I like to think of it as the Jesus Stick. It's just perfect. Plow. GOAT Feel. Precision. Control. The ability to hit some absolutely magical shots (ask Mad Dog about his running, down-the-line forehand with sidespin, which has become automatic for him; or about the running desperation slice I hit against him tonight from the back left corner of the court that slid cross-court to the opposite corner for a simply stupid winner)... But... that's groundies and rally points. Not true match play. I'm afraid I've only played one match with it because when I first got it, I tried to play a match and I just couldn't find the juice on my serve. The stringbed felt oddly dead to me then both on serve and groundies BUT, that was fresh from TW and the Tour Bite has become positively goaty in the frame ever since settling. I'm at about 9 or 10-hour mark of hitting with this Tour Bite in the 85 and it's still great, though I'm awaiting the imminent nose-dive that often comes with TB around this time. I haven't really tried to serve with this frame ever since, it's been a strictly for-fun frame for me (and dude, there is no frame that is more fun to play with because of the magical feel, maneuverable heaviness - i.e. it's a heavy frame that swings like nothing, etc.). I want to try it again in a match, though, now that I know that the initial dead/odd feeling of the Tour Bite when I first got the frame just needed some break in. I still doubt the 85 would ever be my go-to match stick when I have to win one -- for now, that's my Ace, which for me is the second-best feeling frame out there compared to the 85 and it's just so freaking consistent - I always know exactly what it's going to do and it has yet to let me down in a fight. But every time you hit with an 85, it puts a smile on your face as it's exactly what a tennis racquet is supposed to feel like. So I love having it in my bag to go to. Like someone said, it's like an anchor point for any racquetholic. Or our Fortress of Solitude. I believe, Fed, that you've demo'd the 85 so you probably know a lot of what I'm talking about. A good soft poly in the 85 - Mad Dog has Iontec in it, which to me feels amazing in there - is just awesome. Also, I think you're an open-pattern guy but even still, knowing the kind of feel and plow that you like to get out of your frames, would love it if the next time you get a demo box from TW, have them throw a Black Ace Mid in there just to check it out. It's just so sweet, very old school, very full all-graphite feel but it has enough plushness about it to where you can totally carve out the spin shots when you need to. ... Also, the 7G: another epically solid stick if you're after 6.1 95 kind of easy power (even on 70-percent swings); for me, when I ramp it up to a 100-percent kill-shot swing, the 7G occasionally overhits while the Ace more often than not clips the line or lands just inside it, so the Ace is currently my top dog because it's just about perfectly calibrated to my particular stroke. The result is that I swing out with it more than any other stick, never holding back, because I know the little guy will respond. The 85 has that same quality as well - you just don't fear letting it rip.