Did USTA essentially double the cost of League Play?

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  1. FlyingBoat

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    I was on a couple of USTA leagues last year that started in late fall and went through Spring.

    This year they have two shorter seasons instead, one ending in December and the other starting in January.

    Doesn't this mean I need to join two different teams for the same amount of playing time as last year? Which means it doubles my league joining fees?
     
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  2. SweetH2O

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    Are they charging the same for each mini-season as they did for the extended season?
     
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  3. FlyingBoat

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    It is the same as I recall. That is why I am asking the question. I don't know the answer! They want $27/player for the mini session. I believe that is what I paid last year. I certainly don't recall paying $54 a piece for my wife and I.
     
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  4. jmverdugo

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    wow! we pay $15 per league and a complete season, maybe is the new +40 thing?
     
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  5. JLyon

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    Are the USTA forcing you to play both leagues? If not then they are not doubling leagues, more so it is your local district that sets the local leagues, not USTA, have a chat with your local coordinator.
     
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  6. Cindysphinx

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    Our registration fee for the fall season is $101. Of that, $68 pays for the first four matches.

    That means USTA is sucking up $33 in administrative fees.

    I find that unacceptable. It is common here for teams to be large, so players usually join multiple teams. I am doing four teams, so i have to pay $120 in admin fees before i even strike a tennis ball.
     
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  7. FlyingBoat

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    I just sent a note to local coordinator as was suggested. Person is out for a few days.

    I don't believe they are forcing to join both leagues. It is doubling league fees if now you need to pay twice for same amount of time. Or if you want to look at it another way, they are cutting the time in half, and therefore doubling the cost per match.

    Again, I am just asking the question here. I don't know if I am understanding it right. I am in the Northern section.

    We do pay $15 for a short, 4 match Fall session that started this week.
     
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  8. SweetH2O

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    How long are your seasons? We pay $17-$22 for each of our seasons, which are 7 regular season matches plus playoffs. That does not include court fees, which are handled separately by each team. So I see it as our ~$20 league fee is all admin fees, but our seasons here are much shorter than yours if I remember correctly.
     
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  9. floridatennisdude

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    Wow, I am assuming that the $68 is court fees and must be indoor time. That is a lot if it is outdoors. Indoor, it's probably convenient that they have you pay in advance.

    I'd be surprised if the USTA gets more than a $3 tennis link fee. Your local coordinator is probably getting the majority of the $33. If they are the ones booking all the court times in a large league, I guess it would justify paying that much.

    We pay $20 to enter a league. 8-9 weeks. The home team is responsible for court fees/guest fees. At a public court, that is $4-6 per match. My club is a $5 guest fee per guest. My max exposure is around $60 per league. Our captains are responsible for booking court time. If they do their job, it isn't a big deal since most places only let general play book a week in advance. The captains book the whole season in advance after the coordinator releases the schedule. They can change a match day/time if their home courts have something else (tournament, etc) already planned.
     
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  10. Cindysphinx

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    $7 or $8 is the Tennislink fee.

    The season is long. Usually it is 12 weeks and about 12 matches,but it can be 15. Yes, the matches are indoors.

    The league handles all administration, so captains only have to get their players to whatever matches the league schedules.

    Still . . . It puts a lot of pressure on me as captain to put weaker players in the lineup because they paid so much to be on the team.
     
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  11. floridatennisdude

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    Ooohh, yea. I bet people get pissy if they only play 2 or 3 matches after putting up 100 bucks. That's a tuffy.
     
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  12. TENNIS4FUN2

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    In my area we pay approx. $22 to register for leagues that have playoffs. For fun leagues, it is usually less. A league coordinator told me most of the money for fun leagues goes back to the local league, therefore they use the money to support junior tennis.

    I have read elsewhere in this thread that the majority of the USTA's income is from the US Open.
     
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  13. FlyingBoat

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    Just found out I missed the part that this year our league is playing every week instead of every other week like last year. So it comes out the same.

    It does really stink that each member of a team needs to pay to be on each team. Other leagues I am in there is a single team cost which is split among the players.

    I guess they need a way to pay their executive's millions of dollars in bonuses. US Open costs come out of our pocket too, if we attend it, which I have many years ago.
     
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  14. Angle Queen

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    Really? The only number I've ever seen associated with tennislink is $3 albeit it's never "refundable." In the grander scheme, I don't so much mind a $3 database fee -- it's why I'll only complain but so much (ok, a lot)...but it's still, rather reasonable.

    No, the fee that kills me is USTA/Virginia's $18 per player per signup (then there's the USTA/MAS $4.75, tennislink $3...and whatever your local league tacks on). Ridiculous. We are fortunate in that "court" fees rarely come into play (only for reschedules from a designated "outdoor" league that decides to play indoors, and even then, only for a few clubs). But still. If they really want to GROW the game, they need to SHRINK the fees.

    The one non-USTA league I also play in has a facility fee (relatively nominal...a few hundred dollars) and then a team fee which is divided by the number of players you have. I'm on a relatively "lean" team (which is fewer players rather than more)...and the most I've paid for two 7-week seasons (one in the fall, another the following spring in a home-and-home kinda thing)....is $15 which includes balls! We have by-laws, an online scoring mechanism and a relegation-style of advancement/demotion. And the food spread by the home team...is often something to behold. Now that's how it oughta be done. I'd love the opportunity to play in ALTA as it sounds quite similar.

    Not to say that our non-USTA league doesn't have a few problems or some gamesmanship along the way...but I find it infinitely more enjoyable than USTA stuff...especially recently.
     
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  15. Cindysphinx

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    No really. The tennislink fee went up. I think it was when they redisigned the web site.

    "a non-refundable TennisLink fee of $7.57; 
    a Mid-Atlantic Section fee of $4.75;
    a Maryland District fee of $9.00;
    an MCTA administrative fee of $12.50; and,
    $68.00 as pre-paid court fees for four matches ($17 per match)."

    I can see why we need the MCTA fee -- they handle all the scheduling and admin for the matches we get to play.

    I do not understand what benefit i get from, say, MD district or md-atlantic that justifies these fees.
     
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  16. OrangePower

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    Here in NorCal the cost for joining a team for a season is $25... $22 roster fee (refundable if removed from roster) + $3 admin fee (non-refundable).

    I usually just play on a single adult team per year and occassionally a combo team also, so not too bad... $25 or $50 per year plus USTA membership.

    But I know people who play on several adult teams, plus a couple of combo teams, plus a few mixed teams, plus seniors... one guy I know played on *14* teams during the course of last year... that really adds up ($350).
     
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  17. OrangePower

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    I feel the same way about the new 40+ league starting next year, especially the way it is going to work here in NorCal. I'm going to start another thread about that rather than derail this one, but it does seem that USTA is set on increasing the number of roster sign-ups... I guess overall it's a good thing and will lead to more playing opportunities, but the flip side is that we are going to get marginally decreasing bang for the buck as these leagues proliferate.
     
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