Did My Pro Shop Wrap The Grip Correctly?

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  1. new_tennis_player

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    Sorry, I know this is minutiae, but I'm gonna ask anyway.

    The pro shop put some thingamajiggie on top of the grip, which they called a "moisture guard."

    First of all, I don't like how it looks. It juts out from the top of the handle/grip like a spinning top so I can't grip the racquet flush with two hands. Plus, it just plain looks bad, and was applied in a less than esthetically pleasing fashion.

    Thing is they're the only pro shop in town. The "pro" there has been there for quite some time and rules over the nest. He's basically the only game in town. To put it succinctly, he's not very friendly or customer service oriented.

    I think I'll ask him to get rid of the moisture guard as he calls it and simply put some electrical tape there to hold the grip in place, as is the case for my other racquets and every other racquet I've seen.

    Did the pro shop guy simply blow the grip install? The grip has some air bubbles at the base of the racquet as well. He says he's installed thousands, but the job looks sloppy to me, or maybe I'm nitpicking, lol.
     
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  2. ReopeningWed

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    You don't want air bubbles. That's a garbage job.

    Why don't you just do it yourself though?
     
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  3. new_tennis_player

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    I'm new to the game, and thought a pro shop would get it done correctly without any issues. Apparently not.

    I examined the grip casually after the job was completed, and it looked bad. Air bubbles at the base, which are not coming out, and a weird "moisture guard" at the top sans tape, which I've never seen on any racquet before.

    The guy running the shop did the job quickly but sloppily.

    I'll go back and try to get the problem rectified. He's kind of an old grumpy dude, so I don't think he'll be happy to see the racquet again.
     
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  4. cellofaan

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    I'd like to see a picture of that moisture guard.

    If it has air bubbles then he did a very bad job. Did you pay him for it or was it free? If he did it for free, I wouldn't bother going back.
    I hope he does a better job at stringing.

    In any case, I would ask a friend or coach to teach me how to wrap a grip.
     
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  5. Mig1NC

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    How do you screw up a grip job that badly? First one I ever did had no air bubbles.

    I mean, just watch a youtube video of it or better yet watch the Tennis Warehouse instructional video of it.
     
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  6. prjacobs

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    I know we all sound flippant about something that is a real problem for you, but what you're describing sounds so idiotic, it's beyond belief. That's why were asking for pictures. Putting on a grip is so easy. Order some from TW by mail, watch their video and do it yourself. You can even practice with the old grip, just to get the feel of wrapping a new one, if you like. I promise you that you'll get it right. And tell us where you live, so we can avoid that bozo at all costs! Good luck... Sorry :(.
     
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  7. new_tennis_player

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    Yeah, this so-called pro guy is not that bright or competent. It's ironic that I went to the shop to avoid the possibility of a botched job and yet it was botched about as badly as it could get.

    I tried pressing out the air bubbles at the base with my finger and fingernail, but I couldn't get them out completely. The "moisture guard," I don't know where he came up with that idea.

    My guess is that he cut the tape length incorrectly or at the wrong angle and just used this item instead. The moisture guard itself is cut incorrectly and instead of sitting flush horizontally, it's "fitted" on at an angle, sloping downwards.

    So much fail for such an easy job.
     
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  8. new_tennis_player

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    So, you guys don't think it's a good idea to go back and ask the shop to do the job again? I wouldn't even mind them using the same tape, as long as there were no air bubbles and they used finishing tape.

    The "pro" kept unwinding the grip at several points in the job and just generally looked confused. He says he's done this thousands of times but he didn't look competent doing the work.
     
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  9. Shamgod

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    can you post a picture of the moisture guard?
     
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  10. new_tennis_player

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    I would have to get a camera. I don't have one. But I've never seen one on a racquet before. It interferes with my ability to hold the racquet with two hands.

    I don't get why he installed it or seemed to be in such a rush. There was no one playing on the courts, and the shop itself was far from busy.
     
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    Email him this thread.
     
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  12. new_tennis_player

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    I found a second pro shop in my area. Hopefully this one will be a lot better. The first one is city owned, so apparently socialism is making the tenured manager a bit stodgy. He's not quite on top of his game.
     
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  13. zapvor

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    i want to see a pic. i have never heard of it before
     
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  14. new_tennis_player

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    lol, I'll try to post one by week's end.
     
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    it just sounds so awful....i wouldnt go back there
     
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  16. new_tennis_player

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    Yeah, he knew he had blown it, but he let me walk out of the door with a botched job anyway!

    "Once you play with it, the air bubbles will come out.."

    "That's a moisture guard. I put one on yours even though you don't need it."

