Did they screw up my string job?

Discussion in 'Strings' started by shaba230, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. shaba230

    shaba230 Guest

    Please look at this PDF, at the stringing instructions provided at the bottom right:


    She used Lightning XX 16 string.

    Here are a few photos of my racquet string job...the ties seem like they are not in the specified locations.

    ALSO (and most importantly) some of the main strings are MUCH tighter than others...what's going on there?

    The racquet is brand new and has only been used 4-5 times since stringing.



    If you want to see the full image of the racquet head:

  2. shaba230

    shaba230 Guest

    Here's what it says if you can't view the PDF:

    Pattern: 16 x 19
    Tension: 53 - 63 lbs.
    String length: 34’ (ss: 9’6”) or (19’ M’s & 15’ X’s)
    Start M’s: At throat. Mains skip 8H & 8T.
    Tie off M’s at 6T.
    If one-piece stringing: Start X’s at bottom at 8T.
    Tie off X’s at 5H.
    If two-piece stringing: Start X’s at top at 8H.
    Tie off X’s at 5H & 11T.
  3. WhatItIs

    WhatItIs Rookie

    Jun 19, 2007
    Looks like the actual string job is right. Although, it should've been a 1 piece string job since you weren't using 2 different types of strings. I don't think it really matters where you tie off knots at, as long as the knot is correct.
  4. Gmedlo

    Gmedlo Professional

    Apr 15, 2007
    P-Town, WA
    I wouldn't worry about it. The knots look decent and they are in places that would cause the last string (X or M) to lose the least amount of tension, which is probably why the stringer decided to tie off there.

    What your stringer did makes more sense to me than what wilson recommends.
  5. flash9

    flash9 Semi-Pro

    Oct 7, 2005
    Raleigh, NC
    Looks OK to me!

    I agree the string pattern is indeed correct.
    As for tie off locations, I agree with the other two posters, where they did it is a better locations.
    Though Wilson allows for throat to head stringing, structurally I do not like to do this to a frame, so if the person does not know how to do a Round-the-World pattern then the two piece string job they did is the next best thing.
  6. ChipNCharge

    ChipNCharge Professional

    Jun 28, 2004
    Green Country
    Why? Some people who use the same string for both the mains and the crosses use two piece stringing all the time (less string to pull and also ensures top-to-bottom stringing for the crosses).
  7. tbini87

    tbini87 Hall of Fame

    Jul 10, 2007
    Chico, CA
    mains are tied at 7T instead of 6T aren't they? and the crosses' starting knot should be at 5H not 7H. so i think they did the tie offs in the wrong places, even though the knots look ok. and doing a 2-piece job is fine even when using the same type string. it is the preference of the player or stringer. the only time it matters is if it is a hybrid, and then it MUST be done 2 piece.

    as far as some mains being tighter than others... it may be inconsistent stringing by the stringer. i don't know what it could be other than that. but how can you tell? just by pulling the mains and feeling a difference?
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2007
  8. nickb

    nickb Banned

    Jun 23, 2006
    Looks ok to me...knots look good...if tension feels uneven the stringer could be inconsistent.
  9. federer envies me

    federer envies me Semi-Pro

    Jul 22, 2007
    yeah it definetly looks fine
  10. psp2

    psp2 Banned

    Apr 8, 2006
    Looks like a nPro Open. My only complaint would be the wrong tie-off holes. Why the stringer tied off at 7H when there's a HUGE tie-off hole at 5H questions the experience of the stringer.
  11. vinnier6

    vinnier6 Professional

    Sep 14, 2005
    its more common to use a two piece instead of a one piece...even when using the same string...

    the string job looks fine...what are you bitc hing about
  12. tsmcauliffe

    tsmcauliffe Rookie

    Jul 17, 2007

    You can string it in two pieces like that with the same string. YOu do that so the whole string bed maintains tension longer.
  13. shaba230

    shaba230 Guest

    I am complaining because the mains at the end, and the ones next to the mains (i think thats called 7 & 8 M) are much easier to slide around so when i'm playing I'm constantly putting them back into place. And for some reason the 3M seems SUPER tough to move around so when it gets moved from a ball with a lot of top spin it tears apart the skin on my fingertips to get it back into place.

    So I didn't know if this was all because she didn't tie off in the right spots and hence it didn't give all the strings a consistant tension. That's why I'm "bitc hing".
  14. diredesire

    diredesire Super Moderator

    Mar 16, 2004
    It's not great, but this is normal. It's debatable whether or not loose outside mains make a difference. Sounds like your stringer has questionable knot tying technique, but that is a whole 'nother story. If the tie off holes are as close as possible to the exit hole of the last main, it's a better-than-not method.
  15. Steve Huff

    Steve Huff Legend

    Feb 11, 2004
    The last mains lose tension due to the tie-offs. It doesn't matter WHERE they are tied off, they are going to lose some tension. A lot of stringers, including myself, add 4-5# of tension on any tie-off. Another reason they move more easily is that there's less resistance, especially on the last main. There's no "next" string on the outside to help lock it in place. You'll find that the bottom cross and top cross are more easily moved than the other crosses too. Although I use the recommended holes for tying off, none of these will hurt the racket and are not the cause of any worry--other than someone trying to get a free stringjob or something.
  16. shaba230

    shaba230 Guest

    I appreciate the implication that I would want my racquet restrung after just using it 4 times...But I do have enough sense to know it's not only pointless if it's not needed but it's wear on my racquet.

    I wish people would use their heads sometimes before they type.


    Thank you for confirming that the tie locations are negligible and it was a good string job.
  17. uk_skippy

    uk_skippy Hall of Fame

    Feb 22, 2004
    Waterlooville, Hampshire, UK
    The stringer obviously hasn't used the ones as stated in the stringing pattern, but he has considered which are the best alternatives. I'd probably use the same holes. I think these considerations are of an experienced stringer.


  18. Gaines Hillix

    Gaines Hillix Hall of Fame

    Feb 11, 2004
    I agree with Steve here....my issue with using other holes to tie-off on is that the bg and grommet sets are designed with enlarged holes for the
    specified tie-offs. You have to use an awl, maybe some heat and a lot of lube to stretch out a regular grommet hole to get two strings through it. This causes stress on that hole and can lead to premature splitting of the grommet tube. If that happens, the string can contact the frame and cut the string. You can use a grommet grinder and cut that tube out and replace it with a larger one to avoid this, but I don't think that's what she did.
  19. diredesire

    diredesire Super Moderator

    Mar 16, 2004
    GAINES! welcome back, i hope your "stay" is an extended one ;)
  20. Valjean

    Valjean Hall of Fame

    Mar 17, 2004
    North Carolina
    Except it really isn't so difficult and risky to enlarge a grommet to accommodate two strings using an awl; I've done so successfully many, many times relying just on stringer's wax to help the awl through. The main problem, I've found, isn't likely to be the plastic grommet itself, but working with the first string already in, an avoidable mishap...
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2007
  21. Steve Huff

    Steve Huff Legend

    Feb 11, 2004
    Gaines, you made my day.

    Shaba, I didn't mean YOU in particular (unless it fit). I mean people, in general, complain about little things that don't affect have any affect on performance often to get something free. In tennis, it could be a free stringjob.

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