difference when stringing mains looser and crosses tighter? And racket question

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  1. Francis27

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    Question 1. What is the difference/advantages of stringing the mains tighter/looser than the crosses?

    Question 2. I currently have the Head youtek IG instinct and the shape of my racket looks pretty odd compared to the other instincts. What i mean about that is the top of my racket is pointy(not to pointy but it should be more rounded) its not the racket thats making this happen its stringing cause i believe i strung it a little too tight. If i string the mains tighter will it become more rounded on the top of the head or more pointier? Or do i have to string the cross tighter?

    Heres a picture of the racket. its not mine but im just showing you guys so you know how it looks

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    Please answer both thank you!
     
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    Q1 - some use different tensions between the mains/crosses in order to achieve a consistent stringbed stiffness (SBS). For example, in a poly/syn gut hybrid, many will string the softer string (syn gut) a few to several pounds tighter than the mains. In a gut/poly hybrid you'd do the opposite - mains tighter than the crosses.

    Then there are those who believe stringing the crosses several pounds looser than the mains yields a larger sweetspot. In truth, there are three sweetspots on a racquet, and my personal opinion is that the size of the sweetspots are determined by the racquet head design/shape/size. I will say that it stands to reason that varying the tension in the crosses probably results in a change to the aforementioned areas, but given a 2 to 4 pound difference in tension I think the results are negligible. Again, that's just my opinion.

    Q2 - Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe head racquets are prone to slight distortion, a rounding/elongating of the head if you will, after stringing. It's not warping, and to my knowledge it doesn't damage the racquet, it's just a characteristic of that particular brand.
     
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  5. Irvin

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    All rackets are stretched, compacted, bent, twisted, and generally distorted in the stringing process. Some more than others dependent on the tension, racket, pattern, and stringing machine. Try to string the racket with a symmetrical pattern that results in the same racket length for a strung and unstrung racket.

    For instance many people use a Klippermate string which is known to have support posts that slip when you start tensioning the center mains. Some times you end up with as much as .25 - .5" shorter racket after it is strung. That means your head will end up rounder (or wider.)
     
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    What do you mean, the support posts slip? The posts are secured to the base with double clamps.
     
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    I don't know how or why I don't own one but I have heard on this forum they move. Maybe they are not set right to begin with. Maybe the supports should be pulled outward from the borttom as they are tightened. Don't know.
     
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    FWIW, I previously used a Klippermate for over 5 years and tested for this post-stringing shortening effect a few times and never found it to have occurred.
     
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    True, but isn't it also true that Head racquets have a definitive history of 'rounding out' more so after the stringing process compared to other racquets? Maybe I'm misremembering or getting one brand confused with another.
     
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    I have heard that. I have not experienced that. I think all lighter flexible rackets give more than heavier stiffer rackets not just Head rackets.

    EDIT: Let me give you an example. Not long ago I did some testing where I strung the mains only in a tennis racket and plucked like numbered mains on each side of the racket and compared the vibration frequency. For example, I compared 1RM to 1LM, and 2 RM to 2LM, and so on. I did not tie knots but held both ends with starting clamps.

    When I strung 3 mains on the right, then 6 on the left, then finished the right, and finished the right I had a larger vibration variation than if I never got more than 1 string ahead on either side. I think it is because there is more racket distortion when you get 3 mains ahead as compared to only 1.
     
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  11. Francis27

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    thanks guys for your help! but if i string the mains tighter would it make the racket rounder and the top of the head wont be pointy?
     
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    Well all of my head racquets (3 of them) exhibit some frame rounding if I'm not too careful. I have to string my crosses at least 2 lbs tighter than my mains... that usually keeps the shape more natural.
     
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    It shouldn't. The stringing machinenshouldhold the shape of your racket and stringing the mains or crosses at different tension should not change the shape of your racket unless there is a really big difference.
     
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  14. Francis27

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    Thank you Irvin and this may be out topiced but im using the BLack rpm team would a white stencil ink be more visible than a silver ink? :confused:
     
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    White but go with the one you like best
     
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