. I also tested out (in fact in some ways preferred) the older TF320 (pre witchy-poos cosmetics.) Anyhow, there's not a lot of difference between a number of frames that some of us here have all investigated and swapped notes on extensively here (TF, Extreme Pro, APD, Exo, etc.) Always interesting how our preferences and requirements slightly differ though (I wasn't much of a fan of TB in the TF either)... Anyhow, this could kind of be 'the one' eh?


    PP,

    I do agree re your remark about this (Exo) line of frames being for spinny baseliners looking for control and comfort. I guess it's the match up between the Prince's spinny bline control and comfort VS the APD's spinny b-line big power that summarizes my situation. Look fwd to hitting again next week and with more lead @ 12 on my 03 Tour.


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    Yes. Ross at the end of the day it will boil down to what you win most with, but also what is most comfortable if you incur an injury.

    I play too much tennis to use stiff racquets and not flare up the tendinitis.
     
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    For sure. I've just stuck more lead @ 12 on both the APD Original and 03 Tour - TBH I wasn't finding enough depth with either on Friday, though it was first true match in a long time. For an outside bet, I'm also looking at a BC30 I got in a trade, and I'm renewing acquaintances with my TGKPP. I do think though, primarily because of how easy they are to wield from the b-line and for the massive spin, it's really between the APD and 03 Tour for me - and of course if I really click with the latter it will be the Exo Tour I'll be investigating next.:wink:

    BTW, Re your Exo, what's your view on strings/tensions etc? I'm tempted to look at a poly/multi hybrid for my 03 Tour. I'm not entirely sold on SPPP I've currently got in it, though with that extreme dampened feel, I can't entirely tell. My inventory though (which needs reducing) is a fair few polys (TF Black Code, Cyberflash, PHT, Tornado, Beast, MSV, Weisscannon Silverstring), plus I'm fresh out of my usual: Tour Bite. Your thoughts Sir?:)

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    Good question..in my opinion I prefer a syn gut over a multi as a cross in a hybrid. BUT, in the APD, the multi works..it is softer and a crisp syn gut can get harsh.

    The popular cross in the EXO seems to be gosen og sheep micro since it is crisp and should feel great in the EXO. As for polys, the stick I have coming has some barely used ALU power and gosen crosses.

    In my stock, I have Genesis Hexonic..Dunlop Explosiv, Black Magic and 2 sets of Black Mamba..I think I will be going co poly with this stick as usual in the mains..but since I restring a lot, I like to stay with the inexpensive stuff...in other words, I will be taking a long look at Big Hitter Blue and Silver.

    Tensions will be 50 pounds mains 55 pounds crosses to start.
     
  28. sparkyS4

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    Fed, what tension are you going with?
     
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    Well, the semis completely blew my mind... A full write-up after I finish my homework. But wow, first off I would like to refute my previous statement about Fed not pounding the flat ones. He hit out way more in this match, and I really got to see what he plays like. He flattens out lasers.

    Also, I was wondering about why Nadal plays so deep behind the baseline... He uses it as a form of depth control. In his warm-ups, if he's hitting long, he moves back a bit until they're in, and then tried to hit more spin and get it back to normal so he can move up again.
     
  30. Power Player

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    HOw far back is Nadal standing? I have found that when I get my depth right (usually 5 -8 feet off the baseline depending on the player), my timing is a lot better and it is easier to get my weight into every shot.
     
  31. Ross K

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    Come on, isn't your homework done yet?! :)Hey, py, you're dropping such interesting thoughts here kid we want the next installment!

    That ^ (in red) really fascinates me... a form of depth control?... look fwd to hearing more.:wink:

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    Well, if you look at the first few games against Murray it was about 15 feet back on some points. Pretty ridiculous. There were times where I thought he might his a ballboy.
     
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    ^^^ 15 feet??!!:shock:
     
  34. Ross K

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    pyro,

    Q. Does Muzza hit as flat as it looks on TV?
     
  35. Meaghan

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    JGads

    I know you moved on to the black ace mid but did you ever hit with a prestige mid in comparison esp mg600 or pt600, also pb 10 mid and yonex rdx500 mid.

    I've recently hit with the pim pim pro stock yonex and it was superb but to get it to the right balance it weighed 386g! Just too much racket for me especially with our uk weather conditions.

    I hit with the mg600 of late and with weight in the head and handle it flexes and feels like my old pt600, this was the stick I started with four years ago and now it seems I've come full circle with the knowledge of strings and lead it now means I can overcome my initial problems I had.

    What made me think of a mid again was the problems I had volleying with my bc20, yes ok its technique but recent hits with the yonex, the mg and the kps88 have proved that some sticks just volley better. Also interestingly enough its my ability not to shank the smaller head, something I do much more with the 95's!

