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Discussion in 'Racquets' started by Ross K, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. JGads

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    Meaghan: gotcha. In fact, the floating volleys have always been one of only two gripes with the stick, the other being something of an inconsistent feel/response on flat first serves -- I can crush them from time to time, then there's a cold spell where I'm not in line with the recoil on serve, then I crush another, then go into another first-serve lull, relying on too many seconds... Other than those two things, though, the frame is absolute gold. SO close to being the Holy Grail...

    Ross: I think you're right to hold off on the EXO for now. It's a great stick, but in spite of EXO love explosion here lately, it's still a little noodley, which again creates some issues on serve. If you didn't jibe with the 03 Tour, I don't think the EXO is ENOUGH of an improvement for the result to be different enough for you.
     
  2. Power Player

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    I don't know. I disagree that the EXO plays noodly. I have had a few sticks that are noodly (like the Donnay Pro One) and they don't possess the power of the EXO. I think the love fest is because the racquet feels so good and yet still hits big. I also do not notice any issues on service power. Serves are as hard as any other racquet for me. I am going by the ball bounce to the fence to gauge this and the feel, but you can get so much racquet head speed that service power is not a big issue.

    I also let Bad Call serve with it and his biggest serves came with it, I think it just takes an adjustment.

    Anyway, I'm personally still settled in with the stick and hoping it stays that way for a while. Just strung up the port hole one with the same setup as the string hole (black Magic/Bam 52#s).

    Ill say this, if you want to dial in a 2hander real fast and get your return game to be a weapon, it delivers. I am not sure why the 2 hander is so good with this racquet, but it is better than extended ones for me.
     
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  3. TheOneHander

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    While the flex issue is up in the air for me-my Tours feel like wet rags compared to my Aero Storms-I agree with PP about the serving capabilities of this racquet. I went through a good two or three hitting sessions during which all I could do is kick, kick, kick...and slice every once and a while. Now, those serves had some nasty spin, but the pace was somewhat lacking. Okay, it was lacking a lot. But I then took a good, dedicated half hour serve practice session and now I can hit serves even better than I could with my Aeros.

    Now, on the power issue, I'll agree that this frame is a little lacking at first. My hitting partner has a few Rebels in his bag, and he tried my Tour out just for fun. The result was that he hit a much spinner, loopier ball with about two-thirds the pace of his normal shots. He also said that I hit a pacier ball with my Storms, but that I hit such a significantly heavier ball with my Tours that the trade-off was completely worth it.

    So, for me, there are some sticks that I instantly click with and there are some that take me a while. My customized Pure Drive Team was a pick-up-and-go racquet when I first bought it, as were my RDS 003s. On the contrary, though, frames like the Aero Storm and the Tour took a little bit longer to get used to, so it's really up to you: how much of an adjustment period do you want?
     
  4. Power Player

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    Yeah, that adjustment period is key. I know that now a guy I hit with has said he just can't chase down my shots like he used to. I think the angles you can create combined with the spin and pace are just lethal. It took me about 3 sessions to dial it in, but I think once you get a racquet that you like in your hands and allows you to play your game, you just adapt to it and learn it.

    I loved that old Donnay, but it had no power at all. Something about a solid, flexy stick with power is so addicting.
     
  5. Meaghan

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    Ross......

    "Tank like" was only a reference made to the rdx 500 mp in relation to playing with the donnay and the volkl. (The middle of the hoop is about 24mm, compared to the donnay's 15mm tip).

    It was also a feeling that the grip felt too bulky. I like small rectangular grips, makes me feel like I can manipulate the ball with my extreme grips.
     
  6. Meaghan

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    After my little outing with my new racks yesterday, I decided to string up my other dnx10 mid with my usual tour bite this time tho @ 52lbs.

    I also added 4g @12 on both rackets and compensated with weight in the handle. Both are now matched at 31.5 cm balance (8/9 pts hl) and with a SW of 350. One racket is five grams heavier, 372g/367g.

    Conditions again were very windy and wet but the extra weight in the hoop and the lower tension was bang on the money. The stability in the head and the plush feel of the volkl make groundstrokes a pleasure, this racket has all the shots and in these conditions my slice backhand was a dream. With the open pattern my whippy fh crosscourt was acute and when I needed pop, it was there aplenty. This racket excels at this weight, the head feels heavy enough to pound the ball but its the rackets manoeuvrability that stands out, it feels positively light, easy, being pushed wide or finding myself in difficult positions and at the net the feel is superb, solid and plush, easy put aways and touch shots. And like yesterday this is a serving stick full stop, it cuts thro the air real fast and if you have the strength to deal with the mass then anything is possible.