    He's on salary with the city or county I figure, therefore it doesn't matter whether he does a good job or not since he doesn't own the business.
     
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  17. mikeler

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    In my area, most of the cities and counties let independent contractors bid against each other to run the facility. If this is the case in your area, you may be able to complain to whatever municipality owns the facility which would hurt their chances of winning the next bid.
     
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  18. movdqa

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    It wouldn't be a bad idea to learn how to regrip a racquet yourself. It can be a little tricky the first time. Some grips come with glue and some with glue and tape. There are also different grip types and you can vary the feel and thickness depending on how much you overlap.

    I started using overgrips a long time ago because replacing an overgrip is generally easier than replacing a grip and the overgrips are cheap. Overgrips typically attach at the bottom and top and you don't have to deal with double-sided tape or glue. There is a difference in grip size of course.
     
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  19. Lefty5

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    what moisure could it possibly be guarding against? Last I checked, I don't have water streaming down my racket onto my handle or vice versa.
     
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  20. movdqa

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    Some people sweat a lot. It tends to get the grip dirty as dirt sticks more easily to it. I don't know what the guard would be for though. Could you post a picture of it? I'm curious as to what it looks like. I've never heard of this before.
     
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  21. SirSweetSpot

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    You might also want to make sure the dummy wrapped it in the correct direction...right handed or left handed depending on which you are. Lots of people are unaware of this.
     
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  22. new_tennis_player

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    I called the second tennis shop which is supposed to be good. They charge $3 for installation of the grip. The shop pro just generally sounded confused and out of it. Almost as if he were getting baked right then and there in the shop.

    The tennis shops around here suck big time.

    I guess you guys were right when you said I shop learn to wrap my own. :oops:
     
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  23. Standupnfall

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    What city are you in? And you MUST post a pic of this. I can't even see how a grip could have air bubbles in it. A grip isn't even air tight, now wrinkles I could see.

    If you bring it somewhere else make sure they take a picture of it before they remove it.

    $3 isn't a bad price to install an overgrip with the over grip included. Generally overgrips are about a dollar, but at many tennis facilities the overgrips are $2.50 or so, so $3 installed isn't that bad.
     
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  24. Tennis_Man

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    He is probably a crappy gripper. And assumes you think he's right. You could probably redo it yourself and make it suit your liking.
     
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  25. new_tennis_player

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    Update

    I called a THIRD pro shop.

    I walk up, and guess what: it's my buddy from high school!

    He wrapped the grip correctly, and we catch up on old times. What a coincidence!

    Yeah, I should've taken photos. I don't know if there were wrinkles or air bubbles, but it wasn't wrapped correctly.

    The moisture guard was put on because the finishing tape at the top of the grip was coming off.
     
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    But what was this so called "moisture Guard" ??? Tape, gauze, plastic?

    I use vinyl electrical tape on most grips because it can be cut to the right length , sticks and looks better than most included finishing tapes.
     
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  27. new_tennis_player

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    I hear what you're saying about the finishing tape. The adhesive is not quite strong enough, so there's the potential of it coming loose.

    The moisture guard is basically a rubber band type thingamajiggie which wraps tightly around the top of the grip, covering the finishing tape. It was probably put there to prevent the tape from coming loose. Why it's called a "moisture guard" I have no idea. Never seen one on another racquet.

    It's from gosen btw.
     
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    Wait its just that rubber band thing? That comes with some rackets. I keep one over the finishing tape on each racket (I have a one hander so it doesnt interfere.
     
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  29. Quarante-Amour

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    This thread is one of the reasons why I do my own work on my racquets.
     
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  30. Mansewerz

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    All people should learn how to grip a frame. My coach was embarrassed when my teammates asked me to wrap their ogs.
     
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    I use the rubber on mine also
     
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  32. struggle

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    i've seen in some other threads about people asking where to find these "moisture guards".

    next time you change your bicycle innertube (especially road bike sizes), save the old innertube and cut some "rubber bands" from it to the width of your liking.

    voila!!! "moisture guards" galore!!!

    (not sure why they would be called such, but anyhow, voila!!!!..rubber thingies for the grip!!)
     
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  33. movdqa

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    Okay, I have seen these. I bought one of these rubber sleeves and cut it in two to put on my table tennis paddle. The sweat was damaging the wood near the hitting surface. I don't know why you would need one for a graphite racquet.
     
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  34. new_tennis_player

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    Yeah, the term is probably a holdover from the days when wooden racquets were common.

    The only purpose I can see it serving nowadays is that it keeps the finishing tape in place. Also, it adds a tiny extra bit of tacky grip at the top of the grip.

    It's not a bad touch, actually. Assuming the grip was installed properly in the first place. :)

     
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