did you watch any of the Miami masters with no Fedal?

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  1. zam88

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    Normally i'd be pumped about the Indian Wells/Miami combo because they are in the states and thus are easy to watch.

    But with Federer donking out early in Cali and not playing in Miami, I haven't watched much at all.

    I have kept up with the results, i know what's going on.... but i'm not watching.

    I wonder how TV ratings have been for these touranments with no decent Americans playing, no federer, djokavic getting bounced early.. no nadal or fed in Miami.

    I like tennis and i'm not watching.. this doesn't bode well for the sport if you ask me.. at least in America..
     
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  2. TTMR

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    Are you one of the people that complain that the courts have been slowed down to ensure that the top players always make it to the end and that there are too few upsets?
     
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  3. フェデラー

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    I watched for the queen Serena.
     
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  4. Talker

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    I watched Del Potro's first match.
    Saw Djokovic get nailed.
    A few others, pretty good.
     
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    This year I watched it more than last year. Good tennis is always a pleasure to see no matter who is playing.
     
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  6. corners

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    I missed Fedal, but the fine play of Haas and Gasquet made the tournament pretty interesting. I wish the surface were faster, however, as even though both those guys were playing fantastic attacking tennis, once they ran into elite defenders they were basically doomed. On grass or on Cincy's courts I think we would have a Haas v Gasquet final, which would have been more interesting, to me, than tomorrows grindfest. But I prefer attacking all-court play. Not everyone does.
     
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  7. jrs

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    I watched it there were some pretty good matches. Will you be giving up watching tennis after Federer and Nadal retires - you know they both probably stop playing in the next 10 years.
     
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  8. Relinquis

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    You guys missed out on some great tennis...
    • Haas Vs. Novak was good. A rare demonstration of the advantage of all court tennis in difficult conditions.
    • Gasquet Vs. Murray. That first set was played at such a high level by both players. a delight. worth checking out.
    • Cilic Vs. Tsonga. Aggressive tennis for the most part.
    • Almagro Vs. Gasquet was good. a lot of free ball striking by both players and a demonstration of Richard's new found mental toughness.
    • Ferrer Vs. Melzer... Top level athleticism vs. a natural talent. So much fun.
    Lots of good tennis despite no Federer or Nadal. Did miss them a bit though. Hopefully we'll see the other guys pick up the slack. Dimitrov showed flashes of his potential and some of teh older guys have been showing us the depth of their talent and experience.

    Ferrer, Haas, Melzer, etc... the 30s club is pretty solid these days.
     
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  9. The Bawss

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    I didn't watch any of the matches Gasquet wasn't involved in but more to avoid seeing Murray play than because Fedal wasn't playing.
     
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    What are you talking about? Novak played one of the worst matches of his career with 7 winners and 30 UEs.

    It was entertaining for Djokovic haters, but the tennis was awful.
     
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    I'm a tennis fan. The absence of two players doesn't diminish my interest in the sport.
     
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    I watched it and saw some great tennis by Haas, Gasquet, and Serena of course. Murray has been good, but quite frankly, given that this is his home turf, it's nice to "so far" not see him choke.
     
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  13. Relinquis

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    No. winners/UEs are results not causes.

    there were two players on court that day. Haas played a solid game. Haas wasn't allowing Djokovic do play his usual grinding game. that meant that novak had to make low % shots in difficult conditions = errors. that's an advantage of all court tennis in the wind.

    Good analysis here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqnkLJ9BtM

    P.S. I'm not a novak hater.
     
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  14. Steve0904

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    I didn't watch as much as normal perhaps, but I loved Haas's Miami run. Was glued to the TV for his last 3 matches. Watched a lot of IW. Did not see Delpo upset Djoko but watched the final.
     
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  15. Elite

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    Yes, of course. Just because Nadal and Federer didn't participate doesn't make it any less watchable.
     
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  16. Steve0904

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    Yes it does, but you deal with it because there will be a time when neither of them are around.
     
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    There's more to tennis (to me) than Nadal and Federer. Of course I'd love to see them in action at Miami, but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of the tournament any less.
     
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    I understand what you're saying but the truth is when the tournament is missing the 2 most popular players it does in fact make it less watchable. It's certainly not more watchable unless you hate both of them.
     
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    ^^On the contrary, it was a breath of fresh air to see Haas and Gasquet in the SF.
     
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    I agree, but I'm pretty sure the casual fan doesn't.
     
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    Watched the semis, and some more.

    Great to see Haas and Gasquet playing so well. Gasquet vs. Almagro was quite awesome.

    That having some of the very best players in the history of the game playing makes someone more interested in a tournament doesn't mean at all that they're any less fans of tennis, btw.
     
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  22. Clarky21

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    Agreed. Wanting to see your favorite player doesn't mean you don't care about the tennis. Tennis needs players that draw fans. That's just the way it is.

    And I didn't watch much of this tournament. I watched a little here and there but had no interest in it beyond that.
     
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  23. Elite

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    But instead of seeing Nadal and Federer lurking around deep in the tournament, we have Gasquet, Haas, etc. It's refreshing to see for tennis viewers who actually look beyond the superficialities of the sport.
     
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    Is the OP serious?
     
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  25. *Sparkle*

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    I think it made the draw more exciting, and less predictable. We've still ended up with 2 top 5 players in the final, but it wasn't certain. More to the point, neither Federer nor Nadal managed to get to last year's final.

    I don't pay close attention to every tournament, because it's just too tiring, but if you were pointedly not watching Miami because of no Fedal, you've missed out.

    Fedal fans presumably love all of the attention they get when they are playing, but for more general tennis fans, or fans of other players, it can get a bit tiresome. It's refreshing to see attention on other players and to see it extend beyond the Big Four. Haas's victory over Djokovic wouldn't have got half as much attention, and the attention it did get would have been about Djokovic going out and leaving the route clear for whoever he was supposed to meet in the semis.
     
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  26. zam88

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    no i am not
     
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  27. zam88

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    yeah i think there is a decent shot that when fed goes i go until a top american male emerges
     
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    will be a long wait...
     
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    I didn't watch as much, but mainly because I'm very busy. Happened to see Haas beat Novak, which was a treat. Saw the final.

    Missed Federer playing for sure.
     
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  30. sportsfan1

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    Haas's run made it more interesting. I can watch any match (I watched Simon vs Benoit paire at IW), but players with 1hbh make it more interesting for me.
     
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