    Anyways it got me thinking that although the pim pim is a pro stock but it is a paint job of a rdx500 mid and the specs fit and give me room to move, that I would like to try one. So being a racketaholic I thought, what about the pb 10 mid and the black ace as well??

    Any thoughts anyone.......
     
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    i have two racs one is at 53 black code and the other at 55 tour bite

    i cant really tell the difference. i dont think the 320 is really string sensitive. just put some poly in it and play
     
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    Honestly, I don't even know. It was really hard to tell. He looked like he hit much less spin than the other guys, but he could also crank it up if he had to... It was an inconsistent level of spin. And when he went big, he took the same speed cut at the ball, just a flatter swingpath.
     
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    Only downfall of the tourbite is durability. Man, when it dies it dies big time, that magical FYP just shrivels up and dies.

    In that regard, if you can't tell the difference between both strings just opt for the longest lasting one.
     
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    Hey all you racquetaholics,

    So, things have kind of been in the crap for me lately. I haven't played any tennis at all since the middle of July. I ended up with a pretty nasty right shoulder injury and the doc has had me off the courts since then. He's been letting me do some strength training and rehab and things seem to be going well. The upside to this is that I have been able to work on my fitness and endurance. I've dropped about 20 lbs and have gotten a lot more active since I had to find stuff to do that wasn't tennis. If I'm lucky I should be able to get back on the courts at the end of this month.

    I still have the platinums and am planning on sticking with them but I will be going to be moving to a gut/poly hybrid to make things more comfortable.

    I haven't been able to keep up with everything that has been going on in the thread so hopefully I'll get caught up here soon.
     
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    Hey ry,

    Good to hear from you. Hope that shoulder mends well. And dropping 20 lbs means you should be zipping around that court like a 100metres runner once you do return.:)
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    My next step will be to try a smooth poly like hyperion. Weird tension range on the rac 50-56 lbs. But it seems about right
     
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    'Holics,

    What's the word on the TF Speedflex 315? Anyone ever played one or heard reports? Similar to my APDs? Exteme Pro perhaps? Only asking as I might be able to get one on a trade. Not sure yet. TBH I know zero about these racs... the head-size appeals I must say, but 70 RA???... hmm.

    TIA

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    How long does TB last for you?
     
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    I get 7.5 hours before breaking when using heavy spin. 10 hours when I'm hitting flatter but the tension drops a good bit before that.

    It's still playable after that IMO and the best string I've found.
     
  45. el sergento

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    I get a bit less, but I hybrid with a multi. Problem with the tension loss is that I already string low (52) so when the TB drops I'm left with a multi in the mid to low 40's and without the bite of a poly control becomes an issue.

    I usually break the multi before the poly dies, but Haven't been able to do that with TB. Although that's more likely due to the fact that I'm rotating like 4 sticks because I'm an incorrigible 'holic :(
     
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    ^^It's nice when the multi breaks as it forces you to restring and is likely better for your arm as well. By the 9 hour mark, it's really mushy but still better than alu at the 2 hour mark :)

    I use one stick until the string breaks and then go to my 2nd one. That way, at least I'm not dealing with tension loss on both.

    I've also dropped 13g from the static weight on my apd's and my strings are lasting alot longer as well.
     
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    I may revisit it for the classic DY setup in the EXO..but I am going to start with a hybrid..I really like hybrids possibly more to be honest. I do have some Black Mamba that I got to demo so I am going to string it up at 50#s and see if it bugs me at all, and if there is any huge difference in spin.

    The hybrids are cool because they keep me from overusing poly since they break...They also provide more feel to the racquet for me and save me some cash. I just really do not enjoy a multi cross..i usually moves and does not seem worth the price...the one that did stand out to me was MCS comfort..real nice feel on that one.

    Any of you guys use Big Hitter Blue or Silver? I remember that being a pretty nice quality poly for the price.
     
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    Pp was it you who did the mid tests a while back?

    What were your rackets and what conclusions, in short did you make?
     
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    I was also very curious about this one. Specs are great. Looks to be right in your wheelhouse. The new pj is sweet.
     
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    Exactamundo. That's one of the reasons, with comfort of course, that I hybrid with a multi. I hate cutting out string and having to sort of guess when a poly is dead or not. So at least when the multi snaps I know I got the most out of the poly and that my arm is safe from the harshness of dead poly.

    I kind of like Alu when it breaks in after 1-2 hours actually. I've only ever used Alu Rough, but in a hybrid, with a nylon or a multi, and strung at an initial low tension, I find it last quit a bit. At least as long as TB.

    Now, maybe this will sound crazy, but I found alu rough to be less harsh than TB as well. Don't get me wrong, Alu feels harsher than TB during play, but after a long session my joints aren't as sore.
     

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