    If there is a downside then relatively speaking, its not as controlled as my mg600, but hey its up there.......

    Volkl where have you been all my life, I love you!
     
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    Well, I've been cortex free for a week now and never felt better. :)

    Hit with one of my 5.5 buddies this am. The Tec is a beastmaster.

    Can't say enough about it, I just felt like there are new areas of the court available to me to use with the control I'm getting.

    Nice to use a hard flattish cross court FH to setup up a weak reply then step up and go with an inside out FH with spin that's kicking away.

    I'm going to investigate on strings a bit. I love the TB in here but not quite as much as in the apd. I've got some spinX 16 and Revenge I'll try out as well as Hexonic.
     
  8. Murray_fan1

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    Ross - You might want to look into the Volkl Organix 10 325. It checks all the boxes pretty well.

    Specs:

    Head Size:
    98 sq. in. / 632.26 sq. cm.
    Length: 27in / 68.58cm
    Strung Weight: 12.1oz / 343.03g
    Balance: 7 pts HL
    Swingweight: 317
    Stiffness: 64
    Beam Width: 20mm / 20mm / 20mm /
    Composition: Organix / Carbon / Fiberglass
    Power Level: Low
    Stroke Style: Full
    Swing Speed: Fast
    Racquet Colors:
    Black / Yellow


    If I played a little more this would be the stick I would be using.

    I am really torn between it's lighter sibling ( X295 ) leaded up to my desired spec. ( 11.6 ) and the Organix 8 315
     
  9. Ross K

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    Meags and PED,

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    Excellent you both seem really happy with these new sticks!


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  10. Ross K

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    Cheers for the heads up Muzza. I'm going to look at posts/reviews etc fot it right this minute!:wink:


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  11. Ross K

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    Volkl Organix 315 - anyone hit with it? I'd be very curious to hear ppls thoughts on this frame. Pros, cons, traits, etc. BTW cheers to Murray and PED for steering me in this direction.

    TIA



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  12. Boricua

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    What Technifibre are you referring to?

    How does the feel differ from the APD?

    TW people tell me it feels very similar to APD GT
     
  13. PED

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    I was speaking about the 320 vo2.

    For me, it feels nothing like the apdgt at all. I find it much more similar to the BLX 6.1 95 but lighter.

    I've owned and played with all three apds since 2006: original, cortex and gt, nice sticks but they play nothing like the Tec IMO :) The Tec can produce a much lower trajectory shot for me.

    The Tec 320 does have a firm feel (it also sounds metallic on impact) to it but it's more solid overall-likely due to the higher stock weight (20g over the apd)

    Native power level is higher on the apd but the Tec creates a heavier ball IMO and it penetrates better. However, the Tec will also hit deep heavy top as well-it's quite versatile.
     
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  14. Boricua

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    How about the stiffness? is it arm friendly at all?
     
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    Dude, you need to read what they have already posted on these sticks.

    Anyway, it is not arm friendly and it is not unfriendly either. Right in the middle I would say. I think it is friendlier than the APDgt.
     
  16. Boricua

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    Did you demo the 305 also? if you did, how did it compare to the 320?
     
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    Boricua, PP is spot on here. There's a somewhat harsh metallic sound on impact; it's not that different in sound then the old 03 tour or MG Prestige Pro but the Tec is more pronounced.

    There's a feeling on impact that when accompanied by the sound makes it feel firmer then it is. I don't use a dampener but I did try one out-the sound basically went away and it also softened the impact. I prefer the raw feel from the stringbed.

    I did not try out the 305, I knew I needed to go back to 340g plus for the feel I wanted. Mine are 344g strung with an OG and 31.8cm balance.

    The balance is great for passing up the line as you can get the hoop around so quickly-even when you're caught up short when someone takes a bh up the line to your FH, you can still get some stick on it.
     
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    Ross,

    I am currently between this and the Volkl Organix 295 leaded up to roughly the same spec. I am currently leaning towards this at the moment at it just allows me to do things with the ball so effortlessly. Spin, Pace, Plow etc.. incredible! I understand from the Organix thread that Volkl designed this stick to compete with the PDR and I think they nailed it! The X8 315 brings to the table everything that the PDR does in an arm friendly package with Volkl feel and without the hefty swing weight. No worries about sluggishness here!!! (I had the same experience as you with the T-Flash 315 - always felt like I was hitting with an oversize 110+ racquet)


    Hope this helps!!!
     
  19. Ross K

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    Muzza, thanks - helps a lot.

    One Q if I may... grip shape/handle? Stubby and shortish and rectangular (like TF SF 315)? I definitely prefer a bit of handle-length/room for 2hbh, plus I also prefer less rectangular shape.


    Boricua,

    Great rac is the TF320 if it ticks your boxes (ie - pretty powerful, 95", wide open pattern = lots of spin.) I found it great re ease and speed of swinging. More versatility than APD. Zippy serve. Very spinny. I wasn't so into smaller-head size - which is maybe why I didn't find it hits heavier ball than APD. There is indeed a particular tinny/metallic feel. It's also pretty stiff.

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  20. JGads

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    Ross, man I think you'd dig the 7G. Prestige precision with Pure Drive power. Though it is a little heavier than the APDs of the world. Shame you don't have easy access to the stick.

    And yes, folks, I did it. Traded the Platinum off for that APD+ original. Just couldn't get any other offers for the Plat, other than a MG Radical, so what the hell. Anyway, arrived today, thing is a beauty. Barely a nick on it. 9+ condition. Pretty stellar for an original, non-cortex APD, I think, which should make it easier to sell once I've hit with it and realize it doesn't hold a candle to the 7G -- the likely outcome. Unfortunately, that outcome will have to wait, as JGads seems to have pulled his JGroin, the result of going after a drop shot on a cool night. Gents, this was not a fun sensation.
     
  21. Meaghan

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    Volkl handle is no shorter than anything else I've got but it its deffo rectangular like head grips.

    Jgads
    did you say you had tried the volkl mids? Only wondering cos this dnx10 reminds me a lot of the bc20 but volleys better imo. Serve your other iffy problem seems to be spinny similar too, not sure on the consistent heaters yet tho.
     
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    JGads, sorry to hear about the pulled groin, man. that sucks the big gadzooks. but don't worry, the older you get, the more prone to injury the body becomes. so it's all downhill from here. :twisted:
     
  23. JGads

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    Meaghan, once gave the PB10 Mid a shot. Loved it when rallying, then couldn't hang with the frame once match play started -- that seems to be the case with me, more often than not, with flexy and/or too-soft sticks. In the heat of the moment, when the heart's racing, I need to feel like I FEEL the ball, and usually for me, perhaps because I grew up with Wilsons, I'm more comfy with a little crispness rather than softness. I remember having so much fun with the PB10, though, that I traded for it and experimented with string to get it to crisp up, but just could never dial it in fully, especially in the feel department where it was just a little too soft for me. In truth, it may also have been just a touch too heavy for me at the time, as I wasn't playing as frequently or as good as I've been playing in the last year, which could have contributed to my failures with it.

    The BC20, though flexy, sure did feel crunchy crisp with Tour Bite in it, which made it feel so good/more natural to me. But as another BC20 owner (the guy I traded the Platinum to) just said to me tonight when we discussed the 20, the 20 is just a little inconsistent on that first serve; sometimes the recoil goes into effect just right, rifling the ball, and other times when you don't catch it right, the ball dies or sails, and with me it's too often with the 20 on serve, which is why it's relegated to a part-time, for-fun frame. May even sell it soon. Maybe.
     
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    The girlfriend says to me last night, as I limped to let her in and told her what happened, "You know, maybe since you're getting a little older, you shouldn't be playing so much?" Then she saw the look on my face and said, "I take it back." I let her stay.
     
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    JGads, the time off to heal my wrist also did my shoulder some good. at least good enough that i've been able to serve again. w/ the BC20, i was having problems getting 1st serves in. like you were describing, they either sailed long or went into the net. i don't recall having so much problem serving before, but because it's been awhile since i had served, i just attributed it to rust. but i was able to get more first serves in w/ my PS 6.0. after reading about your experiences, it sounds like the stick might be the culprit. i remember serving w/ the Vantage VT222B when i got it and recall being able to serve some serious bombs. i'll have to pull the VT222B out of the bag and see how i serve w/ it the next time out. maybe i just need to adjust the placement of my toss w/ the BC20.
     
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    lol...hahaha...seriously, man, i seem to get all sorts of aches and pains in addition to injuries i never got when i was younger. and the injuries & aches linger around for a lot longer. as a kid, i used to be able to just sleep them off. not anymore.
     
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    I saw sweeting at the airport this weekend guys. Forgot to ask him his apd setup, my bad.
    Watching fiasco on tc right now. His fh is just crazy. I heard he had a super low sw. Is that true
     
  28. JGads

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    It'll be more consistent, I think. Second serve kickers and slices with the 20 are absolute gold, but me, I have to have that first-serve heater for a handful of free points. That BC20 recoil effect that's so predictable on groundies is unfortunately, for whatever reason, too unpredictable on the heaters. The only way I found a moderate level of success was by switching my motion from more of a long wind-up to more of a Roddick imitation, where you shorten the stroke and just go up there and slap the ball. But doing that also put added stress on my shoulder, and I still failed to get the consistent response that both the 7G and Ace Mid give me.
     
  29. JGads

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    Nice. I recently saw the UCLA Tennis Team at LAX and I was totally racket stalking in the security line, though I didn't get a chance to wait and ask them about their setups and such because A) I was late for my flight and B) would have felt like a nerd. But I was wondering: college players don't play paintjobs or pro stocks, right? There's no sponsorship deals with college players, eh? Just wondering. The UCLA guys each had four or five sticks with them. One had a YT Radical MP and I can't remember if I saw lead or not, another was a Pure Stormer. Can't remember the others.
     
  30. Meaghan

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    Not had any problems at all serving with the bc20.....but I did have an extra half inch, tried it recently standard and really struggled.

    My volkl dnx10 mids have tour bite in and it has crisped up the stringbed, infact with the weight in the head and its stability it flexes and feels very like my all time beauty the pt600. This its at 370g tho.

    What's also interesting is it plays very well at my normal tension 58lbs but it also excels at lower tensions too, something I couldn't get right with the 20.

    Great compromise between the bc20 and my pt600 love affair.
     
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    A lot of 6.1 and storms at their last trip to stanford
     
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    Have you ever seen him live? His fh has 3 speeds: hard, faster and intergalactic.

    His old SW when using the Major/Tec was 315 but Ron Yu at P1 is prepping his Dunlops now and he mentioned on the boards that Fernando's SW is a good bit higher now.

    The thing about Fernando is that it looks totally effortless when he's swinging but the ball just explodes.
     
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    Oh the joy.........

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    Meaghan those racquets are hideously awesome. Very very goaty.





    College players get racquet packages. So what they are using many times is what the best deal they can get. Babolat is real aggressive, so you will see a lot of teams with storms and cortex sticks.

    I had a pulled groin..pulled it playing beach volleyball. It lingered for a while. So be careful..you will be able to play after some rest, but it is easily re aggravated. You will need to stretch it out and just be careful. I would aggravate it now and then, and think I could not go on, but I could usually get through the match so it's not too bad.

    The wrist thing is worse. Every time, I mean every time I serve, I have to have my toss in front and strike the ball properly. If not, the ligaments on the underside of my wrist immediately feel strained. If I keep making mistakes, the pain gets too much and I can't really serve at all without fear of screwing up. the good news is that I isolated a lot of the issues causing this and have been serving a couple times this week and hitting some big serves (yes, with the EXO). The secret is to just let the racquet do the work. What I love about the EXO is the movement it puts on the ball is absolutely sick. You can actually see the ball fluttering on some serves. Once I get real solid on the serve again, I will go back to kickers, and those are going to be real fun.
     
  35. JGads

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    Uhh, wow. I remember seeing your all white (and I mean ALL white) Vantage 95s. M, you definitely have a flair for the tennis racket fashion statement.
     
  36. Murray_fan1

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    Hey Ross,

    The Volkl grip is very similar to Head's pallet shape. Looking at pictures I can see where someone might question the handle length but is is fine. I hit 2HBH and have plenty of room.
     
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    I am am artist after all www.richardmeaghan.com :)
     
  38. Ross K

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    X 2 on a lot of this ^. Usually I seem to do best with and prefer 65+ RA frames, although, for a few different reasons, there are stand out exceptions like the RD7, AG100, and Reb 95. And although this isn't the main factor, it's one reason I'm taking a little look at this beauty below once again.:)

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    Love your work. Especially 'The Mechanics of Insemination' and 'Pi$$ing on the Parade'.

    The 'Fluffer' left me with a strange feeling inside, that's the point. I like how you put yourself as an angel, viewing the whole spectacle of debauchery. Kind of how we humans tend to see ourselves, a 'holier than thou' attitude.

    I like the oil and spray paint combinations, very vibrant and alive.

    You must love visiting Barcelona. I know I did.
     
  40. Meaghan

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    Thanks klem, very insightful, its nice when people read paintings and not just take them at face value.....barcelona is a lovely city, sadly I haven't been there for a few years but was recently talking with the wife about a trip.
     
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    ^ England is slowly becoming the epicenter of art and design.

    Not a surprise really.

    I like to think everything is based on economics. Much like Toledo, Spain enjoyed a renaissance in the 15th and 16th century due to their tolerance of all religions. This tolerance infused the city with capital and economic stability.

    England, despite austerity measures, is still regarded as a safe investment worldwide. This correlation is not a coincidence in my opinion. Just look at all the great work in sculpture, paint and design coming of late from England.

    The best decision England ever made was to not adopt the euro.
     
  42. Ross K

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    Just bumping this...

    Anybody?

    Cheers

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  43. PED

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    I would be curious to what it's like as well.

    I dropped the tension to 52/50 on the Tec in anticipation of lower temps....FAIL

    With the rain, I ended up hitting indoors today and could have used the extra control.

    Still not a bad thing to say about the Tec. Defensively, when caught out wide on the FH side, it's quick enough to allow you to really pull off some Rafa style (lite) shots.

    I wonder how Typhoon would be in this stick around 56/54 :)
     
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    +1 on these comments, great site Richard!

    I liked Mechanics best but also really enjoyed 2 little green men.
     
  45. TheOneHander

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    Klem...I'm quite curious, what is this mysterious Egg of which you speak?
     
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    Have any of you eveer listed all the frames you can remember you've owned for say more than a couple of weeks?(used not just sat around)
    I just made a list of mine.........
     
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    Dave, Off the top of my head, and it won't be like some of those mega-lists I've seen on TT before where people have great personal warehouses of frames - LOL, and I've probably forgotten a few... anyhow...

    Babs - APD Orig, APDC, PC, PC+, PST, PSTGT, PD, PD+

    Wilson - HPS, PSC, N95 (both patterns)

    Head - Rad Tour TT XL, Rad Tour TT, PT630, PT280, I Pres MP, MG Pres mid, LM Pres MP, YTPP, TGKPP, MG Extreme Pro

    Dunlop - Max 200G, 200 MW, older light blue/white 200 MP before AG (?), AG100 mid, AG200, 200 Tour

    Prince - TT Warrior, TT DB Control (?), TT Blast, TT Vengeance or something (?), Reb 95, 03 Tour

    Volkl/BB/PB - C10 Pro, PB10mid, BB11 mid, DNX 10 mid

    TF - TF 325, TF320, TF V02 320, TF SF 315,

    Yonex - RD7, some Kournikove-type Widebody with lots of initials(?), RQ280 mid

    Fischer - Vac Pro 98, Pro No 1 - 320, Pro No 1 - 330,

    And that's all I can remember right now.:)

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  49. rlau

    rlau Professional

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    This should be most of the frames I bought and played with:

    Dunlop - 300g, Aerogel 300 16x18, Revelation 200g Pro Midplus

    Volkl/BB - DNX 9, Tour 10 V-Engine Mid, DNX 10 Mid, C10 Pro, Tour 8, Power Bridge 8, Power Bridge 10 Mid, BB Delta Core London

    Wilson - Hammer 6, nBlade, ProStaff Classic 6.1, ProStaff Original 6.0 95 in K-Factor paint job, H22 in K-Blade 98 paint job, nCode 6.1 95 18x20

    Babolat - Pure Drive FT 135th Anniv. Ed., Pure Storm Ltd (1st and 2nd gen.), Pure Drive Team, Pure Storm Team, AeroPro Drive Cortex, Pure Storm Tour (first gen.)

    Prince - O3 Speedport Tour, EXO3 Tour 18x20

    Head - Microgel Radical OS, Youtek Prestige Pro

    Yonex - RDS002

    I think that about covers it....
     
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  50. PED

    PED Legend

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    Great thoughts as always Klem. :)


    The only thing I would add is to say that the austerity measures may actually enhance the fact that the UK and the pound are considered a safe investment. We went long the Pound back in mid 09 in the 130's and have been quite happy.

    I respect that the Government saw cutbacks were needed and have attempted to make them, otherwise they could end up like Greece or Spain.

    Spain may rule the football pitch but England is kicking their @$$ economically.
     

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